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Topic	Making sexual harassment claims that are over 30 years old.
darkknight109 09/21/18 4:16:22 PM #68:	GreenKnight127 posted... How do you investigate something that happened 35 years ago? By talking to people. Shit like this happens all the time. Ever heard of cold cases? GreenKnight127 posted... What would they "investigate" exactly? Where exactly was this party and when? Who was there? Did anyone happen to take photos? Was Kavanaugh there and was he drunk? Did he say anything about Ford? Was Ford there? Did she say anything? When did she leave and under what circumstances? Note that, as part of this, the FBI would also be investigating Ford and her circumstances as well. Is this a legitimate accusation? Has she shown any particular animus towards Kavanaugh and/or conservatives in general? Was she paid or compensated for doing this? Does she have a history of lying? Remember, the investigation is simply to discern the truth, which is something everyone should be getting behind (but Republicans aren't, because their political motives demand expediency over accuracy). Kavanaugh has said he never attended a party like that - if someone can put him at one, that already throws his defence into doubt. GreenKnight127 posted... This was some girl at a party with multiple people (from what I've read) and multiple guys got a little handsy with her and may or may not have tried pulling her swimsuit off, but nothing happened beyond that. Not quite. Kavanaugh was the only one "getting handsy" (which is a nice way to say he groped her, grinded against her, and tried to forcibly pull her swimsuit off), although Mark Judge was supposedly there as well and witnessed the whole thing (eventually intervening and knocking Kavanaugh off of Ford, though it isn't clear whether he did that on her behalf or because he was roughhousing). As for nothing happening beyond that, Ford tried to scream for help and Kavanaugh pushed his hand over her mouth to try and silence her, to the point where she was worried he would inadvertently kill her by smothering her. GreenKnight127 posted... But then it would change to only being Kavanaugh. And then it was 4 boys and Kavanaugh might have been there. Then it was multiple boys but Kavanaugh was the ring leader. Then it's just Horseplay. Then it was at McDonalds and they were actually just getting drunk and ordering hamburgers late at night. And then Elvis was there. How fucking terrible is your memory if this is how much you remember things that happened in your life? Picking a random party I attended as a teenager, several decades past now, I can recall most of the people who were there. If someone asked me if Will was there, I can say emphatically yes. If someone asked me if Karin was there, I can say emphatically no. I can't remember the date, but I do know that it was a birthday party for a specific person, so all investigators would need to do in my case is look up when said birthday was. GreenKnight127 posted... The closest thing to an "investigation" the FBI could even attempt to do, is go through her yearbook and track down everyone in her class and interview them, asking if they remember a party where things might have gotten out of hand. Ask about Kavanaugh's character, etc. Exactly. This would all be pretty useful info to have. GreenKnight127 posted... Which is still nothing concrete, because we are talking about people who were teenagers at the time, who are all in their 50's now, probably with grandkids, who are totally different people. What difference does that make? Are 50 year olds not allowed to tell the truth or something? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909195643] in Making sex... [t:77020198]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>How do you investigate something that happened 35 years ago?</quote> By talking to people. Shit like this happens all the time. Ever heard of cold cases? <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>What would they "investigate" exactly?</quote> Where exactly was this party and when? Who was there? Did anyone happen to take photos? Was Kavanaugh there and was he drunk? Did he say anything about Ford? Was Ford there? Did she say anything? When did she leave and under what circumstances? Note that, as part of this, the FBI would also be investigating Ford and her circumstances as well. Is this a legitimate accusation? Has she shown any particular animus towards Kavanaugh and/or conservatives in general? Was she paid or compensated for doing this? Does she have a history of lying? Remember, the investigation is simply to discern the truth, which is something everyone should be getting behind (but Republicans aren't, because their political motives demand expediency over accuracy). Kavanaugh has said he never attended a party like that - if someone can put him at one, that already throws his defence into doubt. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>This was some girl at a party with multiple people (from what I've read) and multiple guys got a little handsy with her and may or may not have tried pulling her swimsuit off, but nothing happened beyond that.</quote> Not quite. Kavanaugh was the only one "getting handsy" (which is a nice way to say he groped her, grinded against her, and tried to forcibly pull her swimsuit off), although Mark Judge was supposedly there as well and witnessed the whole thing (eventually intervening and knocking Kavanaugh off of Ford, though it isn't clear whether he did that on her behalf or because he was roughhousing). As for nothing happening beyond that, Ford tried to scream for help and Kavanaugh pushed his hand over her mouth to try and silence her, to the point where she was worried he would inadvertently kill her by smothering her. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>But then it would change to only being Kavanaugh. And then it was 4 boys and Kavanaugh might have been there. Then it was multiple boys but Kavanaugh was the ring leader. Then it's just Horseplay. Then it was at McDonalds and they were actually just getting drunk and ordering hamburgers late at night. And then Elvis was there. </quote> How fucking terrible is your memory if this is how much you remember things that happened in your life? Picking a random party I attended as a teenager, several decades past now, I can recall most of the people who were there. If someone asked me if Will was there, I can say emphatically yes. If someone asked me if Karin was there, I can say emphatically no. I can't remember the date, but I do know that it was a birthday party for a specific person, so all investigators would need to do in my case is look up when said birthday was. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The closest thing to an "investigation" the FBI could even attempt to do, is go through her yearbook and track down everyone in her class and interview them, asking if they remember a party where things might have gotten out of hand. Ask about Kavanaugh's character, etc. </quote> Exactly. This would all be pretty useful info to have. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Which is still nothing concrete, because we are talking about people who were teenagers at the time, who are all in their 50's now, probably with grandkids, who are totally different people.</quote> What difference does that make? Are 50 year olds not allowed to tell the truth or something? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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