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Topic	Let me talk about Umineko 2!!! still continue to not spoil me!!
MariaTaylor 10/07/18 8:23:12 PM #79:	Tom Bombadil posted... man I just like her because she's a good heel this kinda goes along with what I'm getting at ryuukishi wanted to deconstruct the mystery genre but he didn't have any particular argument for why the standard rules were bad other than the fact that he didn't like them. so instead he just makes erika this stawman who is supposed to make people agree with him simply by making them hate erika. - condescending intellectual - makes a little girl cry for no reason - people hate mary sues right? sure, let's make her a mary sue - what you still don't hate her? fine, she throws temper tantrums like a little brat when she doesn't get her way - see the detective is just a giant asshole who only cares about the mystery! obviously the story I'm trying to tell is better than that! meanwhile half the audience is going 'oh cool an entertaining heel,' 'I like her hat,' or 'wow finally someone is going to solve the mystery.' literally. despite all of that, fans are still happy about the fact and excited that someone showed up who might solve the mystery. it cracks me up that he failed so hard at doing what he set out to do with Erika. no matter how much you try to make us hate her it's NEVER going to change the fact that we naturally crave a real solution to the mystery. I probably won't get too much more into it just because this isn't my topic, but yeah, that's the sum of my thoughts. GANON1025 posted... Also, I have zero investment in what Beatrice is doing in this game. Like this whole thing about protecting Natsuhi and moving the corpses. Like I understand this is obfuscating the real culprit moving the bodies, but beyond that I can't say I really care about piece Beatrice's reasons here. assuming beatrice isn't real, what do you think these fantasy actions represent? --- ~* Now I only see your dull imposter ~* https://imgur.com/tdhOSKc <cite>MariaTaylor posted [p:910140125] in Let me tal... [t:77051215]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>man I just like her because she's a good heel</quote> this kinda goes along with what I'm getting at ryuukishi wanted to deconstruct the mystery genre but he didn't have any particular argument for why the standard rules were bad other than the fact that he didn't like them. so instead he just makes erika this stawman who is supposed to make people agree with him simply by making them hate erika. - condescending intellectual - makes a little girl cry for no reason - people hate mary sues right? sure, let's make her a mary sue - what you still don't hate her? fine, she throws temper tantrums like a little brat when she doesn't get her way - see the detective is just a giant asshole who only cares about the mystery! obviously the story I'm trying to tell is better than that! meanwhile half the audience is going 'oh cool an entertaining heel,' 'I like her hat,' or 'wow finally someone is going to solve the mystery.' literally. despite all of that, fans are still happy about the fact and excited that someone showed up who might solve the mystery. it cracks me up that he failed so hard at doing what he set out to do with Erika. no matter how much you try to make us hate her it's NEVER going to change the fact that we naturally crave a real solution to the mystery. I probably won't get too much more into it just because this isn't my topic, but yeah, that's the sum of my thoughts. <cite>GANON1025 posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I have zero investment in what Beatrice is doing in this game. Like this whole thing about protecting Natsuhi and moving the corpses. Like I understand this is obfuscating the real culprit moving the bodies, but beyond that I can't say I really care about piece Beatrice's reasons here. </quote> assuming beatrice isn't real, what do you think these fantasy actions represent? --- ~* Now I only see your dull imposter ~* https://imgur.com/tdhOSKc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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