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Topic	Nationalist politics topic 11: NPC meme is the gift that keeps on giving
Vlado 11/27/18 3:39:12 AM #482:	foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... What part of "Trump getting elected is the most important" didn't you understand? Nothing. What part of the contradiction expressed here don't you understand: Vlado posted... What matters is that the US voted for nationalism Vlado posted... He didn't get anything significant, sadly. Where is the contradiction? As president, so far he has failed to make significant changes to US policy. But his victory in itself has signified and enabled cultural change. He was merely a catalyst for processes way beyond his (or even your apparent archnemesis Bannon's) control, and he is merely a stepping stone toward what's to come. foolm0r0n posted... You try to reject Bannon's success even though you praise his work in turning the US nationalist. And even today, you're a pawn for his current 3 goals: 1. Let Bannon hide out of the spotlight, absolve him of guilt 2. Broaden the appeal of nationalism in the media (using Breitbart etc) 3. Decouple nationalism from Trump, so someone else can replace him easily It's hilarious that you try to pin everything that terrifies you today on Bannon. These processes are WAY beyond any individual's power. Bannon is helping channel creative energy in fruitful directions, that's the most he can be credited with. Also, "guilt"? Seriously? If saving your country from the filthy paws of globalism is "guilt," we must have inverted the meanings of "right" and "wrong" completely. And that's the first goal? Are you expecting Bannon to try to become God-Emperor of Mankind or something? For once, try to think of the real world, not some harry potter make-believe nonsense where the universe cannot exist without an individual evil villain to hold it together. Nationalism was never Trump's. He's merely been nationalism's vessel in the US. Better nationalist leaders with stronger convictions had already appeared (and are still appearing) in numerous other countries years before Trump announced he'd run. Of course, his election has helped nationalism rise further around the world. And that's also important. Even if the US go down, the world is already safely beyond globalism's reach, barring a world war. In short, for sure he's a key player whose rhetoric has impact, but not the top star - and, at the end, nationalism is not about any individual, it's about the truth. foolm0r0n posted... no doubts about what you believe Wrong. I have no doubts about obvious truths like the things you listed. I have doubts about politicians I believe in. You need to accept that some things are simply true, and not all media propaganda in the world claiming they are false can change that. There are truths which are natural, and outside of human control. No matter how much some people try to twist reality, reality is not something which humans can change - at most they can sucker other people into denying it. foolm0r0n posted... Alaska lol Cherry-picking does not change a natural truth. Oh wow, a sheep was born with 2 heads due to an anomaly, therefore we need to change zoology textbooks to say that sheep have usually one or sometimes 2 heads? No. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:913109770] in Nationalis... [t:77120852]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>What part of "Trump getting elected is the most important" didn't you understand?</quote> Nothing. What part of the contradiction expressed here don't you understand: <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>What matters is that the US voted for nationalism</quote> <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't get anything significant, sadly.</quote> </quote> Where is the contradiction? As president, so far he has failed to make significant changes to US policy. But his victory in itself has signified and enabled cultural change. He was merely a catalyst for processes way beyond his (or even your apparent archnemesis Bannon's) control, and he is merely a stepping stone toward what's to come. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>You try to reject Bannon's success even though you praise his work in turning the US nationalist. And even today, you're a pawn for his current 3 goals: 1. Let Bannon hide out of the spotlight, absolve him of guilt 2. Broaden the appeal of nationalism in the media (using Breitbart etc) 3. Decouple nationalism from Trump, so someone else can replace him easily</quote> It's hilarious that you try to pin everything that terrifies you today on Bannon. These processes are WAY beyond any individual's power. Bannon is helping channel creative energy in fruitful directions, that's the most he can be credited with. Also, "guilt"? Seriously? If saving your country from the filthy paws of globalism is "guilt," we must have inverted the meanings of "right" and "wrong" completely. And that's the first goal? Are you expecting Bannon to try to become God-Emperor of Mankind or something? For once, try to think of the real world, not some harry potter make-believe nonsense where the universe cannot exist without an individual evil villain to hold it together. Nationalism was never Trump's. He's merely been nationalism's vessel in the US. Better nationalist leaders with stronger convictions had already appeared (and are still appearing) in numerous other countries years before Trump announced he'd run. Of course, his election has helped nationalism rise further around the world. And that's also important. Even if the US go down, the world is already safely beyond globalism's reach, barring a world war. In short, for sure he's a key player whose rhetoric has impact, but not the top star - and, at the end, nationalism is not about any individual, it's about the truth. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>no doubts about what you believe</quote> Wrong. I have no doubts about obvious truths like the things you listed. I have doubts about politicians I believe in. You need to accept that some things are simply true, and not all media propaganda in the world claiming they are false can change that. There are truths which are natural, and outside of human control. No matter how much some people try to twist reality, reality is not something which humans can change - at most they can sucker other people into denying it. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Alaska</quote> lol Cherry-picking does not change a natural truth. Oh wow, a sheep was born with 2 heads due to an anomaly, therefore we need to change zoology textbooks to say that sheep have usually one or sometimes 2 heads? No. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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