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Kyuubi4269 posted...

That's an advantage of being more technologically advanced.

No, it's an advantage of eating cow shit for long enough that it killed off huge swathes of the population, leaving only those whose genetics gave them better disease resistance. Technology had nothing to do with it, given the horrid state of medical knowledge of the day.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

We got these diseases, we didn't die off like them, we won.

Dude, 100 million people died to the black death alone. It took 200 years for Europe's population to recover to pre-plague levels. We didn't "win", we died off the same as everyone else, we were just fortunate enough not to have another culture decide to pick that moment to invade.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

We didn't start with domestic cows, pigs and dogs, we had bison-like cows, eurochs, boars and wolves. We domesticated our environment and grew stronger, the Native Americans did not, point 2 to europeans.

You know, I almost think you're taking the piss now. The fact that I have to explain shit this basic to you is ridiculous.

Yeah, Europe didn't start with cows, pigs, or goats, they started with aurochs, boars, and ibex. You know what North America didn't have? Aurochs, boars or ibex.

Again - and I already spelled this out in the last post - there are no animals indigenous to North America suitable for domestication. This is why - even today, with all the technological advancements we have made - there is no such thing as a domesticated bear or a domesticated moose. There are tamed specimens of those species, but that's not the same as domesticating them. In order to domesticate an animal, it needs to have a very specific combination of temperament, fecundity, and non-competition for human-needed resources and no North American animals fit the bill. And if you doubt that's true, consider that we domesticated horses about 5000 years ago but we still haven't domesticated their close relative, the zebra, because the differences in a zebra's temperament (specifically the lack of a family/herd structure) make it a much, much more difficult animal to domesticate (and, given that humans originated in Africa, we had a lot longer to try and break the Zebra but tens of thousands of years later it's still not off the "to-do" list).

North and South American natives didn't fail to domesticate their animals because they weren't as smart as the Europeans or whatever other racist bullshit you're trying to spew, they didn't domesticate their animals because they didn't have any animals that could be domesticated. The Europeans lucked out in that regard (an apt thing to point out, given that the topic of the day is "privilege") and it goes a long way towards explaining why Europe and Asia advanced much faster than Africa, Oceanica, and the Americas.
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