Board 8 > Survivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...

(+) Yeah! (+)

why did Grodner mess this up? Eliminator style? Now? When the minority NEEDS to win to turn the game around and make the season interesting again? Ugh.

Oh well, let's look at the bright side: I can start AUS Survivor 4 now!
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id quit but im too invested in my one true love taran armstrong
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I don't support them switching comps regardless of who is in trouble, though I also can't really trust them to 'keep the intended order' on track when it fits their agenda.

Nobody here is JeJo, Brenchel -- Marlena isn't worth pulling out the stops.
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GTM posted...

id quit but im too invested in my one true love taran armstrong

I listened to him and Rob cover like 20 hours of BB2 and it was completely worth it.

Taran is great.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

why did Grodner mess this up? Eliminator style? Now? When the minority NEEDS to win to turn the game around and make the season interesting again? Ugh.

Oh well, let's look at the bright side: I can start AUS Survivor 4 now!

What did you think of the end of 3? Iirc your last post was f6. Also season 4 is awesome so far. I am 6 boots in currently. There is one player in particular that I am now really finding myself rooting for due to epic lulz, but I seriously doubt this player will win. Jury boot? I hope so.
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will mark use the power of veto on elena!?
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GTM posted...

will mark use the power of veto on elena!?

Please no -_-
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Who says I won't still be listening to RHAP? The LFC is usually better than the actual show.

And I want the season to be interesting. Having a minority win HOH and stage a coup would make the season interesting. But nope, we have more time with the assholes and the morons. More predictable boredom.

It's not "rigging" to change the competition order. It's not guaranteeing any outcome, nor does it give Marlena a significant advantage. It just allows for an even playing field to make it so they don't have insanely long odds. The entertainment value of the rest of the season is at stake.
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They'll probably put up Raven. RIP Elena

Mark for HoH or bust.
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it's already bust!
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Omg a new TEMpTatioN twist@! This is awesome my dick is so hard I won't be able to drain blood out of on my own it's as if I got bit by one of those Brazilian spiders gotta go to the doc and get my dick cut open so I don't have to lose it to dead blood atrophy...
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Well the 3rd worst thing happened as opposed to the top two that I was thinking would happen. Mark then Kevin
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I've been avoiding this topic due to all the Big Brother posting, but thanks to whoever recommended AU Survivor. 3 episodes in and loving it so far!

So, Cody and Jessica get on the Amazing race right?
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If the new temptation twist gives America power, that should give Mark a leg up. But seeing as he's the new Cody and no one will want to work with him, who cares.
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Also I hate how there was no time to show Alex being the biggest pettiest bitch in the world this week. Exploding at Mark because he took pillows off her downstairs bed for his have not bed despite her having the whole goddamn HoH room, and exploding at Cody because she let him have her cereal and then, uh, he ate it. So so so so so so so ugh.
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yeah alex is possibly at the bottom of my rankings
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Rooting for:
1. Mark

I'd be okay with:
2. Kevin

If I have to accept someone:
3. Jason
4. Matt

http://junketdrawer.com/BB19/CodyExit.gif:
5. Paul
6. Christmas
7. Josh
8. Raven
9. Alex
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I was just reminded of the BB12 in-house podcast Britney/Ragan/Matt/Hayden (Surv: BvW) did halfway into the season. They basically tear into Brenchel. I thought it was hilarious and I had to save it... all the way back from 2010. I have the transcript. I'm gonna post it now to bring some joy to this topic. If you can read this all in their voices it's even better.

BIG BROTHER 12

Ragan: "Look, I know I do cast stones living in a glass house. I do realize that I have been farting... non-stop... I own that, I take it. I realize that some of my craps have been 'less than pleasant'. But you have to understand that this is a symptom of the slop. But have I been terrible lately?"
Brit: "No, I think that it was just the slop."
Ragan: "Right. Once I got off the slop, once I started being a 'Have', I was okay. So, I'm not above it, but there's no need on national television to talk about waking up with vomit all over yourself, clutching onto hundred dollar bills, that you just got from turning multiple tricks in Las Vegas. There's no need to discuss diarrhea coming out of your body, at a party, with a group of businessmen."
Hayden: "No. Definitely not."
Brit: "Agreed."

Hayden: "Now Brit, let's turn to you. What do you think? What's your take on the situation?"
Brit: "I think that the rule-of-thumb in the Big Brother house is just to always think "Is what I'm about to say classy or not?" And if it is not, you definitely need to rethink the statement. And even if you're gonna say something non-classy, perhaps don't just say anything that would make you look like a giant whore. You know, if you have slightly whore-ish moments that have to come out - you know, one or two accidents maybe - let's not say anything overtly obnoxious. And nobody wants to see your areolae."
Hayden: "In my opinion, you need to take the classic "'WWJD' - What Would Julie Do?" approach. If Julie Chen says "yes" - that's acceptable. If she says "let's turn to somebody else" - that's not acceptable."
Brit: "And Julie's a witty woman. You know, if a "that's what she said" or some other... sexual pun came up, that might be okay. But what we don't think is okay is when you workout in your bikini and we see you feedle-dop from behind."
Hayden: "Another 'no-no' is changing your bikini top in the spa."
Brit: "Right."
Hayden: "It's great... maybe once, but more than once? No."
Brit: "If we have to put your 'nip slips' together to create a breast online, that's... still not acceptable, but better than just exposing them flat out."
Hayden: "Back to you, Ragan."

Ragan: "I'm going to say that I think future Big Brother house guests should strictly abide by Hayden's recommended 'WWJD - What Would Julie Do?' Julie Chen would not expose her areolae in the backyard of the Big Brother house. Call me crazy, and trust me on this, as I'm somebody who Julie Chen regularly finds disgusting - especially on live shows-"
Hayden: "-I'll go in and agree on that-"
Ragan: "-Julie Chen would most definitely not wear underwear, walking around the house, with her vagina hanging out. I'm just going out on a limb here and saying that that's not Julie Chen."
Brit: "Covering your labia is always a good idea. I would say always."
Hayden: "Yeah, in most everyday situations, covering the private areas is recommended."
Brit: "Absolutely."
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Hayden: "How about going onto the next topic - the Sabo-TOE?"
Brit: "The Sabo-toe."
Hayden: "The Sabotoeee."
Brit: "Okay, before coming on Big Brother, or any other national television show, a visit to your podiatrist might be in your best interest. If you have some kind of gnarly toe problem, where your toe looks like its own brand of disease-"
Hayden: "-If your toenail is flaky, disfigured, off-color-"
Brit: "-Or obnoxiously thick-"
Hayden: "-Or looks like a broken table ornament-"
Brit: "-If it comes personally equipped with its own shield-"
Hayden: "-If it's impenetrable even by armor-piercing rounds-
Ragan: "-But really, you can solve this equation by going back to 'What Would Julie Do?' Julie Chen would cut it. Julie Chen, if that was her toenail, would probably have the entire toe removed. She would have toe-replacement surgery."
Brit: "I mean, I consider it worse than gangrene. If I were in a situation where it was 'keep that toenail or take off the whole leg'- just take it."
Hayden: "Clearly, amputate the leg in this situation."
Ragan: "Saw-style. Lock me in a room with somebody, give them the saw, and just say "the only way out of this room is to saw off the entire leg."

Hayden: "We have a guest appearance."
Matt: "What are you guys doin'?"
Brit: "We have a talk show. Do you want to come be on it?"
Matt: "What's the talk show about?"
Brit: "Rules for upcoming Big Brother house guests. Is there anything for next season that you would like to let them know?"
Matt: "I don't fully understand it. Lemme sit down here."
Brit: "Okay, just have a seat."
*Matt sits down*
Brit: "Welcome Matt!"
Matt: "Thank you, it's great to be here."
Ragan: "So we just heard that you lost your pool table title in the Big Brother house. How did that feel?"
Matt: "I did, I did. It felt horrible. I think it was unfair. I think that Big Brother's against me."
Brit: "Yeah, probably."
Ragan: "I heard that there was a small ledge you were playing on."
Matt: "There's a ledge- the pool table is catered toward people with bigger feet."
Hayden: "Let's set the stage here. Matt is the reigning, back-to-back Big Brother pool table champion. You faced off against Clint (Lane) in the final."
Matt: "I did."
Hayden: "You were clearly the favorite to win this game."
Matt: "Clint wears a size 11. I wear a size 8. I mean, that speaks for itself."

Ragan: "So we're gonna catch you up on what's been said on our talk show so you can contribute, because you are our reigning Head of Household. Our show is geared toward people who would like to be contestants on Big Brother in the future, and we're trying to give them rules, tips, things to make gameplay a little more easier for them. So Rule #1 was-"
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Brit: "-What Would Julie Chen Do?, in regards mostly to areolae, labia, discussions of tequila, vomit, stuff with one hundred dollar bills-"
Matt: "-And what have we decided?"
Ragan: "The rule is-"
Brit: "-'WWJD'-"
Ragan: "-Right. If you're in a moment where you're thinking 'Should I take out my vagina in the kitchen'- maybe stop just a moment and ask yourself "WWJD - What Would Julie Do?"
Matt: "That's good advice."
Ragan: "So do you think that Julie would expose her-"
Brit: "-Genitalia."
Matt: "I don't think Julie would do that. I think that, to a future contestant, I would say that exposing your genitalia on the kitchen table is not a sound decision."
Hayden: "That's a sound decision when you're at home with your significant other."
Matt: "Yeah. I mean, especially when you're in, like, a western region of the country, particularly. Maybe Nevada."
Brit: "Maybe Nevada."
Matt: "-ish. Generally the four corners."
Ragan: "Rule #2. If your toenail looks like this-"
Brit: "-This is intoelerable-"
Matt: "-That is toetally grotesque-"
Ragan: "If you are a saber-toed tiger, would you rather keep this toenail, or would you rather have the entire leg amputated?"
Matt: "I toen't know what I'd do in that situation."
Ragan: "You have to answer toenight."
Matt: "That's something I'll never face."

Brit: "Matt, what rules would you like to give to future Big Brother house guests?"
Ragan: "Let's get into your brain."
Matt: "Well, I think that for future Big Brother house guests, it's important to recognize that this is a social game, so you want to make sure that you're getting along with other people in the house, and that other people in the house find you affable and likable. So, when you deliver a joke, trying to make people laugh, you gotta make sure that they understand that it's a joke - so you should always have your punchline face on after telling a joke."
Brit: "Good idea. Good idea. That way we know."
Ragan: "And every joke that you tell shouldn't come from your own head, they should come from a movie like 'Old School' or 'The Cable Guy'. Really, you can make ALL your jokes come from 'The Cable Guy'. That would be great."
Brit: "That's one of the best things you could do for gameplay."
Ragan: "But be sure to punctuate your joke with a well-placed-"
Matt: "-the punchline face is key, because then other people might not know when to laugh."
Brit: "That's right. And on the same token, you may or may not experience terrible, horrific-"
Hayden: "-Intoelerable-"
Brit: "-Intoelerable jokes from your fellow house guests that are not funny and leave the entire room feeling awkward. So before you come into the house, I strongly recommend working on your fake laugh. Mine goes like this [she does a Rachel imitation]. So that when one of your house guests give you the punchline face, you can go [Rachel imitation], when really, you want to kill yourself."
Ragan: "Now this is going with the social game theme. From time to time, you may have a house guest who says something that you disagree with, but a good strategy might be - if you're trying to make friends in the house - isn't to tell them how ridiculous they are for having an opinion that's different than yours - so you may not want to say things after they express their opinion that's different than yours with an "Mhmm, I don't know, you know?"
Brit: "It's truly, again, intoelerable."
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Hayden: "To touch on another topic - when you're trying to make friends in the Big Brother house, it's great to prepare food for others; however, if you're making pancakes in the morning, feel free to leave out the garlic, oregano, parsley-"
Brit: "-Vanilla extract, crushed Fruit Loops-"
Hayden: "-Paprika, M&M's-"
Brit: "-Potatoes, diced rep peppers-"
Hayden: "-Because sometimes, people just want pancakes with syrup."
Matt: "I also think it's important to-"
Brit: "-Sautéed cloves, sliced celery, heads of lettuce, shredded mozzarella cheese-"
Matt: "-A weeks worth of chicken-"
Brit: "-A touch of yogurt-"
Ragan: "Who wants some chicken pancakes?"
Brit: "Sometimes the basics are better."

Matt: "Also, being a social game, there's oftentimes many personalities in the Big Brother house, so you have to understand that it's important to be able to relate to everyone else. So you need to always come into the house prepared with general topics of conversation that everyone can relate to, like Copernicus, or Hydrogen Ion bonds, or the Laws of Inertia. You know, things that all can converse about."
Brit: "Things that everyone can talk about."
Ragan: "Here's another gameplay move that I recommend, that gets the 'Ragan Seal of Approval'. If somebody were to compliment one of your fellow house guests - can we have an example?"
Hayden: "My, Ragan, you look good tonight-"
Ragan: "-Don't take that as an opportunity to say "Oh yeah Ragan, you do look good tonight. By the way, I was a fashion model for several years, and people used to tell me I look good all the time. In fact, in my high school, I was voted 'Most Likely to Look Good', and I'm one of the best looking people who went there, and, by the way, I used to be really into fashion-" for FORTY MINUTES LONG."
Brit: "Sometimes, it doesn't need to be all about you. And I think that one of the best tips I can personally give is when you're coming into the house, you may find it in your strategy to lie about yourself. For instance, lying about your profession. Make sure that you work on the story a few times. Because after attesting you're a swim coach, astronaut-in-training, Red Bull salesperson-"
Hayden: "-Sushi chef-"
Matt: "-Lawyer-"
Britt: "-Science curriculum writer-"
Ragan: "-Substitute teacher-"
Hayden: "-Stripper-"
Ragan: "-A barefoot marathon runner-"
Hayden: "-MacGyver-"
Brit: "-You might wanna figure out which one or two of those career paths would be best, because... at the age of 30, it'll be a little hard for your fellow house guests to believe that you have spent time dabbling in all of these many career pools. And it just makes you look like a moron."
Haydne: "Or like a genius... in Rachel's eyes."
Matt: "If you might excuse me, I have to go to my H-Toe-H room and get more water, so I'll be right back. Thanks for having me on your show."
Ragan: "Thank you!"
Brit: "Thank you Matt."
Hayden: "We'll be talking to you real soon, Matt. Feel free to come back and join the show anytime."

Ragan: "That was awesome."
Brit: "That was toe-tally awesome."
Hayden: "What's the name of the show?"
Ragan: "'Big Brother Tips'? No, it's gotta be catchier than that."
Brit: "Just The Tip'?"
Ragan: "Haha, I like it."
Brit: "Just The Tip' on Big Brother 12."
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<3 Just the Tip
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Britney is still probably my favorite BB contestant of all time.
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Pretty sure I have that transcript saved somewhere because it's so great. Thanks for posting it - it was very needed.

This season is not great at all. My rankings are nearly identical to Naomi's...
Rooting for:
1. Mark

I'd be okay with:
2. Kevin
3. Whistle-Nut

If I absolutely had to accept someone that I don't really want to:
4. Josh

Please, Grod, no:
5. DoorMatt
6. Christmas
7. Paul
8. Alex
9. Raven

5/9 of them are unacceptable winners that will permanently end my Big Brother viewership. In other words, it would truly be the last straw. Possible winners right now? Paul, with an outside chance of Josh or Whistle-Nut. Mark has a 1% shot. Everyone else has under 1% combined. It's going to be a boring, predictable five weeks, and it's highly likely that I will not even acknowledge BB20's existence aside from listening to Brent and/or Melissa ranting on the LFC roundtable podcasts.

It's also quite amazing that the Joker's poll right now has every evicted houseguest above everyone still in except Mark. Yes, Kevin is below everyone who has been evicted. Only one he's above that's not in the house is that quitter Megan. He might be above Jillian soon.
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I never thought I would have Josh in the top 4, but that list looks pretty on point. Bottom 3 are difficult to rank though because I want to have all of them in dead last -_-
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Something that they pointed out about Josh on RHAP that I found intriguing is that in his fights he always attempts to bring it back to being about the game as opposed to personal like everyone else and then he goes and apologizes and says they'll be good outside of the game. that tiny tidbit makes him better than Raven, Alex, Paul, Christmas. I don't mind Matt because he is literally nothing but a man who eats cereal.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

I never thought I would have Josh in the top 4, but that list looks pretty on point. Bottom 3 are difficult to rank though because I want to have all of them in dead last -_-

Yeah, I can't decide between the self-proclaimed Emperor of Big Brother and leader of the cult of bullies, the screaming banshee with the apropos "PETTY" hat and an insane dumb streak, and Death itself. I put all three in the "Fuck You, Frankie Grande" tier, if I had to distinguish from the other two. Even so, Christmas is such a bitch and DoorMatt is, well, a doormat, so I couldn't really stomach either of them winning as well >_>

eaedwards6400 posted...

I don't mind Matt because he is literally nothing but a man who eats cereal.

I don't dislike DoorMatt, but he's not even playing the game at all. I would strongly dislike him as a winner because of how he's being trampled over.
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KujikawaRising posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

I never thought I would have Josh in the top 4, but that list looks pretty on point. Bottom 3 are difficult to rank though because I want to have all of them in dead last -_-

Yeah, I can't decide between the self-proclaimed Emperor of Big Brother and leader of the cult of bullies, the screaming banshee with the apropos "PETTY" hat and an insane dumb streak, and Death itself. I put all three in the "Fuck You, Frankie Grande" tier, if I had to distinguish from the other two. Even so, Christmas is such a bitch and DoorMatt is, well, a doormat, so I couldn't really stomach either of them winning as well >_>

eaedwards6400 posted...

I don't mind Matt because he is literally nothing but a man who eats cereal.

I don't dislike DoorMatt, but he's not even playing the game at all. I would strongly dislike him as a winner because of how he's being trampled over.

Yeah. I'd place the 2 of them same as you did. Xmas is a bitch, but I don't dislike her to degree as the dipshits below her, and Matt is just boring as fuck and literally cannot win if he keeps doing what he's doing. He might as well be voting alphabetically and making a "super pole" because he's looking to be expended as an equally expendable cast member. Josh has his horrible moments, but is entertaining at times. I'm curious to see how he would be without enemies in the house, but that would mean Mark has to go and I don't want that. Whistle nutsack and Kevin are decent and are at least trying to play the game. They would be tolerable winners. Basically, I will be rooting for people based on how actively they try to get rid of the bottom 3.
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omg hymen
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Live feeds gonna be on in 10 mins or so.

Let's see who's won HoH...
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Peridiam posted...

Live feeds gonna be on in 10 mins or so.

Let's see who's won HoH...

Rumors say it's ...Christmas Joye..., but for we all know that might be wrong.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

Peridiam posted...

Live feeds gonna be on in 10 mins or so.

Let's see who's won HoH...

Rumors say it's ...Christmas Joye..., but for we all know that might be wrong.

Nah, it's right.

I believe noms are Matt & Jason.
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Peridiam posted...

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Peridiam posted...

Live feeds gonna be on in 10 mins or so.

Let's see who's won HoH...

Rumors say it's ...Christmas Joye..., but for we all know that might be wrong.

Nah, it's right.

I believe noms are Matt & Jason.

Jokers corroborates that. Also, Raven (Death) is pretty angry about this, even though she's not on the block! What, is she going to reap Christmas's other foot?
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Live feeds right now:
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So we're back dooring Mark? Or did Christmas actually mean it when she said she's shaking up the game?
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I feel like if Christmas was going to back door anyone, it would be Paul. She's been sowing the seeds of discontent with his influence on the game for several weeks now, and I think she knows that if it comes down to it, she is going to have to strike first.

That said, I can totally see her trying to break up major duos as well, and the two most well known house duos are Matt/Raven and Alex/Jason (even though I personally think Paul/Alex is a closer duo, but most the house don't see it).
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wow spoilers

edit: gj
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I fixed it before your post :p ... no harm no foul.
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BakusaiTenketsu posted...

I feel like if Christmas was going to back door anyone, it would be Paul. She's been sowing the seeds of discontent with his influence on the game for several weeks now, and I think she knows that if it comes down to it, she is going to have to strike first.

That said, I can totally see her trying to break up major duos as well, and the two most well known house duos are Matt/Raven and Alex/Jason (even though I personally think Paul/Alex is a closer duo, but most the house don't see it).

New temptation twist spoilers

Apparently Paul is safe this week. Mark won the power to save someone else from being nominated, and he picked Paul. Probably as a desperation move, in hopes Paul would return the favor and tell his minions to go after someone else this week. It's not like Mark actually has any friends left to protect, lol.
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I've been so busy at work that I'm incredibly far behind on this season. I haven't watched since Josh won HoH. Hopefully Kevin is still doing well.
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Veto picks: Christmas, Jason, Matt, Raven, Paul, Mark
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eaedwards6400 posted...

So we're back dooring Mark? Or did Christmas actually mean it when she said she's shaking up the game?

Mark is the backdoor target. If he wins veto, Jason is the target.
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Peridiam posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

So we're back dooring Mark? Or did Christmas actually mean it when she said she's shaking up the game?

Mark is the backdoor target. If he wins veto, Jason is the target.

And Alex/Jason are already catching on since Christmas drew HG choice and picked Raven instead of Alex.

I sooo want Alex to go off like she's wont to do, and it just completely takes the target off of Mark and Alex/Jason end up as the final nominees.
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mnkboy907 posted...

Peridiam posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

So we're back dooring Mark? Or did Christmas actually mean it when she said she's shaking up the game?

Mark is the backdoor target. If he wins veto, Jason is the target.

And Alex/Jason are already catching on since Christmas drew HG choice and picked Raven instead of Alex.

I sooo want Alex to go off like she's wont to do, and it just completely takes the target off of Mark and Alex/Jason end up as the final nominees.

the dream is for mark to mike holloway the shit out of this season somehow

paul is the rodney i guess
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If Mark wins Veto and makes a deal where he takes Whistle-Nut off and, in exchange, gets protection from him and replacement nominee Alex, that might also be epic. If Mark, Whistle-Nut, and Paul convince Josh or Kevin to vote out DoorMatt over Alex, we might have a new two-sided battle on our hands. I hope that happens because this season needs it badly.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

If Mark wins Veto and makes a deal where he takes Whistle-Nut off and, in exchange, gets protection from him and replacement nominee Alex, that might also be epic. If Mark, Whistle-Nut, and Paul convince Josh or Kevin to vote out DoorMatt over Alex, we might have a new two-sided battle on our hands. I hope that happens because this season needs it badly.

Fuck that, just let Alex go up and get her shitty ass evicted.
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Veto winner: .....Jason
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pls spoiler
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I'm legitimately struggling to decide whether this season is better or worse than BB16. Like, this season has fights and drama, but it's mostly outsiders getting shit on by the house alliance. BB16 had no drama or personality of any kind, aside from fake personalities like Zach and Frankie playing to the cameras. Derrick was a fucking abomination of a TV character, but at least he SOMEWHAT earned his victory. Paul has had this game handed to him on the back of his solo returnee status.
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