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4 turns? Yeah that's not that great really.

I feel like Alucard just dunks on them when the stuff wears off honestly. Link honestly might too. Really not getting the hype here. Like what's setting them above generic RPG protags here. What does Joshua have that puts him above say Lloyd Irving.

Well, comparing Joshua to Lloyd for a sec...

-Kratos is much weaker than Loewe, if we're comparing enemies they dueled and beat. Kratos has no feats to his name, whereas Loewe could fight and subdue the dragon Ragnard singlehandedly, who was so powerful it could casually wreck a major city if not stopped, could take on armored divisions with tanks solo and crush them, and of course clowns on the party repeatedly even while massively holding back.

-Lloyd's strongest tanking feat is taking a mega buster shot to the back. Joshua's is taking a limit break, unless you think his team found a way to no-sell it outright.

-Shadow clone jutsu stuff. They're not illusions, they're actually real and can hurt you. Lloyd has nothing that lets him be in multiple places at once.

-Just a ton of lore hype comparatively. Joshua was one of the Enforcers, agents of the evil conspiracy of the Trails world. They're also known as Legions, because each one is considered to be worth an army of regular (orbally augmented) soldiers. Though less combat focused than the other enforcers, as he specialized in guerilla tactics and espionage, he's still considered to be in their weight class, and proves it when he duels Loewe. In subsequent post-Sky series games, Joshua and Estelle also show up and casually oneshot enemies that the party is struggling with dealing with (the Zero/Azure cast is much, much more 'normal dudes' overall than Josh and Estelle are after their adventures are concluded). They also fight a gigantic mecha known as an Aion, who is capable of warping space and time singlehandedly and drive it back. Again contrasting that series' current party, it takes all of the current protagonists working together to stalemate one of them temporarily while getting super gassed, and then another mecha has to self-destruct on the enemy they're fighting to actually bring it down. The story takes pains to emphasize that Joshua and Estelle are beyond more normal characters after their own games conclude.