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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777 05/14/19 7:57:45 PM #321:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Nrrr posted... Suprak the Stud posted... Nrrr posted... Biden had some announcement bonus going on, and if you look back, basically everyone had one. It's dying down a little bit now. He is still in the lead but at this time last year Clinton was like a 50 point favorite, so it definitely is far from over. And honestly I think the polls are undersampling young people, they just don't answer phones and their percentage of the vote increased in the last two elections. True but Bernie was an unknown quantity at that point. He isnt now. Which means youre basically hoping for Warren/Harris/Mayor Pete to similarly catch fire and I dont think any of them have Bernies magnetism I think Bernie is the best shot besides Biden, though still less likely. His biggest strengths are fundraising, the fact he is the second choice of most Biden voters, and his strength being greater in the early voting states than in general polling. So if he does well early, kills it in debate and wins over some Biden voters and continues being able to engage massive enthusiasm he definitely has a shot and it's more likely than it was in 2016. His biggest weakness right now (edit: compared to 2016) are those jilted Hillary supporters who literally think him and his supporters are as sexist and toxic as Trump / the Alt-Right. I just got done reading a Twitter thread about it with thousands of likes and retweets. From what I can tell, this groups first pick is Warren, who I would be glad to support...but their second pick is Biden, which makes no fuckin sense. Those jilted Hillary supporters are incorrigible. They are all-in on preserving the wealth of the upper middle class, and that means their only way of distinguishing themselves from Republicans is identity politics. So they are all-in on identity politics. They are the problem with American politics and Trump is, hopefully, the remedy. But it may take two terms, or maybe more (with another GOP president after Trump) for the medicine to have its effect. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:921899431] in Politics C... [t:77687499]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nrrr posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nrrr posted...</cite> <quote>Biden had some announcement bonus going on, and if you look back, basically everyone had one. It's dying down a little bit now. He is still in the lead but at this time last year Clinton was like a 50 point favorite, so it definitely is far from over. And honestly I think the polls are undersampling young people, they just don't answer phones and their percentage of the vote increased in the last two elections.</quote> True but Bernie was an unknown quantity at that point. He isnt now. Which means youre basically hoping for Warren/Harris/Mayor Pete to similarly catch fire and I dont think any of them have Bernies magnetism</quote> I think Bernie is the best shot besides Biden, though still less likely. His biggest strengths are fundraising, the fact he is the second choice of most Biden voters, and his strength being greater in the early voting states than in general polling. So if he does well early, kills it in debate and wins over some Biden voters and continues being able to engage massive enthusiasm he definitely has a shot and it's more likely than it was in 2016.</quote> His biggest weakness right now (edit: compared to 2016) are those jilted Hillary supporters who literally think him and his supporters are as sexist and toxic as Trump / the Alt-Right. I just got done reading a Twitter thread about it with thousands of likes and retweets. From what I can tell, this groups first pick is Warren, who I would be glad to support...but their second pick is Biden, which makes no fuckin sense.</quote> Those jilted Hillary supporters are incorrigible. They are all-in on preserving the wealth of the upper middle class, and that means their only way of distinguishing themselves from Republicans is identity politics. So they are all-in on identity politics. They are the problem with American politics and Trump is, hopefully, the remedy. But it may take two terms, or maybe more (with another GOP president after Trump) for the medicine to have its effect. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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