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07/01/19 6:56:29 AM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
...because the division was tiny at the time, so even the jobbers were relatively significant at the time. (Not that I'm saying she was a jobber and I'll also admit that I liked her towards the beginning of her run.)

Yeah, but it's sort of a truism that a smaller fish is always going to look bigger in a small pond versus a large one, and you sort of have to compare her to her contemporaries more than you do the modern product, because it's been radically different for years now. She may not be the female equivalent of Hulk Hogan or Randy Savage, but it's not like we're talking about the female equivalent of Mantaur or Duke the Dumpster, either. People who were watching the product at the time would remember her well enough.

She was with the company for a few years, feuded with some of the most major female names available at the time, and even had a match at Wrestlemania. For her time period, she was definitely upper mid-card, and she had at least some presence outside the company as well (a couple TV guest shots and a run on Survivor).

Granted, someone who wasn't watching the product at the time (and I can't blame them, on the whole it was kind of meh then), or who never really paid attention to women's storylines at all (and I can't blame them, as they were kind of stupid) might not remember her all that much, but that's a problem for every woman of the period (except maybe Trish and Mickie James, but they both got over prior to that era so are kind of exceptions anyway).



Broken_Zeus posted...
I don't remember her having much in the way of talent.

You could pretty much say that about every woman in the WWE at the time.

Along with the big pond aphorism above, it's kind of a truism that the level of talent tends to rise based on competition. If you're in a locker room full of incredible athletic workrate machines, you're likely going to try and up your game to stand out against them, and will potentially learn from them during matches to improve your own skills. But if you're in a division when literally all Vince wants you to do is bra-and-panty matches, there really isn't all that much motivation or opportunity to improve.

Trish might be the only female wrestler of the last 30 years or so who seems to have improved IN the WWE in spite of that environment as opposed to coming from outside that environment (ie, the NXT and indie-trained girls they brought in prior to their own "women's revolution"). Part of why women like Gail Kim and Victoria left for TNA, where it at least seemed they could sort of be wrestlers and not models.



Broken_Zeus posted...
Something I'll have to look into, but the supposition surrounding her death is in somewhat poor taste, considering that she had a whole life outside the WWE and she hadn't worked for the WWE in like a decade.

I think it mostly started because her lawyer brought it up. But I'm not sure the gap in time matters, if you take into account she supposedly left the WWE to take care of her daughter, and then committed suicide about a year after her daughter was legally an adult. It legitimizes a scenario where you can assume the only reason she didn't do it sooner is because she was waiting for her daughter to be able to take care of herself.

Granted, that may not actually be the case, and we really don't know all of the facts or what's true and what isn't, but it's worth keeping in mind. Because if any of the story IS true, it does kind of reinforce the idea that the WWE can be a horrific place to work for a lot of wrestlers (and even currently, there's some major employment problems there that really need addressing - part of what's making AEW look so good to some).


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