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metroid composite
09/16/18 7:27:49 AM
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I think part of the point of those proposals, which I agree seem unreasonable, was that people don't accept laws governing the male body. I don't think she was really seriously proposing them as real solutions.

(Those proposals seem invasive and harsh...but then there's a lot of laws currently on the books governing women's bodies that ARE invasive and harsh).

It's also...the point she was driving home was that people don't really care about stopping abortions. Take the option of "vasectomy when they come of age, and undo the vasectomy when they are ready for planned kids" proposal. Yeah, this would prevent basically every abortion. Assuming conservatives decided to be equal opportunity in terms of their invasive laws, would they be happy with the outcome of such a law? I doubt it, because under that system women could have as much sex as they wanted without punishment. And conservatives WANT to punish promiscuous women. (Much the same reason restricting access to birth control pills and teaching kids abstinence only education makes zero sense if you want to prevent abortion; both these policies obviously increase abortions).

ChaosTonyV4 posted...
A lot of the worst side effects from birth control are just extreme versions of what can already happen during a regular menses cycle, and for a lot of women, birth control has good side effects like completely stopping it.


Mmm...I never took birth control myself, but it really messed with my mom when she took it, and really messed with my one sister who took it. My general experience with the pill within my family is that it fucked people up bad.

(I haven't heard complaints about IUDs mind you, although the one person I knew IRL who used an IUD and talked about it was a trans man who literally wanted to stop his period so...).
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