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Topic	Missouri Student is RAPED just HOURS after she attended a #METOO Rally!!!
Xialoh 10/12/18 8:28:51 PM #29:	ASlaveObeys posted... Xialoh posted... adjl posted... You should. You can't assume consent, no matter what cultural norms might suggest. I suppose I should clarify my original post. Pretend we're not talking about this rape article. Pretend you're a...guidance counselor. Or a genius detective. All you have is a scenario: a guy and a girl go out to several bars and get drinks. The girl doesn't want to have sex - because she's intoxicated now. Incidentally, the guy is also intoxicated. The girl invites this random heterosexual drunken male to sleep off his problems with her in her bedroom overnight. Would you have any concerns to voice over this scenario? Might you expect any undesirable outcomes, or has everything presented to you seemed reasonable, without need for adjustments? If you do have concerns, why? I'm not saying she was asking for it, that she implied consent, or that she deserved it. I'm saying she was a fucking moron and made a stupid decision, possibly due to her intoxication. As did this guy, apparently. Here's the thing if you and I get drunk and you take a taxi and give the driver your wallet to pay that's a bad decision. If I get into a car and try to drive home and kill a family of 4 I've also made a bad decision but one is badder than the other. Only difference is that the victims of your drunk driving played no part in the scenario. Adjust it: A family of four watches you get drunk, even buys you a few drinks, and then helps you to your car, ostensibly so that you can sleep there until you can clear your head. Then they drive onto the road, and you drive out next to them. They see you, but roll down the windows to tell you to be careful since you're drunk and all. You are of course going to prison for life when you accidentally ram them off a cliff 5 minutes later, but that family will have contributed to some extent to their own demise. Although their decision would certainly have been less bad than yours, I suppose. Even if it did get them killed. Have to wonder why they would put a drunk guy behind the wheel of a car in the first place, honestly. It's not like they asked him to kill anyone exactly. But. ~~I don't condone drunk driving, if that seems less obvious than it would otherwise.~~ --- "Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be." - Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game <cite>Xialoh posted [p:910431020] in Missouri S... [t:77090253]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASlaveObeys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xialoh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>You should. You can't assume consent, no matter what cultural norms might suggest.</quote> I suppose I should clarify my original post. Pretend we're not talking about this rape article. Pretend you're a...guidance counselor. Or a genius detective. All you have is a scenario: a guy and a girl go out to several bars and get drinks. The girl doesn't want to have sex - because she's intoxicated now. Incidentally, the guy is also intoxicated. The girl invites this random heterosexual drunken male to sleep off his problems with her in her bedroom overnight. Would you have any concerns to voice over this scenario? Might you expect any undesirable outcomes, or has everything presented to you seemed reasonable, without need for adjustments? If you do have concerns, why? I'm not saying she was asking for it, that she implied consent, or that she deserved it. I'm saying she was a fucking moron and made a stupid decision, possibly due to her intoxication. As did this guy, apparently.</quote> Here's the thing if you and I get drunk and you take a taxi and give the driver your wallet to pay that's a bad decision. If I get into a car and try to drive home and kill a family of 4 I've also made a bad decision but one is badder than the other.</quote> Only difference is that the victims of your drunk driving played no part in the scenario. Adjust it: A family of four watches you get drunk, even buys you a few drinks, and then helps you to your car, ostensibly so that you can sleep there until you can clear your head. Then they drive onto the road, and you drive out next to them. They see you, but roll down the windows to tell you to be careful since you're drunk and all. You are of course going to prison for life when you accidentally ram them off a cliff 5 minutes later, but that family will have contributed to some extent to their own demise. Although their decision would certainly have been less bad than yours, I suppose. Even if it did get them killed. Have to wonder why they would put a drunk guy behind the wheel of a car in the first place, honestly. It's not like they asked him to kill anyone exactly. But. I don't condone drunk driving, if that seems less obvious than it would otherwise. --- "Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be." - Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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