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TopicAm I the only one who was surprised the new Indiana Jones movie flopped?
LinkMarioSamus
08/22/23 4:18:35 AM
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GavsEvans123 posted...
I think the problem was that there wasn't a good reason for another Indiana Jones film. Crystal Skull already brought Indy back for one last adventure after a long hiatus, and people thought 15 years ago that Harrison Ford was too old to the point that suspension of disbelief was stretched. Bringing Indy back for one last adventure again, for real this time, when Harrison Ford is even older didn't appeal after Crystal Skull was poorly received.

This is like the epitome of moronic Hollywood executives. Every prior Indiana Jones movie was a top three grosser of its year domestically so why should another one be any different, they said? Like Ngamer said though Paramount is running into a similar issue with Mission: Impossible with arguably even fewer excuses since M: I has never been as big a deal comparatively.

Also, from what I've read about the new Indiana Jones movie it seems to spend basically its whole running time justifying its existence. To make matters worse, virtually every creative decision that can be seen as distancing the franchise from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has been read even by people who aren't anti-progressives as just falling into a lot of the same traps as the Star Wars sequel trilogy, such as cutting out Spielberg & Lucas (you see, they were responsible for a lot of what went wrong with Crystal Skull) despite the whole franchise being pitched on being a collaboration between them, and the general relationship between Indy and Marion being very similar to that between Han and Leia in the sequel trilogy (albeit nowhere near as grave this time since its not like their son is single-handedly responsible for the whole conflict).

On that note and not really relevant to Indy though, but considering how easy it apparently is to corrupt people to the Dark Side in Star Wars it's a wonder Luke held out for so long. I'm amazed at how I don't find the sequel trilogy to be as incongruous with the Lucas films as many seem to, but it could be because I didn't really get into Star Wars until 2018 as I've brought up many times before. For instance I don't find it that hard to believe the galaxy could fall into civil war again so fast after the original trilogy considering the entire prequel trilogy showed how incompetent government institutions seem to be in the franchise (plus real life). Then again, I feel like Anakin's characterization in the prequel trilogy undermines Luke seeing "good" in him in ROTJ even more than Luke's own characterization in the sequel trilogy does, and the ending of ROTJ never felt so final to me the way it did for many apparently. On a similar note I had no problems with Palpatine being resurrected in Rise of Skywalker, but the movie lost me immediately when it implied he had been pulling the strings all along which made no goddamn sense (and my main problem with the trilogy even before RoS was how nebulously defined the factions came off, which made it hard for me to really care about the conflict). The only movies I can think of which shot themselves in the foot so badly right away in such a fashion are Alien 3 and Black Widow.

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