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Topic	If Bernie were President, would he be polling better now?
animebop 02/28/24 6:07:23 PM #21:	Torgo posted... You'd actually be surprised at what a populist can do when they hold the presidential microphone AKA "The Bully Pulpit"...Look at how Donald Trump can get the entire conservative media and republican party infrastructure to focus on the issues he wants. Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders... it doesn't matter who has the office, they are in a position to elevate and act on key issues. Whoa, Donald Trump must have had a lot of great conservative legislation passed while he was president! The wall is like 3000 miles, right? K181 posted... No, he'd be polling worse given that he would've promised way more than Biden did and delivered way less given how divided congress is and how conservative the judiciary is. Not to mention that loads and loads and loads of moderate Dems were already looking to idiotically jump ship, so you'd better believe that a third party offshoot would've emerged siphoning at least a third of the Dem base away from him and barely denting GOP numbers. Yeah, this. If the president was a less popular (he got fewer votes) and less able president (and judging by how fucking crazy all of Bernie's campaign people are, I don't think he would have been able to navigate the senate to get even the few bills Dems have passed), would he be more or less popular? Obviously, less popular. SecretBase posted... Higher, and for a specific reason. Biden's initially high favorability was composed in part by moderates. Moderates are notoriously easy to lose. And Biden lost them when his withdrawal from Afghanistan boosted the Taliban. Then he lost progressives with his Israel policy. Bernie's supporters weren't the type to concern themselves with world policing to begin with, so the complaining would mostly come from people who were never supporting him at all. His initial favorability would remain. ironman2009 posted... Bernie would be for Palestine I'm sure. This is just complete wishcasting. Maybe Bernie's favorability would been sky high because people just project whatever they want to him. For palestine? Supporters not worried about world policing? --- Internet + video game message board = upper-middle class + never-employed = libertarian <cite>animebop posted [p:979098824] in If Bernie ... [t:80708260]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>You'd actually be surprised at what a populist can do when they hold the presidential microphone AKA "The Bully Pulpit"...Look at how Donald Trump can get the entire conservative media and republican party infrastructure to focus on the issues he wants. Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders... it doesn't matter who has the office, they are in a position to elevate and act on key issues.</quote>Whoa, Donald Trump must have had a lot of great conservative legislation passed while he was president! The wall is like 3000 miles, right?K181 posted... </cite><quote>No, he'd be polling worse given that he would've promised way more than Biden did and delivered way less given how divided congress is and how conservative the judiciary is.Not to mention that loads and loads and loads of moderate Dems were already looking to idiotically jump ship, so you'd better believe that a third party offshoot would've emerged siphoning at least a third of the Dem base away from him and barely denting GOP numbers.</quote>Yeah, this. If the president was a less popular (he got fewer votes) and less able president (and judging by how fucking crazy all of Bernie's campaign people are, I don't think he would have been able to navigate the senate to get even the few bills Dems have passed), would he be more or less popular? Obviously, less popular.SecretBase posted... </cite><quote>Higher, and for a specific reason.Biden's initially high favorability was composed in part by moderates. Moderates are notoriously easy to lose. And Biden lost them when his withdrawal from Afghanistan boosted the Taliban. Then he lost progressives with his Israel policy.Bernie's supporters weren't the type to concern themselves with world policing to begin with, so the complaining would mostly come from people who were never supporting him at all. His initial favorability would remain.</quote>ironman2009 posted... </cite><quote>Bernie would be for Palestine I'm sure.</quote>This is just complete wishcasting. Maybe Bernie's favorability would been sky high because people just project whatever they want to him. For palestine? Supporters not worried about world policing? --- Internet + video game message board = upper-middle class + never-employed = libertarian</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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