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I am very much pro choice.

Honestly though, I'm way more bothered by the arguments coming from pro choice people than pro life people. The thing I have to give to pro life people is that their arguments tend to be more consistent and less contradictory even though I disagree with their stance. I keep seeing weird straw man arguments from pro choice people where they assume the other persons vaguely related political positions.

Typically pro life people think life begins at conception and typically that is a religiously fueled idea (though you can definitely argue that while being atheist). They feel outlawing abortions decreases abortions.

Pro choice stances inherently seem a lot more convoluted. Though that depends.

For instance, I am pro choice, but generally pretty anti abortion. My stance comes down to believing abortion is mostly wrong, but I don't believe it should be attempted to be reduced or banned through legislation that criminalizes the act. I think the option should be available, but I believe it is a poor option. There is more nuance to my opinion than that, but that is the gist.

Arguing that men shouldn't be able to make laws that only effect women is dumb. The reason being that abortion clearly effects more than women (though it still is mostly a women's issue) and females are sometimes pro life and thus can be the constituents of these male legislators. Being a pro life woman isn't being a traitor to your sex though I'd still argue it is a stupid position to hold for other reasons.

Honestly, people should just be responsible in choosing sexual partners and in their use of contraceptives. That alone solves the vast majority of problems stemming from this though I get that people making mistakes is a part of life.

I mostly wish that pro life people would give up this battle on the legislative front and enact various types of social programs that make carrying a baby to term an easier solution. Stuff like shelters for pregnant women, better adoption and foster child programs, daycare, job placement for expecting mothers, etc. A lot of churches do offer various programs like this, but I wish they would be the only real focus in preventing and/or reducing abortion rates.
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