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TopicTeddy Roosevelt was the best president.
Sephiroth C Ryu
07/08/20 1:44:18 AM
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RedPixel posted...
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Look. Scary things are happening on the left right now. But there are also scary things happening on the right as well.

One thing I don't get though. Why is it that the right tend to care about "pwning the libs" or something, when it is the DEMOCRATS who are their major opponent? Yes, I get that the basic left can be called liberal, and the basic right can be called conservative. But then, why focus on the part of the left that is still the most sane? And not, say, the stupid parts of the left, who are extremists in their own right and full of all the PC crap and such that would, while better than going full fascist, still lead to a future I would prefer to avoid?

Or did the "accepted" definitions for these terms somehow change in the past 4 years again? This happens too often.

But yeah. I guess I'm stuck in some mindset where the liberals are still the guys closer to the center, while the progressives/leftists are the ones who are actually the "alt left equivalent" of the, well, "far alt right." Don't get me wrong, I would prefer far left to far right at this time, if only because the far right's poster child is tweeting white power videos while his white house appointees and campaign seems to make no apologies for what can best be described as "far too many coincidental accidental Nazi messages for it to any longer be a coincidence" while simultaneously basically sabotaging and/or destroying just about every international ally we might have. Save, for you know, Russia, if you believe those stories, but well... if you DO believe those stories, then Trump is being "controlled" by Russia, or is at least gullible enough to just accept something from OANN, which may or may have notable Russians in some control of it.

What is the truth?

What, you think I would know?

Trump and his accomplices have been destroying watchdog after watchdog. International treaty after international treaty. And frankly, it doesn't even matter if its the former at this point. We now know what America is capable of, as does every other nation in the world. America is capable of electing someone like Trump, and then standing aside while he makes a mockery of everything that was supposed to be good about America.

Germany's leadership has already proclaimed that even if Biden wins, it won't fix things (they are probably seeing some vary scary parallels between current USA and... some of the less savory elements of their past this last century, and would prefer we not repeat history). And frankly, I feel the same. America has shown their greatest weakness. Whether it be China or Russia or just the Social Media. Or businesses for that matter, as you guys seem to love letting businesses butt into your politics really easily. The USA are very powerful, but very easily influenced, crippled, and potentially even turned around upon former allies if "need be."

You want a reason to vote against Trump? Well, if you don't care to look at the far-too-many "coincidences" that seem to easily let everyone paint his campaign as trying to recruit so far to the right that they are basically just recruiting neo-Nazis... well then, how about the fact that if he gets another 4 years, there may not even BE any first world nation willing to call themselves an ally of America any longer.

Alas, I am tired, and should rest soon. Good night, everyone.
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