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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 239: Saudi You Think You Can Dance?
red sox 777 09/24/19 1:23:06 PM #223:	LordoftheMorons posted... The Biden allegations have been thoroughly debunked. Biden was pursuing the official position of the US government, which is that the prosecutor in question was himself corrupt and was standing in the way of efforts to reform Ukraine. Trump was requesting that Zelensky make shit up about Biden. But even if there was something on Biden, it would still be impeachably bad for Trump to make this request because he would be abusing his presidential powers to advance his own reelection efforts. Nelson_Mandela posted... He's admitted to pushing for the Ukrainian president to open an investigation into Biden. That's not a crime He's subsequently admitted that he ordered payments to Ukraine halted a few days before that. Also not a crime. "High crimes and misdemeanors" don't refer only to actions that are specifically crimes by US law. There are a lot of things that elected officials can do (and are impeachable) that normal US citizens can't (for example, refuse to release funds to Ukraine until they make up dirt on Joe Biden). See the Hamilton quote above. How is it that Biden can hide behind the reason that he was pursuing official US policy but Trump can't? Trump sets the policy now, just as Biden and Obama did before. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927879341] in Politics C... [t:78026276]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>The Biden allegations have been thoroughly debunked. Biden was pursuing the official position of the US government, which is that the prosecutor in question was himself corrupt and was standing in the way of efforts to reform Ukraine. Trump was requesting that Zelensky make shit up about Biden. But even if there was something on Biden, it would still be impeachably bad for Trump to make this request because he would be abusing his presidential powers to advance his own reelection efforts. Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> He's admitted to pushing for the Ukrainian president to open an investigation into Biden. That's not a crime He's subsequently admitted that he ordered payments to Ukraine halted a few days before that. Also not a crime.</quote> "High crimes and misdemeanors" don't refer only to actions that are specifically crimes by US law. There are a lot of things that elected officials can do (and are impeachable) that normal US citizens can't (for example, refuse to release funds to Ukraine until they make up dirt on Joe Biden). See the Hamilton quote above.</quote> How is it that Biden can hide behind the reason that he was pursuing official US policy but Trump can't? Trump sets the policy now, just as Biden and Obama did before. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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