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TopicValley of The Geeks
Aaantlion
09/17/19 8:53:43 PM
#263:


Tech issues still >_>

ParanoidObsessive posted...
There are a number of scenes where the movie actually tries to adhere to the comic too literally and it messes with the pacing and flow a bit (ie, a case where adaptation has to compromise to the new medium and not just copy everything over verbatim). Ironically, the movie also hurts to some degree because some things happen that lack context because other scenes from the comic were cut for time (which goes back to a case of knowing what to cut and what NOT to cut - which is why you need to understand the material at more than a superficial level). All of that feels like it stems from Snyder only understanding the source on its most superficial level, and picking scenes because they "look cool" and not necessarily based on their importance to the overall story.


Not to sound like a broken record but... examples?

And does the fact that I followed things fine mean I must have read the comic first or the omissions/cut scenes just not as big a deal as people think?

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Other than that, the biggest flaw is that, in at least some cases, the acting performances aren't quite what they need to be. Rorschach, Manhattan, and the Comedian are great choices, Nite Owl is serviceable, but Ozymandias tends to play his role a bit too hammy for what he's supposed to be (which kind of makes his turn more obvious in advance), and Silk Spectre... is what it is.


I absolutely loved Ozy's portrayal.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The one HUGE complaint most comic fans have is changing the ending


I also prefer the new ending, between the fact that it doesn't add new elements, Doctor Manhattan was *already* an established threatening entity, and the Ozy's attempts to alienate him also establish a motive for him going over the edge. Plus if he isn't established at the enemy, humanity has less incentive to unite since they'd assume he'd help them regardless.

The one change I kinda remember questioning is the group that's with him during the fake assassination attempt. I recall one version (possibly the film) having critics being killed in the crossfire while the other might have been more people whose deaths didn't benefit him.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
It's not a BAD movie. But it's not really a GREAT movie, either. It sort of hovers around above average - though that admittedly probably ranks it higher in comic movie terms, because there've been so many stinkers.

And to be perfectly honest, it's the only comic movie Snyder has been involved with that wasn't painfully bad. Other than 300, of course, but that's helped by the fact that it's almost entirely visual with almost no subtle subtext whatsoever. Again, Zack likes visuals. The thinky stuff, not so much.


I consider it a fantastic film and yes, Zack's visuals (and fight choreography) in Watchmen helped sell me on the film. I'm not so much a fan of 300, given it tends to drag on although it's stunningly beautiful at times.
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