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Funkydog 06/24/19 8:58:17 PM #173:	TommyG663513 posted... Funkydog posted... TommyG663513 posted... Is it possible that pushing for rights too hard amd too fast can have some blow back effects? I guess America should have shut up and been quiet instead of rebelling. I guess people shouldn't have pushed hard for slaves to be free, and attempted to enforce this in other countries. I guess women shouldn't have demanded the vote. I guess that opinion is pretty stupid. No that is not at all what I said. I don't know the specifics of those other movements so I don't know of how fast they moved or what backlash there was. Why are people so resistant to the idea of questioning whether certain social movements progressed in the best way possible? These are important questions to answer. Each social movement needs to improve upon the last one. The point is that change in society doesn't come with "slow and simple, allowing people to adjust" it has been forced, often with bloody means. People are hard to change and often need to be made to accept by a change in law from governments requiring it. If people in the past had done as you suggest, do you honestly think equality would be as far along as it is now or do you think that those in power (White men) would have continued to keep everyone else down? You wanting to "question if pushing will meet resistance" is asinine because of course it fucking will. But who gives a fuck? Change has to happen and history has shown us that it is often done through people laying down their lives, or killing those that refuse to change. Not that I am saying in this case homophobes and others resistant to change need to die, but simply that action has been the key part to getting society to change. America fought a war to gain its freedom, then against its self to make slaves free. A slave rebellion helped immensely to pushing Britain to end its part in the slave trade and then forming a division with their navy to enforce its end through the Trans Atlantic Slave trade area. The suffragette movement was hardly a "kind and peaceful movement" and even after WW1 they weren't given equal rights despite being utterly vital to it. They employed arson and other terror tactics to achieve their goals, including hunger strikes and sacrificing their own lives. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:923797073] in Survey Sho... [t:77815959]...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote>Is it possible that pushing for rights too hard amd too fast can have some blow back effects? </quote> I guess America should have shut up and been quiet instead of rebelling. I guess people shouldn't have pushed hard for slaves to be free, and attempted to enforce this in other countries. I guess women shouldn't have demanded the vote. I guess that opinion is pretty stupid.</quote> No that is not at all what I said. I don't know the specifics of those other movements so I don't know of how fast they moved or what backlash there was. Why are people so resistant to the idea of questioning whether certain social movements progressed in the best way possible? These are important questions to answer. Each social movement needs to improve upon the last one.</quote> The point is that change in society doesn't come with "slow and simple, allowing people to adjust" it has been forced, often with bloody means. People are hard to change and often need to be made to accept by a change in law from governments requiring it. If people in the past had done as you suggest, do you honestly think equality would be as far along as it is now or do you think that those in power (White men) would have continued to keep everyone else down? You wanting to "question if pushing will meet resistance" is asinine because of course it fucking will. But who gives a fuck? Change has to happen and history has shown us that it is often done through people laying down their lives, or killing those that refuse to change. Not that I am saying in this case homophobes and others resistant to change need to die, but simply that action has been the key part to getting society to change. America fought a war to gain its freedom, then against its self to make slaves free. A slave rebellion helped immensely to pushing Britain to end its part in the slave trade and then forming a division with their navy to enforce its end through the Trans Atlantic Slave trade area. The suffragette movement was hardly a "kind and peaceful movement" and even after WW1 they weren't given equal rights despite being utterly vital to it. They employed arson and other terror tactics to achieve their goals, including hunger strikes and sacrificing their own lives. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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