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Topic	The All Time Guru Rankings, plus Guru of the Decade (2010-2020)
hylianknight3 04/14/20 9:23:59 AM #78:	I updated the 2010-2020 data to include the points for the 2018 finale, and I have created two tabs for adjusted performance for the decade, again with one measured relative to the contest winner and one relative to the Guru champ. That can, of course, still be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SHvaA-wSmhlnQzeZb0TxpfgK-r8aE-Vc/view?usp=sharing HaRRicH posted... Cool job, thank you for trying this out! I didn't realize how different the lists could look like in comparison, wow. I was very surprised as well! When I began, I was not sure whether or not both sets would be worth keeping, but I now believe they are. Both metrics have a valid claim to legitimacy, and at least for data nerds like ourselves, both have reason to be interesting in their own right. To sate my ego, I will use myself as an example. I am 280th as measured against the contest winner, which is worse than my lifetime Guru ranking of 251st. However, when measured against the Guru champ, I move all the way up to 49th! This has a lot to do with the 2013 and 2015 contests, in which Draven and Undertale wreaked swaths of destruction through all of our brackets, champs included. 2013 Guru champ raytan scored 64.74% on contest winner ERLiNo, while 2015 Guru champ DPOblivion scored 78.21% on contest winner Meowgoocat. Clearly being graded relative to the most successful members of our peer group, who did not see Draven and Undertale being megarallied to victory any more than the rest of us, is more forgiving than being graded relative to the contest winners, who took weird chances that paid off big time. raytan picked Draven to win one match, while DPOBlivion picked Undertale to lose in the first round! --- Kampfmaschine Advokaiser punched my lights out in the 2018 Guru. My bracket was soft... just like my heart! <cite>hylianknight3 posted [p:937371861] in The All Ti... [t:78552275]...</cite> <quote>I updated the 2010-2020 data to include the points for the 2018 finale, and I have created two tabs for adjusted performance for the decade, again with one measured relative to the contest winner and one relative to the Guru champ. That can, of course, still be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SHvaA-wSmhlnQzeZb0TxpfgK-r8aE-Vc/view?usp=sharing HaRRicH posted... </cite> <quote>Cool job, thank you for trying this out! I didn't realize how different the lists could look like in comparison, wow.</quote> I was very surprised as well! When I began, I was not sure whether or not both sets would be worth keeping, but I now believe they are. Both metrics have a valid claim to legitimacy, and at least for data nerds like ourselves, both have reason to be interesting in their own right. To sate my ego, I will use myself as an example. I am 280th as measured against the contest winner, which is worse than my lifetime Guru ranking of 251st. However, when measured against the Guru champ, I move all the way up to 49th! This has a lot to do with the 2013 and 2015 contests, in which Draven and Undertale wreaked swaths of destruction through all of our brackets, champs included. 2013 Guru champ raytan scored 64.74% on contest winner ERLiNo, while 2015 Guru champ DPOblivion scored 78.21% on contest winner Meowgoocat. Clearly being graded relative to the most successful members of our peer group, who did not see Draven and Undertale being megarallied to victory any more than the rest of us, is more forgiving than being graded relative to the contest winners, who took weird chances that paid off big time. raytan picked Draven to win one match, while DPOBlivion picked Undertale to lose in the first round! --- Kampfmaschine Advokaiser punched my lights out in the 2018 Guru. My bracket was soft... just like my heart!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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