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ParanoidObsessive 12/08/18 12:53:48 PM #36:	rogerskg1979 posted... They won't have any problem recasting. They already recast Banner and Rhodes. Both of whom were relatively minor at the time (Rhodey because he's a supporting character, Banner because the Hulk movie was kind of shit and no one cared). But recasting characters like Cap or Tony would be nearly impossible to do without major backlash at this point, and they're smart enough to know it. So I don't foresee them ever recasting either. The more likely scenario is either killing them off or having them retire, then leaving the possibility open for them to show up again in the future if they feel like guest-starring again at some point. In the comics, this is basically how the Avengers worked as a time almost from the beginning (the original team of Iron Man/Thor/Hulk/Ant-Man/Wasp eventually gave way to Cap/Hawkeye/Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver, and various members either joined or left over the years. But eventually, you start to run out of characters, especially if they decide to keep the X-characters separate (which they might, because they work better that way anyway). rogerskg1979 posted... A-list characters? A lot of the recently introduced characters are certainly not A-list. GOTG was unknown to everyone but the most diehard comic readers prior to being introduced in the MCU. (Heck, 20 years ago, Iron Man wasn't even that popular of a character outside the comic medium and look at him now.) Yeah, but some of that was luck and some of it was brilliant casting - Iron Man likely wouldn't have done as well with anyone other than RDJ as Tony. But even Marvel isn't perfect when it comes to casting (again, see also the Hulk movie). As for GotG, what helped there to some degree is that they ARE so obscure to non-comic fans (doubly so since it's the newer version of the team). And the fact that Chris Pratt is Chris Pratt, and they were willing to take a chance on using him in spite of pretty much everyone ever thinking he didn't look like an action hero (which he didn't, before a lot of trips to the gym). Rocket working (which he easily might not have) and Bautista having surprisingly effective comic timing also helped immensely. The movie easily could have failed if they'd cast different people, or used different characters (like the original version of the team). Marvel's main asset is having one single man in charge of the entire vision of the line, and that man being a comic fan who actually understands the characters. Which leads to... rogerskg1979 posted... Marvel has proven that they can turn unknown characters like Ant-Man and GOTG into successful movies, and they have no shortage of other unknown characters they can use. They are in no danger of running out of characters anytime soon. Yes, but Marvel is still picking characters they see potential in. They started the MCU with Iron Man and not, say, Speedball for a reason. Some characters have inherently less potential no matter who you cast or how good a script you write for them. They'll have WAAAY more trouble trying to win audiences over with characters like Swordsman, Doctor Druid, or Starfox than they will with someone like Tigra or Quasar. Meanwhile, characters like the Two-Gun Kid or Sersi are too hard to explain in a worthwhile way, while a character like Wonder Man would depend almost entirely on the script and costume design to either be cool or absolutely terrible. Is Marvel on the verge of running out of characters? Obviously not. But the clusterfuck with the Inhumans shows that they can't always strike gold every single time. Even they can't salvage EVERY character concept. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:913772249] in Avengers E... [t:77277392]...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote>They won't have any problem recasting. They already recast Banner and Rhodes.</quote> Both of whom were relatively minor at the time (Rhodey because he's a supporting character, Banner because the Hulk movie was kind of shit and no one cared). But recasting characters like Cap or Tony would be nearly impossible to do without major backlash at this point, and they're smart enough to know it. So I don't foresee them ever recasting either. The more likely scenario is either killing them off or having them retire, then leaving the possibility open for them to show up again in the future if they feel like guest-starring again at some point. In the comics, this is basically how the Avengers worked as a time almost from the beginning (the original team of Iron Man/Thor/Hulk/Ant-Man/Wasp eventually gave way to Cap/Hawkeye/Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver, and various members either joined or left over the years. But eventually, you start to run out of characters, especially if they decide to keep the X-characters separate (which they might, because they work better that way anyway). <cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote>A-list characters? A lot of the recently introduced characters are certainly not A-list. GOTG was unknown to everyone but the most diehard comic readers prior to being introduced in the MCU. (Heck, 20 years ago, Iron Man wasn't even that popular of a character outside the comic medium and look at him now.)</quote> Yeah, but some of that was luck and some of it was brilliant casting - Iron Man likely wouldn't have done as well with anyone other than RDJ as Tony. But even Marvel isn't perfect when it comes to casting (again, see also the Hulk movie). As for GotG, what helped there to some degree is that they ARE so obscure to non-comic fans (doubly so since it's the newer version of the team). And the fact that Chris Pratt is Chris Pratt, and they were willing to take a chance on using him in spite of pretty much everyone ever thinking he didn't look like an action hero (which he didn't, before a lot of trips to the gym). Rocket working (which he easily might not have) and Bautista having surprisingly effective comic timing also helped immensely. The movie easily could have failed if they'd cast different people, or used different characters (like the original version of the team). Marvel's main asset is having one single man in charge of the entire vision of the line, and that man being a comic fan who actually understands the characters. Which leads to... <cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote>Marvel has proven that they can turn unknown characters like Ant-Man and GOTG into successful movies, and they have no shortage of other unknown characters they can use. They are in no danger of running out of characters anytime soon.</quote> Yes, but Marvel is still picking characters they see potential in. They started the MCU with Iron Man and not, say, Speedball for a reason. Some characters have inherently less potential no matter who you cast or how good a script you write for them. They'll have WAAAY more trouble trying to win audiences over with characters like Swordsman, Doctor Druid, or Starfox than they will with someone like Tigra or Quasar. Meanwhile, characters like the Two-Gun Kid or Sersi are too hard to explain in a worthwhile way, while a character like Wonder Man would depend almost entirely on the script and costume design to either be cool or absolutely terrible. Is Marvel on the verge of running out of characters? Obviously not. But the clusterfuck with the Inhumans shows that they can't always strike gold every single time. Even they can't salvage EVERY character concept. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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