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SKARDAVNELNATE 11/15/22 9:32:56 PM #49:	adjl posted... You just don't think their existence is legitimate. I still don't know what that means. Like I already posted, I haven't heard an argument that they don't exist. And as you, adgl, have said to me many times before; you're arguing against a position which no one holds. adjl posted... This frames being trans as a matter of arbitrarily choosing to join some kind of "trans club" Did you know that (at least in the US) aspects of a person such as race, sexuality, and gender are considered protected classes? This is because they are considered immutable characteristics. The individual doesn't choose to have the aspect and nothing can change that aspect. But it's not just some races. Not just a certain sexuality. Not just specific genders. They are all equally protected. Having "membership of a group" is just as protected as not having membership of that group. Now since no one had a say in being part of that group nor do have the ability do disassociate from it; I think it's best to just ignore it and treat everyone the same. adjl posted... The idea that people "choose to be trans" fundamentally misunderstands and downplays the issue at hand, and is a common element of transphobic rhetoric. That was never my argument so once again, you're arguing against a position which no one holds. adjl posted... As such, not accepting them for who they are (which is inherent in disagreeing with the fundamental concept of being trans) has significant potential to be fatal. Fine, explain my position to me. What fundamental concept of being trans do I disagree with? adjl posted... you have some responsibility to learn for yourself how people actually work and why people take issue with your behaviour In your post you brought up the kind of rhetoric. I think you've been associating my arguments with arguments you have heard before, therefore my position must be the same that past position. Right? The sentence I quoted sounds like when someone says "it's not my responsibility to educate you". So when people do make the effort to educate themselves it shouldn't be surprising when they draw their own conclusions that are different than yours. Right? --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:969457105] in The mods m... [t:80229973]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite><quote>You just don't think their existence is legitimate.</quote>I still don't know what that means. Like I already posted, I haven't heard an argument that they don't exist. And as you, adgl, have said to me many times before; you're arguing against a position which no one holds.adjl posted... </cite><quote>This frames being trans as a matter of arbitrarily choosing to join some kind of "trans club"</quote>Did you know that (at least in the US) aspects of a person such as race, sexuality, and gender are considered protected classes? This is because they are considered immutable characteristics. The individual doesn't choose to have the aspect and nothing can change that aspect. But it's not just some races. Not just a certain sexuality. Not just specific genders. They are all equally protected. Having "membership of a group" is just as protected as not having membership of that group. Now since no one had a say in being part of that group nor do have the ability do disassociate from it; I think it's best to just ignore it and treat everyone the same.adjl posted... </cite><quote>The idea that people "choose to be trans" fundamentally misunderstands and downplays the issue at hand, and is a common element of transphobic rhetoric.</quote>That was never my argument so once again, you're arguing against a position which no one holds.adjl posted... </cite><quote>As such, not accepting them for who they are (which is inherent in disagreeing with the fundamental concept of being trans) has significant potential to be fatal.</quote>Fine, explain my position to me. What fundamental concept of being trans do I disagree with?adjl posted... </cite><quote>you have some responsibility to learn for yourself how people actually work and why people take issue with your behaviour</quote>In your post you brought up the kind of rhetoric. I think you've been associating my arguments with arguments you have heard before, therefore my position must be the same that past position. Right?The sentence I quoted sounds like when someone says "it's not my responsibility to educate you". So when people do make the effort to educate themselves it shouldn't be surprising when they draw their own conclusions that are different than yours. Right? --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD.Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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