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TopicGame of the Decade: 2010-2019 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2
Master Moltar
04/08/20 2:48:54 PM
#385:


Round 1 Diablo III vs. Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

Moltars Analysis

The only question here is if Diablo III can do better than Mass Effect 2s 79% on Virtues Last Reward back in 2015.

I dont think so. Diablo III wasnt all that loved back when it came out, and a lot of Diablo fans turned against it. Supposedly its much better now, but who knows how many people gave it a chance later on.

Diablo is not hated enough to drop this match and VLR aint gonna be any stronger now than it was in 2015.

Moltars Bracket: Diablo III

Moltars Prediction: Diablo III 72%

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transiences Analysis

This eightpack is kind of maddening because there are 4-5 games that would have been good fits to make a run against the rest of the bracket. Diablo 3 is one of those. D3's polls are very hard to gauge because that game has been released and rereleased on every platform around over the last 5-6 years. When D3 first came out, it was a mess with things like the real money auction house and bad balance. But over time, just like all Blizzard games, it's really come into its own. The big boy console ports are really well regarded and it even came out on Switch a couple years ago. No one's voting for it for GOTY because it's been in seemingly every GOTY poll since 2012, but they were widely played and respected.

I don't think Diablo 3 is anywhere near Diablo 2 just because Diablo 2 is secretly one of the seminal games on this website. I don't have the numbers handy but I want to say that it lived in our top 100 for something like 4000 days. D3 doesn't have to be D2 to do some damage in this weak bracket though. I think enough fans respect it at this point that it's legit enough to possibly give Last of Us a match.

Its opponent is from the Zero Escape series, a series that is surprisingly popular given how niche and weird it is. I see the internet talk about Zero Escape a lot more than something like Ghost Trick which is probably its closest comparison in this bracket. VLR isn't strong by any means, but it's probably not bottom tier garbage. Its fans will back it. It's probably halfway between Ace Attorney and Ghost Trick? Something like that.

transience's prediction: Diablo 3 with 75.11%

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Leonharts Analysis

Man, if you had gone back to 2012 and said that, not only would Diablo III make the second Game of the Decade contest but it would also have a winnable match, Im not sure anyone would have believed you! This game was reviled when it first came out, but Blizzard kept improving the game over the years until the final product became something people actually enjoyed. Im sure that, like Street Fighter V (which is currently being doubled by Animal Crossing as I write this), a lot of people gave up on it before it got good, it would take a ton of anti-voting for it to lose this one. We saw both 999 and Virtues Last Reward in 2015, and they ranked near the bottom of the X-Stats. This site by and large doesnt care about point and click visual novel puzzle games that arent Phoenix Wright, and Zero Escape is no exception. Ill be curious to see just how high Diablo III can go here.

Leonharts Vote: Virtues Last Reward

Leonharts Prediction: Diablo III with 68.14%

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Kleenexs Analysis

I almost want to say the same thing I did about the first two matches today for this one, but unfortunately, I think VLR is probably too far below the line to actually make anything happen. Starcraft looked like junk, and Blizzard is not exactly riding high right now, but people do actually like Diablo III. They certainly didnt when the game first came out, but D3 has had one of the best turnarounds this side of FFXIV. Im not sure thatll translate to contest strength in any significant capacity, but it should be enough to handle a game that got quadrupled by Mass Effect 2 back when it was halfway relevant.

Kleenexs Prediction: Diablo III with 65.75%

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Guests Analysis TsunamiXXVIII

I have VLR in my bracket, but after seeing just how poorly the other VNs in this contest have done, Im resigned to the fact that Im not getting that point in Guru. It was always going to be an upset pick, anyway. But I figure that its probably going to outperform expectations, because in the wake of Danganronpa 2s hammering at the hands of RE2make, I overwhelmingly saw people saying that the Danganronpa series was still probably the second-strongest VN series, behind Ace Attorney. I was never entirely on board with that, because Zero Escapes been around longer and has had more of an impact. We only even got Zero Time Dilemma because the fans overwhelmingly campaigned for it. So on what basis is Danganronpa supposed to be stronger? The fact that it eventually got ported to the PS4 proper many years after debuting worldwide as Vita exclusiveswhich were themselves ports of the Japan-exclusive PSP games? Come on, this is PSP/PSV vs. DS/3DS. You know who wins that battle. The X-Stats support it, too; setting RE2make = RE2, VLR is expected to get 57% on DR2. So Im expecting that VLR will exceed expectations.

The only problem is, expectations are surprisingly good! Okay, yeah, there are some people in the Oracle topic picking Diablo III to put up a similar blowout to what RE2 did to DR2, but the majority of them are in the 60s, which means to be properly sure of an undercut, Id have to dip down into the 50s. There are enough big numbers, though, on the early pages that I feel like maybe Im just biased by a small sample sizebut I still feel like I need to lower my number beyond what it originally was! Was Diablo III really that hated?

I want the outright upset so badbut I refuse to be one of those Guest Pickers who signs up to take the crazy upset, and besides we need a proper Crew Curse to make this happen, so I guess Ill just lower my Oracle a few points and then undercut that by a bunch for the Crew pick to be sure of having the low pick. Not that itll matter because no one would get the point if it actually pulls it off!

Diablo III with 57% (but praying for VLR to win outright)
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Crew Consensus: Bad Ending for VLR.

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