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Topic	Hearthstone Discussion Topic 286: Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie
metroid composite 10/24/18 10:44:23 AM #251:	Ah, ok cool. UltimaterializerX posted... What I don't accept is stuff clearly outside the realm of common sense like 100+ genders Mmm...I don't usually see counts that high. Ancient traditions like old Jewish law, Cree religions, and Indonesian islands are typically around 5-6. Searching google, most don't go above 10, highest I found was 63 buuut.... https://apath.org/63-genders/ But this explicitly counts gay/straight/bisexual as part of people's gender, when most people would just say "that's their sexuality, not their gender, duh" which brings it down to 21 (and it also includes both birth physiology and gender identification, which...not everyone would count both of those as "part of gender"--so...this table really has like 7 birth physiologies and 3 gender identifications... >_>). telling me to fund elective surgeries with tax dollars (pay for it yourself, and that goes beyond just this one issue, it's like telling me to pay for someone else's nose job) I mean...I guess this depends what you define as "elective". There are cases where very specific gender-related surgeries are deemed "medically necessary", and this typically requires signoff by a psychologist, a second opinion from a psychiatrist, and a third opinion from a doctor. So I mean...yeah, if someone is just like "I want this" then yeah, they should pay out of pocket. If three medical professionals are like "this patient needs this", I think it should probably be covered? Hell...even when it comes to nose jobs, they can be done to fix breathing defects (so that you don't die in your sleep from sleep apnea, the thing that killed Carrie Fisher). Or they can be done to make someone look prettier. One of these would be covered by insurance, the other one definitely not. If you put your child on puberty blocking hormones at some insanely young age like 7, I think that's child abuse and most parents agree with me on that. Mmm...7 sounds really weird to me yeah. Puberty starts around 11 or 12 for most kids, so I dunno why they would need blockers five years before then. I guess, exceptions for kids who have unusual onset of puberty at age 7 (happens to 1 in 5000 kids apparently). Regardless of whether that kid has a problem with their gender or not I'd be ok delaying their puberty for a while to give them a chance to grow up, which seems to be what this webMD article recommends: https://www.webmd.com/children/features/diagnosis-treatment#1 --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:911072277] in Hearthston... [t:77056232]...</cite> <quote>Ah, ok cool. <cite>UltimaterializerX posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't accept is stuff clearly outside the realm of common sense like 100+ genders</quote> Mmm...I don't usually see counts that high. Ancient traditions like old Jewish law, Cree religions, and Indonesian islands are typically around 5-6. Searching google, most don't go above 10, highest I found was 63 buuut.... https://apath.org/63-genders/ But this explicitly counts gay/straight/bisexual as part of people's gender, when most people would just say "that's their sexuality, not their gender, duh" which brings it down to 21 (and it also includes both birth physiology and gender identification, which...not everyone would count both of those as "part of gender"--so...this table really has like 7 birth physiologies and 3 gender identifications... >_>). <quote>telling me to fund elective surgeries with tax dollars (pay for it yourself, and that goes beyond just this one issue, it's like telling me to pay for someone else's nose job)</quote> I mean...I guess this depends what you define as "elective". There are cases where very specific gender-related surgeries are deemed "medically necessary", and this typically requires signoff by a psychologist, a second opinion from a psychiatrist, and a third opinion from a doctor. So I mean...yeah, if someone is just like "I want this" then yeah, they should pay out of pocket. If three medical professionals are like "this patient needs this", I think it should probably be covered? Hell...even when it comes to nose jobs, they can be done to fix breathing defects (so that you don't die in your sleep from sleep apnea, the thing that killed Carrie Fisher). Or they can be done to make someone look prettier. One of these would be covered by insurance, the other one definitely not. <quote>If you put your child on puberty blocking hormones at some insanely young age like 7, I think that's child abuse and most parents agree with me on that.</quote> Mmm...7 sounds really weird to me yeah. Puberty starts around 11 or 12 for most kids, so I dunno why they would need blockers five years before then. I guess, exceptions for kids who have unusual onset of puberty at age 7 (happens to 1 in 5000 kids apparently). Regardless of whether that kid has a problem with their gender or not I'd be ok delaying their puberty for a while to give them a chance to grow up, which seems to be what this webMD article recommends: https://www.webmd.com/children/features/diagnosis-treatment#1 --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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