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5tarscream posted...

Pez you seem to be spending most of your time defending Tom at the moment instead of looking for scum.
Im guessing youre really confident hes town so which of the people on him do you think is scum?

Per my big ISO regarding the suspicion on Tom from D2

TLDR: Based on interactions with Tom

Ulti > Lopen > SBell > Lea lean scum on. Given 5tar's scan on Ulti, Lopen and Sbell are higher on my scum list.

Ben I still read pretty null, but lean slightly town. HB I already read strong town and I'm reinforced in that read.

Cam, Corrik, and Puns I keep to my previous reads.

How much of this has changed? Cam didn't change. I didn't know what to do with Voldemort at first. But ultimately I think my read of him prior to his claim of Voldemort still fits best with town and I agree with HB and Puns who both suggested he's a flavor miller for the flavor cop.

That leaves SBell and Lopen on my list from that.

I asked for people's opinions on SBell giving them my three different guesses at his motivation for his play. Since then I think it's much more unlikely that he is indeed town power. So, what's left is he was scum trying to hide in plain sight or he was villager looking to draw attention to himself by looking like he was trying to hide. I don't know him well enough, but to borrow Chris' phrase I think both of those plays are within his range.

Lopen intrigues me. I do not like his interaction with Tom on D2. I did not like him not voting HB D1. He claims he didn't need to, and there was some truth to that. One post stuck out to me. As Ulti pressed him on not voting for HB, Lopen offered to vote and unvote. It would put his name on the votals and pretty much erase all of Ulti's argument. Or at least put it into WIFOM territory. But he didn't actually do this. If I had been him I would've just voted and unvoted, I wouldn't have offered. That felt weird to me.

However, in Lopen's favor is his argument against Red even after the Watcher claim. This is definitely a point in his favor. Probably lots of points in his favor. Then, Tom and Lopen's role play of the gut/logic interactions and his willingness to listen to Tom make me not as sure.

As for other scum reads, I doubt both MZero and SBell are scum. I don't have anything that ties them together. It's mostly gut I guess. I can't point to anything other than saying I don't think Red would let them both play this way at the same time if they were all on the scum team together.

I'm not sold on Lolo, but I'm not voting him today without someone having something much more concrete. The timing of his post and the vigor of Lily believing she wouldn't be on a team with Voldemort is pretty compelling.

So that leaves in my possible scum pile, Lea, Benjamin, SBell, MZero, Death, and Lolo. If not all the scum can be found there, Lopen, Ulti, and 5tar.
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