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Topic	I've genuinely never seen this much bad PR for a game before (Pokemon)
LinkPizza 11/15/19 2:09:55 PM #81:	BanjoBoomer posted... Some people transfer from old games, which they then use to trade with people who don't transfer from old games. It's part of the whole collector ecosystem. The point is that no one is required to purchase or play multiple games in order to complete a pokedex, it was up to you if you wanted to play through multiple games or offer trades to someone else who had. But now those pokemon simply can't be obtained whatsoever in Sw/Sh. And furthermore, moving a collection from one game to another isn't like moving cards to a new binder, it's more like leaving behind part of your collection in the attic in your old house when you move. How many people actually regularly go back to old pokemon games? It's a yearly generational franchise, usually people move on to the new one and the old one gets left behind. Obvious Pokemon Home is supposed to be Gamefreak's way of resolving that issue, but it's pointless because we can't use our pokemon and we have no guaruntee that a given pokemon will ever be in another game at all. And 800+ Pokemon isn't ridiculous. If Gamefreak had no choice but to include 2000 pokemon in the game in order to make a profit, then they would take the time necessary to add that many to the game. There are far more ambitious games out there, the only difference is the ambitious games can't sell on brand name alone. Yeah. But not every Pokmon has to be in every game. They could have, and probably shouldve cut that out earlier, tbh... It kind of is. With actual cards, youre taking them from one binder and putting them in another. You dont have to recollect it. With Pokmon, youre taking them from one game, and moving it to another. You also dont have to recollect (or re-catch it) again. They are pretty similar. You moving part (or all) of your collection from one place to another... And AFAIK, there was never any guarantee. They just hadnt cut any before. But they were mostly likely going to soon. If not this game, within the next few... 800+ Pokmon is a game is kind of ridiculous. Thats a lot. Imagine if you actually had to catch them in game all over again. That would take forever. Its can easily take a long time for people to catch like the original 150 sometimes. It could take more than 5x as long. And thats if they show up. The regions arent that big. Meaning certain areas would have hundreds of Pokmon youd be grinding just to get a specific one. And the game will continue to sell on brand name alone. Because people will groan and complain, and then still buy the game. Over and over. And when they stop, it wont matter. Because the old fans that sill like it will buy. And the new fans. If the national dex bothers you that much, it may just be time for Pokmon to end for you. This may be the new direction they are going... Yellow posted... But people aren't satisfied with 400 pokemon when they want 800, and that's totally possible. Some people have favorite pokemon, that's half their favorite pokemon being cut. And there's no good reason from a development perspective. Literally just copy and paste the models and data they already have. Polish slightly where needed with ~20 designers and the millions of dollars of profit. People aren't in the wrong about being unhappy. Thats fine to be unhappy. Not everyone is going to be happy with a game. But you also cant make everyone happy. Just because youre not happy about something doesnt mean everyone is. Some people are probably happy about things youre not happy about. People like different things. So, when it comes to games, some people like certain things that others dont. And thats fine... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930181664] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Some people transfer from old games, which they then use to trade with people who don't transfer from old games. It's part of the whole collector ecosystem. The point is that no one is required to purchase or play multiple games in order to complete a pokedex, it was up to you if you wanted to play through multiple games or offer trades to someone else who had. But now those pokemon simply can't be obtained whatsoever in Sw/Sh. And furthermore, moving a collection from one game to another isn't like moving cards to a new binder, it's more like leaving behind part of your collection in the attic in your old house when you move. How many people actually regularly go back to old pokemon games? It's a yearly generational franchise, usually people move on to the new one and the old one gets left behind. Obvious Pokemon Home is supposed to be Gamefreak's way of resolving that issue, but it's pointless because we can't use our pokemon and we have no guaruntee that a given pokemon will ever be in another game at all. And 800+ Pokemon isn't ridiculous. If Gamefreak had no choice but to include 2000 pokemon in the game in order to make a profit, then they would take the time necessary to add that many to the game. There are far more ambitious games out there, the only difference is the ambitious games can't sell on brand name alone.</quote> Yeah. But not every Pokmon has to be in every game. They could have, and probably shouldve cut that out earlier, tbh... It kind of is. With actual cards, youre taking them from one binder and putting them in another. You dont have to recollect it. With Pokmon, youre taking them from one game, and moving it to another. You also dont have to recollect (or re-catch it) again. They are pretty similar. You moving part (or all) of your collection from one place to another... And AFAIK, there was never any guarantee. They just hadnt cut any before. But they were mostly likely going to soon. If not this game, within the next few... 800+ Pokmon is a game is kind of ridiculous. Thats a lot. Imagine if you actually had to catch them in game all over again. That would take forever. Its can easily take a long time for people to catch like the original 150 sometimes. It could take more than 5x as long. And thats if they show up. The regions arent that big. Meaning certain areas would have hundreds of Pokmon youd be grinding just to get a specific one. And the game will continue to sell on brand name alone. Because people will groan and complain, and then still buy the game. Over and over. And when they stop, it wont matter. Because the old fans that sill like it will buy. And the new fans. If the national dex bothers you that much, it may just be time for Pokmon to end for you. This may be the new direction they are going... Yellow posted...</cite> <quote>But people aren't satisfied with 400 pokemon when they want 800, and that's totally possible. Some people have favorite pokemon, that's half their favorite pokemon being cut. And there's no good reason from a development perspective. Literally just copy and paste the models and data they already have. Polish slightly where needed with ~20 designers and the millions of dollars of profit. People aren't in the wrong about being unhappy.</quote> Thats fine to be unhappy. Not everyone is going to be happy with a game. But you also cant make everyone happy. Just because youre not happy about something doesnt mean everyone is. Some people are probably happy about things youre not happy about. People like different things. So, when it comes to games, some people like certain things that others dont. And thats fine... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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