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XIII_rocks posted...

Second: I never said I'm using Brie's botches to hate on Nikki. I hate on Nikki regardless. I'm annoyed by the shift in discourse towards the idea that Nikki is good, so if this is a catalyst to shift discussion back towards a more anti-Bella vibe, then let's do it.

I see it as more of a starting point, a catalyst, like I said. Because the inevitable counter to Nikki hate here would be "you shouldn't blame Nikki for Brie's botches" (as immediately happened in this topic), you then see people get into more specific discussions about Nikki's ability beyond her sister's botches. People who were previously ambivalent about the subject are now bedded in to the discussion, making anti-Bella points, influencing people and shifting the discourse, where previously they wouldn't be (or would be doing so far less). That "irrational" catalyst morphs into rational discussion.

I'm guilty of allowing the discourse to shift as well. I never really cared enough to dispute Lopen's assertions that Nikki was good; I read them and scoffed or shook my head and moved on. You sometimes need a catalyst to get people into a discussion like that, even if the catalyst is a bit nonsensical or irrational. I want this to be that catalyst. Let's use these incidents as a springboard to get talking about how bad the Bellas, both Bellas, truly are, and how bad it truly is that they are once again being heavily pushed and promoted.

How is this not "I want this unrelated incident from a completely different person to morph into talking about how somebody else is bad" and how is this not an irrational response? You're basically a vulture looking to pick pieces off of a carcass that nobody actually cares about. Nobody's sitting here arguing Nikki is a great wrestler, or even that good of one. A few of us said she's fine/solid/whatever, and that somehow threw you onto this tangent. You're not okay with people not thinking she's a horrible plight on WWE, and so you hope a botch by Brie somehow gets people saying "See? Nikki sucks!"

That. Is. Irrational.

And it's why people are mocking you.
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