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darkknight109 posted...

Yes, and whites also had several hundred years to build up resistances to the pathogens they got from living in close proximity to domesticated livestock.

That's an advantage of being more technologically advanced.

darkknight109 posted...

No, there was no "New World Plague" that the mighty Europeans had to conquer. About the most debilitating new-world disease the Europeans faced was syphilis.

Plagues, like influenza, bubonic plague, tuberculosis, mumps, measles, small pox, and the like, aren't magical miasmas of death that hang over their native lands like you're implying; they happen when a disease jumps from an animal to a human. And the Europeans were fucking great at cultivating plagues, given how horrible 1500s-era Europe was at separating "water for drinking" from "water that we let the animals shit in". I find it hilarious that you're bragging about the superiority of European medicine, when their complete absence of hygiene and basic medical knowledge was exactly what made these diseases into the contagions they became in the first place (and given that half of Europe died to the black death, maybe hold off on the victory lap there).

There was no new world plague for the Europeans to fight off with their big-brained medicine like you're claiming, because the Native Americans didn't have domesticated animals. And they didn't have domesticated animals because there were no animals suitable for domestication. Even today, aside from some breeds of dog, there are no domesticated animals that are originally indigenous to North America (and if you extend it to South America as well, you get precisely two additions in the llama and alpaca). Contrast that to Europe, which got horses, cattle, sheep, goats, various forms of poultry, pigs, dogs, cats, and donkeys. among others, and it's not hard to see why Europe spent much of the middle ages as the world's virulent disease cauldron.

We got these diseases, we didn't die off like them, we won. We didn't start with domestic cows, pigs and dogs, we had bison-like cows, eurochs, boars and wolves. We domesticated our environment and grew stronger, the Native Americans did not, point 2 to europeans.

Native America stagnated and ended up vulnerable to a dominant force.

darkknight109 posted...

So why are you still talking about it?

You brought it up, I wasn't raised in a barn so I don't just drag the conversation wherever I want.

darkknight109 posted...

That's racist horseshit and you know it.

Christianity evolved beyond the crusades, Islam stuck with it, stagnant cultures that refuse to mix are less accepted than an evolving society like all of Europe has been.

darkknight109 posted...

You apparently completely ignored the rest of the post you carefully excised my quote from.

Did I now.

darkknight109 posted...

Oh, man, do you need to get out more. If you want to see men portrayed heroically, may I suggest you look into, I don't know, literally any comic book, action movie, or video game released ever?

I probably should've phrased it better. I meant that villainous roles almost exclusively cast men. Women are given an assumed angelicism of sorts while men are cast as beasts in varying stages of domestication.
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Doctor Foxx posted...
The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas.