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Topic	Are people too critical of modern games?
iiicon 11/20/18 12:36:30 PM #77:	Unbridled9 posted... The issue is that you have people who clearly do NOT understand even the basics of how gaming functions (the kind of people who think every game is Mario) coming in and imposing their own personal values can we get a list of these writers, i am genuinely curious what you're pulling from here. Unbridled9 posted... Complaining about Kratos's hyper-masculinity is something determined not by the game in the slightest but by real-life values and definitions. I would really like it if you could stop conflating criticism and complaining! And for you to clearly state why thematic elements a game brings up are off limits when discussing a game! And if it's not too much, for you to understand people aren't criticizing masculinity itself (you might be under the impression that masculinity = men, I dunno), but rather discussing God of War's limited portrayal of masculinity, and the values it assigns certain aspects of performative masculinity. There's some good pieces out there - Dia Lacina wrote two solid articles at Deorbital and Waypoint, and Gita Jackson covered another angle at Kotaku. Unbridled9 posted... I'm saying it's wrong to judge a game based on your personal opinions. That is literally what happens when you internalize media and formulate thoughts. Unbridled9 posted... After all, how would you feel if someone said Mass Effect was a terrible game because it allowed for a lesbian relationship which is against God's word? Well, in this weird hypothetical where I'm somehow reading this article, I'd ignore it and move on because who has time to dedicate to niche bigoted media criticism? Or maybe I'd share a link with a friend because it's a moderately funny stance? Unbridled9 posted... I got put on it's side simply for saying that Depression Quest was a terrible game and that critics should focus on reviewing games and not inserting their personal beliefs into the review. I don't give a crap if people make me pro, anti, or neutral on GG. Just that you make good games and don't try to make me play some crap like Gone Home by telling me it's wonderful when it's really just you gushing over it's lesbian message. "Are people too critical of modern games?" --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. <cite>iiicon posted [p:912739894] in Are people... [t:77211708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>The issue is that you have people who clearly do NOT understand even the basics of how gaming functions (the kind of people who think every game is Mario) coming in and imposing their own personal values</quote> can we get a list of these writers, i am genuinely curious what you're pulling from here. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Complaining about Kratos's hyper-masculinity is something determined not by the game in the slightest but by real-life values and definitions.</quote> I would really like it if you could stop conflating criticism and complaining! And for you to clearly state why thematic elements a game brings up are off limits when discussing a game! And if it's not too much, for you to understand people aren't criticizing masculinity itself (you might be under the impression that masculinity = men, I dunno), but rather discussing God of War's limited portrayal of masculinity, and the values it assigns certain aspects of performative masculinity. There's some good pieces out there - Dia Lacina wrote two solid articles at Deorbital and Waypoint, and Gita Jackson covered another angle at Kotaku. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm saying it's wrong to judge a game based on your personal opinions.</quote> That is literally what happens when you internalize media and formulate thoughts. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>After all, how would you feel if someone said Mass Effect was a terrible game because it allowed for a lesbian relationship which is against God's word?</quote> Well, in this weird hypothetical where I'm somehow reading this article, I'd ignore it and move on because who has time to dedicate to niche bigoted media criticism? Or maybe I'd share a link with a friend because it's a moderately funny stance? <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>I got put on it's side simply for saying that Depression Quest was a terrible game and that critics should focus on reviewing games and not inserting their personal beliefs into the review. I don't give a crap if people make me pro, anti, or neutral on GG. Just that you make good games and don't try to make me play some crap like Gone Home by telling me it's wonderful when it's really just you gushing over it's lesbian message. </quote> "Are people too critical of modern games?" --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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