Current Events > Disney pulling movies from Netflix to start their own streaming service

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Gheb
08/08/17 6:31:31 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
I think Disney can get away with something like this because of how big of a juggernaut they are. But this is leading to a bad precedent where every company is going to be doing their own streaming service and then we're going to see a major rise in piracy.

All the company's are already starting to do it. It was the logical progression to how this market is working.

First it was really just Netflix (Hulu was really just currently running shows at the time). It offered to buy the streaming licenses for movies and shows. The various production companies, currently not making much money off of a much smaller streaming market were like sure. Since Netflix was the only real player in town they got to name the price.

Flash forward a bit and Netflix is now the hottest shit on the internet. Other companies like Amazon and Hulu look and go "we can do that too" and asks the production companies to license their stuff. They'll even pay them more than Netflix is. Bidding wars for shows begin to commence, Netflix's once vaunted library starts to shrink as it cost more money to license all the shows. This is when original content starts to come into play.

Flash forward some more and while Netflix is still king, there are several viable contenders in play. Even more noteworthy is that despite people grumbling about reduced libraries and needing multiple services, the market is still supporting all these companies and people are subscribing to multiple services. Now the producers are looking at people throwing $8-12 a month at a few services and they ask themselves, why can't we be one of those services and cut out the middle man.

The good news is that eventually the streaming bubble will pop. The supply will outpace the demand. The production companies and smaller streaming services that thought they could hang in the market will start making less money than they did streaming or lose money and things will start contracting. It'll never go back to when it was just Netflix for $8 a month and a giant selection, but people will be able to get by with only a couple of services.

Online streaming is still an infant from a media consumption perspective. It doesn't know it's own limits yet and it doesn't know the limits of it's consumers. They'll get figured out in time.
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littlebro07
08/08/17 6:34:38 PM
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Mernardi
08/08/17 6:35:36 PM
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Fuck all that. I'm not paying for multiple subs. I'll stick to Netflix and just cancel when it no longer has any good content.
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Simon_Petrikov
08/08/17 6:36:40 PM
#54:


littlebro07 posted...
What's Kodi?

Basically an app/hub for different media apps. Mostly used for illegal streaming.
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ThanksUglyGod
08/08/17 6:37:59 PM
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Pretty soon we'll need bundles for streaming services ffs
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TheVipaGTS
08/08/17 6:41:10 PM
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"My husband likes ESPN, NFL and TNT Stream. Our younger daughter has Nick and Disney Streams and our older son has MTV, WWE and Comedy Central Streams! Plus, I got Lifetime and CMT Stream for myself and for the family we have HBO Stream plus MSNBC Stream so we can keep up with the world!...and we only pay 90 bucks a month!"
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littlebro07
08/08/17 6:45:12 PM
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Simon_Petrikov posted...
littlebro07 posted...
What's Kodi?

Basically an app/hub for different media apps. Mostly used for illegal streaming.


So like a more advanced Roku?
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Crazyman93
08/08/17 7:15:59 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
Whoapro posted...
Netflix has done braindead things like remove star ratings


Why do people make sure a big deal out of this?

They're simple minded and can't decide if a show is good or not without everyone who watched it weighing in.
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I Like Toast
08/08/17 7:16:55 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Netflix needs more contenders. I wholeheartedly welcome this.

Lol
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Ivynn
08/08/17 7:25:55 PM
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At this point, you might as well go back to cable. Can't keep up with all these streaming services.
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Tmaster148
08/08/17 7:27:19 PM
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Ivynn posted...
At this point, you might as well go back to cable. Can't keep up with all these streaming services.


What's really going to happen is piracy will increase.
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iPhone_7
08/08/17 7:27:46 PM
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L0Z posted...
Tezlok posted...
Netflix is gonna eventually just have it's own originals and nothing else


So it'd basically be like HBO Go?

HBO Now

HBO Go requires an HBO subscription through a tv provider.
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YookaLaylee
08/08/17 8:04:15 PM
#63:


Tmaster148 posted...
Ivynn posted...
At this point, you might as well go back to cable. Can't keep up with all these streaming services.


What's really going to happen is piracy will increase.

There are already free streaming sites that have everything the paid services have
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TheoryzC
08/08/17 8:47:58 PM
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Netflix is a victim of its own success
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ChromaticAngel
08/08/17 8:50:36 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
L0Z posted...
Tezlok posted...
Netflix is gonna eventually just have it's own originals and nothing else


So it'd basically be like HBO Go?

HBO Now

HBO Go requires an HBO subscription through a tv provider.


Yeah I think that's right. HBO Go is "Free" but you need a cable package with HBO in it, while HBO Now is al-a-carte HBO.
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Teh_Dr_Phil
08/08/17 8:53:15 PM
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Fuck em. I'm not interested in managing a dozen different streaming services. Hard pass for me.
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Xelltrix
08/08/17 9:06:52 PM
#67:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Netflix needs more contenders. I wholeheartedly welcome this.


All this means is that we'll now have 400 different streaming services and it'll just be cable all over again instead of having one source...

I hate it.
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ninjarobot_22
08/08/17 11:41:13 PM
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How long does Disney think I'm going to stay subscribed anyway? I'll watch the movies I want to watch for like 2 months then cancel when I'm finished. Same thing with WWE network. I'm canceling once I finish watching all the classic episodes. Their pay-per-views suck anyway.
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pres_madagascar
08/09/17 1:29:51 AM
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Disney said the Netflix marvel shows will continue on Netflix "for now".
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Offworlder1
08/09/17 1:36:02 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Disney said the Netflix marvel shows will continue on Netflix "for now".


If they remove them a lot of people including me will be pissed since many got netflix mainly for Marvel tv shows. Disney is not being smart by doing this, they would be wise to keep the deal with netflix instead of trying to have their own streaming.

Most already have netflix and are not interested in other streaming services.
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EyeWontBeFooled
08/09/17 1:37:48 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Also, everyone is going to start making their own services and eventually it'll become cheaper to have cable for someone who wants a little bit of everything than it will be to pay for multiple services....hmmm...

What's old is new again, and what goes around comes around.
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pres_madagascar
08/09/17 1:39:30 AM
#72:


Offworlder1 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Disney said the Netflix marvel shows will continue on Netflix "for now".


If they remove them a lot of people including me will be pissed since many got netflix mainly for Marvel tv shows. Disney is not being smart by doing this, they would be wise to keep the deal with netflix instead of trying to have their own streaming.

Most already have netflix and are not interested in other streaming services.

Well, Netflix makes them, so if marvel pulls the license eventually, they will stop all together. But defenders is almost out, and Jessica Jones season 2 is wrapping production now too, with daredevil season 3 and punisher season 1 getting ready to shoot, followed by a now confirmed iron first season 2, so they're still goin.
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EyeWontBeFooled
08/09/17 1:44:29 AM
#73:


Balrog0 posted...
remember when it was a dvd rental service?

That wanted to buy Blockbuster Video for $50 million? Good times...
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pres_madagascar
08/09/17 1:49:44 AM
#74:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Balrog0 posted...
remember when it was a dvd rental service?

That wanted to be absorbed into Blockbuster Video for $50 million? Good times...

Other way around I believe. Pretty sure Netflix offered to buy blockbuster and they declined
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EyeWontBeFooled
08/09/17 1:50:44 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Balrog0 posted...
remember when it was a dvd rental service?

That wanted to be absorbed into Blockbuster Video for $50 million? Good times...

Other way around I believe. Pretty sure Netflix offered to buy blockbuster and they declined

Damnit, I had a feeling it was that way, too. Either way, here we are :p
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MelzezDoor
08/09/17 1:53:26 AM
#76:


littlebro07 posted...
Mother fuckers

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LockeMonster
08/09/17 2:00:02 AM
#77:


Lol, these greedy ass corporate mothetfuckers. Never know when to stop.

I don't have time to watch that much shit. So I'll just get the yearly one month trials for these services and just binge them during the free month and stick to Netflix/Hulu/Prime.
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Scorsese2002
08/09/17 11:17:24 AM
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Now Song of the South will be available for the whole family to enjoy!!!
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Xelltrix
08/09/17 11:18:24 AM
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Straight up ruined streaming tbh.
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/17 8:14:15 PM
#80:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Now Song of the South will be available for the whole family to enjoy!!!

If Song of the South is on there, along with all the stuff that's actually racist several decades later, all the WW2 propaganda shorts, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, and every-damn-thing-else, then maybe.
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