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Topic	Democrat congressman blames McConnell for California school shooting
joe40001 11/20/19 8:51:27 PM #78:	Mr Hangman posted... I don't think it would prevent most of them. Not zero, sure. "If it saves one life then it's worth doing!" I hear you say. But no, that's wrong. Lowering the speed limits to 20 MPH everywhere at all times would save lives, but we don't do that. The costs would be greater than the benefits. Gun licenses and background checks are already required. Red flag laws are, to put it generously, on very shaky ground with regard to due process. It sends cops to deal with the mentally ill. People with untreated mental illness are 16 times more likely to be killed by law enforcement https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/state-law/50-state-summaries/licensing-state-by-state/ You don't even have to go down the list at all before you encounter states that don't require gun licenses https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/background-checks/universal-background-checks/ Only 12 states have Universal Background Checks. Don't like red flag? Fine. But make UBC and gun license requirements federal and you will save significant innocent lives, and despite your hyperbole will not cripple society in the same way slowing all cars to 20mph would. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:930449300] in Democrat c... [t:78164909]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think it would prevent most of them. Not zero, sure. "If it saves one life then it's worth doing!" I hear you say. But no, that's wrong. Lowering the speed limits to 20 MPH everywhere at all times would save lives, but we don't do that. The costs would be greater than the benefits. Gun licenses and background checks are already required. Red flag laws are, to put it generously, on very shaky ground with regard to due process. It sends cops to deal with the mentally ill. People with untreated mental illness are 16 times more likely to be killed by law enforcement</quote> https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/state-law/50-state-summaries/licensing-state-by-state/ You don't even have to go down the list at all before you encounter states that don't require gun licenses https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/background-checks/universal-background-checks/ Only 12 states have Universal Background Checks. Don't like red flag? Fine. But make UBC and gun license requirements federal and you will save significant innocent lives, and despite your hyperbole will not cripple society in the same way slowing all cars to 20mph would. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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