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Topic	Making sexual harassment claims that are over 30 years old.
darkknight109 09/25/18 6:28:43 PM #130:	Revelation34 posted... Nope it is. Alright, well, you're the one who believes in pink dragons, I guess... GreenKnight127 posted... But your example is you making a negative claim. We've been over this. You can't prove a negative. Sure, and I've already addressed this - Kavanaugh doesn't have to "prove" beyond all reasonable doubt that he didn't do what he's accused of, because that standard isn't in play here. He just has to satisfy the senators tasked with confirming him (and the people they represent) that he is fit for the Supreme Court and that the accusations against him have no merit. Again, you can look at it like I've phrased it elsewhere in this thread - Kavanaugh isn't on trial, he is applying for a job. He is staking a claim here, and that claim is "I am fit to serve on the Supreme Court". He must prove that claim, and that may involve addressing counter-claims with his own testimony and/or evidence. GreenKnight127 posted... It is the accuser and/or investigative team to prove that the person DID do something. Which is exactly why people are asking for the FBI to get involved - so that they can gather facts and help verify what did or did not happen. The fact that Republicans and Kavanaugh himself don't seem to want that to happen is concerning, to say the least. (As a sidebar, the accuser is seldom ever tasked with proving the veracity of their accusations; that's for an independent party, typically an investigator, to handle. Evidence gathered by an accuser is usually seen as inadmissible because of their significant conflict of interest. This is exactly why cops aren't allowed to investigate allegations against other cops and a special taskforce handles it instead). GreenKnight127 posted... The rules are changing. And our shitty society IS, sadly, getting to the point where all men are seen as guilty until proven innocent, among many other negative claims. According to a growing number of idiots (with a lot of promotion from the mainstream media), all men are seen as sexist, racist, and homophobic until they can prove otherwise. It is a truly volatile time to be a man in America. Just gonna say, I'm a man, straight as an arrow and white as the arctic snow and I can safely say I've never been accused of - or even felt like I was being seen as - sexist, racist, or homophobic in any capacity. Just be nice to people - it's worked for me. Also, for what it's worth, Kavanaugh isn't being accused of being sexist, he's being accused of sexual assault. There's a big, big difference between those two things. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909440170] in Making sex... [t:77020198]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Nope it is.</quote> Alright, well, you're the one who believes in pink dragons, I guess... <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>But your example is you making a negative claim. We've been over this. You can't prove a negative. </quote> Sure, and I've already addressed this - Kavanaugh doesn't have to "prove" beyond all reasonable doubt that he didn't do what he's accused of, because that standard isn't in play here. He just has to satisfy the senators tasked with confirming him (and the people they represent) that he is fit for the Supreme Court and that the accusations against him have no merit. Again, you can look at it like I've phrased it elsewhere in this thread - Kavanaugh isn't on trial, he is applying for a job. He is staking a claim here, and that claim is "I am fit to serve on the Supreme Court". He must prove that claim, and that may involve addressing counter-claims with his own testimony and/or evidence. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>It is the accuser and/or investigative team to prove that the person DID do something.</quote> Which is exactly why people are asking for the FBI to get involved - so that they can gather facts and help verify what did or did not happen. The fact that Republicans and Kavanaugh himself don't seem to want that to happen is concerning, to say the least. (As a sidebar, the accuser is seldom ever tasked with proving the veracity of their accusations; that's for an independent party, typically an investigator, to handle. Evidence gathered by an accuser is usually seen as inadmissible because of their significant conflict of interest. This is exactly why cops aren't allowed to investigate allegations against other cops and a special taskforce handles it instead). <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The rules are changing. And our shitty society IS, sadly, getting to the point where all men are seen as guilty until proven innocent, among many other negative claims. According to a growing number of idiots (with a lot of promotion from the mainstream media), all men are seen as sexist, racist, and homophobic until they can prove otherwise. It is a truly volatile time to be a man in America. </quote> Just gonna say, I'm a man, straight as an arrow and white as the arctic snow and I can safely say I've never been accused of - or even felt like I was being seen as - sexist, racist, or homophobic in any capacity. Just be nice to people - it's worked for me. Also, for what it's worth, Kavanaugh isn't being accused of being sexist, he's being accused of sexual assault. There's a big, big difference between those two things. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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