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Zeus posted...

The other problem with these allegations is that they supposedly occurred when he was a minor, which raises a plethora of issues from the fact that people change to the greater legal protections minors receive because the system recognizes that minors aren't fully culpable for their actions and change over time.

In most cases, applications can be made for minors to be charged as adults.

But you're missing the point - no one is talking about Kavanaugh being charged with anything. This isn't about whether Kavanaugh is legally culpable for his actions; it's about whether he, as a 17 year old, committed the action he is being accused of (groping and attempting to forcibly strip an underage girl) and whether that should be sufficient grounds to deny him appointment to the Supreme Court.

His legal status at the time has absolutely no bearing on rendering that judgement.

Zeus posted...

That's not counting that memory can be highly unreliable over long spans of time.

Of course it can. That's why all the Democrats - and why the accuser herself - are calling for the FBI to investigate and for additional witnesses to be called. After all, if there was a party that she and/or Kavanaugh attended, an investigation would be able to identify potential corroborating witnesses and confirm date and/or time (Kavanaugh has alleged that not only did the incident not occur, but that he never attended a party like the one his accuser describes, which should be easy enough to confirm or disprove - if no one can place him at any party in the area, the allegations look a lot more unlikely). It's crazy that the Republicans are insisting that this woman must not be remembering things correctly while refusing to ask the FBI to confirm that, yes, she really was mistaken.

I'll ask the same question of you I asked of the TC - are you OK with people accusing Catholic priests of molesting them as children, or are you similarly leery about that? Because those allegations are also frequently decades old and the memories of then-children are even more unreliable than adults. If you're supportive of the people making those allegations, this shouldn't be any different, unless your motives are political in nature.

Zeus posted...

We live in an age where baseless accusations routinely result in significant hardship for men

So let's see a few examples. Better yet, let's see some analysis that this is a widespread problem, because we have plenty of evidence that the inverse - that high-profile men have gotten away with sexual abuse for years and not been called to task for it - is a major problem, but I've yet to see any analysis suggesting that women are, en masse, falsely accusing men of sexual assault purely for their own gain.
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