Poll of the Day > I am full anti Trump but North Korea should be invaded ASAP

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Because Japan and South Korea could be in danger of missiles or even a atomic bomb nuke if N korea has them.

Japan and South Korea are our aliens and japan also makes Anime and is the country that creates the best games, it takes the whole west to make more good games than japan but no contry alone can match them.

Also China doesn't want to protect North Korea anymore. The only reason to not invade north Korea is because we cannot defeat China in Asia, but since China is tired of them now it is our chancew
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The reason to not invade North Korea is because the entirety of Seoul will be destroyed immediately if you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul

Apparently that's about 10 million people in the city, 26 million in the surrounding area. Are you cool with that?

America invades Vietnam and uses chemical weapons in order to stop the spread of communism...

Ignores person throwing missiles at them
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I fully support trump and think this is a terrible idea.

TC is very brave for volunteering others.
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I would support a joint USA-China invasion, if it also included an evacuation of Seoul and other northern parts of South Korea. The U.S. just going it alone, I'm not a big fan of.
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dragon504 posted...

evacuation of Seoul

What? You can't evacuate 26 million people. Even if that were possible, North Korea would notice you doing that and launch missiles immediately. They're insane, not stupid.

Or take the less costly route, offer their top 50 generals free travel anywhere in the world and a billion dollars to make sure north korea disbands and gives itself up to south korean rule. They will get something done.
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SushiSquid posted...

The reason to not invade North Korea is because the entirety of Seoul will be destroyed immediately if you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul

Apparently that's about 10 million people in the city, 26 million in the surrounding area. Are you cool with that?

How?

I mean yea it makes sense for North Korea to pick the capital city of their closest enemy as a target but how would North Korea destroy the "entirety" of Seoul? The south has people guarding the boarder, and any missiles are going to be noticed long before they hit their target (if they even do, North Korea hasn't even shown they can fire a missile far enough to hit Seoul). At best they will cause some serious damage, but no way will they entirely destroy Seoul.
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Dikitain posted...

SushiSquid posted...

The reason to not invade North Korea is because the entirety of Seoul will be destroyed immediately if you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul

Apparently that's about 10 million people in the city, 26 million in the surrounding area. Are you cool with that?

How?

I mean yea it makes sense for North Korea to pick the capital city of their closest enemy as a target but how would North Korea destroy the "entirety" of Seoul? The south has people guarding the boarder, and any missiles are going to be noticed long before they hit their target (if they even do, North Korea hasn't even shown they can fire a missile far enough to hit Seoul). At best they will cause some serious damage, but no way will they entirely destroy Seoul.

Do you not watch the news?

Cacciato posted...

Dikitain posted...

SushiSquid posted...

The reason to not invade North Korea is because the entirety of Seoul will be destroyed immediately if you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul

Apparently that's about 10 million people in the city, 26 million in the surrounding area. Are you cool with that?

How?

I mean yea it makes sense for North Korea to pick the capital city of their closest enemy as a target but how would North Korea destroy the "entirety" of Seoul? The south has people guarding the boarder, and any missiles are going to be noticed long before they hit their target (if they even do, North Korea hasn't even shown they can fire a missile far enough to hit Seoul). At best they will cause some serious damage, but no way will they entirely destroy Seoul.

Do you not watch the news?

That's not an answer.
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Afaik, NK has assloads of artillery emplacements aimed at Seoul.
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Dikitain posted...

Cacciato posted...

Dikitain posted...

SushiSquid posted...

The reason to not invade North Korea is because the entirety of Seoul will be destroyed immediately if you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul

Apparently that's about 10 million people in the city, 26 million in the surrounding area. Are you cool with that?

How?

I mean yea it makes sense for North Korea to pick the capital city of their closest enemy as a target but how would North Korea destroy the "entirety" of Seoul? The south has people guarding the boarder, and any missiles are going to be noticed long before they hit their target (if they even do, North Korea hasn't even shown they can fire a missile far enough to hit Seoul). At best they will cause some serious damage, but no way will they entirely destroy Seoul.

Do you not watch the news?

That's not an answer.

I'm just not understanding how you think they can't hit Seoul.

I guess I figured it was general knowledge that:
dragon504 posted...

NK has assloads of artillery emplacements aimed at Seoul.

Cacciato posted...

Dikitain posted...

Cacciato posted...

Dikitain posted...

SushiSquid posted...

The reason to not invade North Korea is because the entirety of Seoul will be destroyed immediately if you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul

Apparently that's about 10 million people in the city, 26 million in the surrounding area. Are you cool with that?

How?

I mean yea it makes sense for North Korea to pick the capital city of their closest enemy as a target but how would North Korea destroy the "entirety" of Seoul? The south has people guarding the boarder, and any missiles are going to be noticed long before they hit their target (if they even do, North Korea hasn't even shown they can fire a missile far enough to hit Seoul). At best they will cause some serious damage, but no way will they entirely destroy Seoul.

Do you not watch the news?

That's not an answer.

I'm just not understanding how you think they can't hit Seoul.

I am not arguing that they can't hit Seoul, I am arguing that they can "entirely destroy" Seoul. Nothing outside of a hydrogen bomb can do that and North Korea certainly doesn't have one of those.
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I always knew those Japanese weren't human. Glad to see someone else sees they're aliens too.

How would invading help the situation?

Something needs to be done but NK is basically holding Japan and SK hostage(now Guam as well). Hundreds of thousands if not millions would die including many Americans stationed overseas.
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Guys South Korea has a THAAD and AEGIS. Japan and US also have AEGIS.

Fun fact, I work on AEGIS =)
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AwesomeTurtwig posted...

Guys South Korea has a THAAD and AEGIS. Japan and US also have AEGIS.

Fun fact, I work on AEGIS =)

Pretend I don't know what an AEGIS is

Did you do a good job on it?
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That was literally the exact justification for the war in Iraq. None of these wars are necessary. It's fear mongering used to pump up the military industrial complex. If you want proof, look at the effect on Lockheed Martin's share prices since yesterday. We are killing millions so that a few wealthy people can become marginally wealthier. It's a sham, don't buy it
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Mead posted...

AwesomeTurtwig posted...

Guys South Korea has a THAAD and AEGIS. Japan and US also have AEGIS.

Fun fact, I work on AEGIS =)

Pretend I don't know what an AEGIS is

Did you do a good job on it?

It's the at sea anti air and ballistic missile combat system installed on Destroyers and Cruisers, and sometimes at land based sites.
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Mead posted...

How would invading help the situation?

Something needs to be done but NK is basically holding Japan and SK hostage(now Guam as well). Hundreds of thousands if not millions would die including many Americans stationed overseas.

The question to be asked, and it's a big one, is what does the future hold? Doing nothing could be just a less serious second Cold War. On the other hand, a war could be inevitable. Do you risk 1-2 million lives in a pre-emptive attack and shorter war or wait until everybody's at their strongest and have a meat-grinder that ultimately results in way more death all-around and takes longer to resolve? If France and Britain had called Hitler's bluff with the remilitarization of the Rhineland, WWII would've probably just been Europe building a wall to keep Stalin out (with or without toppling the Nazi regime, depending how the confrontation went) and the Japanese being forced to chill the fuck out by a united west they couldn't hope to fight.
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North Korea possessing nuclear weapons is 1) nothing new and 2) a bargaining chip. they aren't actually going to USE those weapons, because they know they would be obliterated within the hour if they did. What's more likely is they sell that technology to Al-Qaeda or ISIS, or another country like Iran.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Mead posted...

How would invading help the situation?

Something needs to be done but NK is basically holding Japan and SK hostage(now Guam as well). Hundreds of thousands if not millions would die including many Americans stationed overseas.

The question to be asked, and it's a big one, is what does the future hold? Doing nothing could be just a less serious second Cold War. On the other hand, a war could be inevitable. Do you risk 1-2 million lives in a pre-emptive attack and shorter war or wait until everybody's at their strongest and have a meat-grinder that ultimately results in way more death all-around and takes longer to resolve? If France and Britain had called Hitler's bluff with the remilitarization of the Rhineland, WWII would've probably just been Europe building a wall to keep Stalin out (with or without toppling the Nazi regime, depending how the confrontation went) and the Japanese being forced to chill the fuck out by a united west they couldn't hope to fight.

I'm still not sure how an invasion would help matters, given the size of their army
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The loss of life in a boots in the ground invasion of North Korea would be catastrophic.

Mead posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Mead posted...

How would invading help the situation?

Something needs to be done but NK is basically holding Japan and SK hostage(now Guam as well). Hundreds of thousands if not millions would die including many Americans stationed overseas.

The question to be asked, and it's a big one, is what does the future hold? Doing nothing could be just a less serious second Cold War. On the other hand, a war could be inevitable. Do you risk 1-2 million lives in a pre-emptive attack and shorter war or wait until everybody's at their strongest and have a meat-grinder that ultimately results in way more death all-around and takes longer to resolve? If France and Britain had called Hitler's bluff with the remilitarization of the Rhineland, WWII would've probably just been Europe building a wall to keep Stalin out (with or without toppling the Nazi regime, depending how the confrontation went) and the Japanese being forced to chill the fuck out by a united west they couldn't hope to fight.

I'm still not sure how an invasion would help matters, given the size of their army

Their army is big but awful, it would be like the Conquistadors versus the Aztecs. The DPRK's military would be obliterated like Zapp Brannigan's troops going wave after wave into the Killbots... They'd get in a sucker punch with their artillery, then just crumble. Desertion would be extremely high as well. Stalinist-style regimes only foster loyalty until that person no longer fears for their life. Past that point, it's surrender and have a meal. Air and naval superiority would clear the way and ground forces would be on mop-up duty. This isn't like Iraq where many factions are vying for their own version of independence. This is an "old school" nation.
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It would be amusing if China or Russia decided to invade them first.

I mean, really. Why not? The rest of the modern world seems to despise North Korea, so its not like the USA or the UN or the EU or anyone would take NK's side.
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SushiSquid posted...

The reason to not invade North Korea is because the entirety of Seoul will be destroyed immediately if you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul

Apparently that's about 10 million people in the city, 26 million in the surrounding area. Are you cool with that?

i mean, if north korea is as unhinged as they seem, they could likely end up doing that anyway.
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yourDaddie posted...

Because Japan and South Korea could be in danger of missiles or even a atomic bomb nuke if N korea has them.

that's precisely why we need to let them be. the US needs to stop provoking at the border or something really bad could happen
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The reason nobody does anything about North Korea is because of China.

China keeps North Korea around so people have someone else to think of when they think of that "evil communist government".

Every country's government knows why China keeps North Korea around and plays along because you don't piss off China.
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TigerTycoon posted...

The reason nobody does anything about North Korea is because of China.

China keeps North Korea around so people have someone else to think of when they think of that "evil communist government".

Every country's government knows why China keeps North Korea around and plays along because you don't piss off China.

Pretty sure China keeps NK around because they do a ton of trade with them.
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Tc's family should fund this war and he be sent to the front lines. Wars are not cheap and most of America's wars were not justified except for like 1-2 of them throughout its history.
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I want a resolution that does not endanger any Americans or South Koreans .

OmegaTomHank posted...

I want a resolution that does not endanger any Americans or South Koreans .

Pretty sure that's impossible
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JF7X posted...

OmegaTomHank posted...

I want a resolution that does not endanger any Americans or South Koreans .

Pretty sure that's impossible

Not if we send s popular talk show host and his fat never funny friend over to the country to interview him w a strip of ricin.
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Safest way is probably some sort of regime change or coup.

I want to say that stopping all trade and starving the country is best but North Koreans already have terrible lives.

Who was it that said civilization was only a few missed meals? Maybe he didn't know about NK?

JF7X posted...

OmegaTomHank posted...

I want a resolution that does not endanger any Americans or South Koreans .

Pretty sure that's impossible

Yeah, that requires the DPRK not existing.
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Mead posted...

TigerTycoon posted...

The reason nobody does anything about North Korea is because of China.

China keeps North Korea around so people have someone else to think of when they think of that "evil communist government".

Every country's government knows why China keeps North Korea around and plays along because you don't piss off China.

Pretty sure China keeps NK around because they do a ton of trade with them.

Actually they keep NK around because if NK opens up their boarder and let refugees out, the first place they would go is China. The last thing an overcrowded country needs is millions of refugees flooding their boarder.
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yourDaddie posted...

Because Japan and South Korea could be in danger of missiles or even a atomic bomb nuke if N korea has them.

Japan and South Korea are our aliens and japan also makes Anime and is the country that creates the best games, it takes the whole west to make more good games than japan but no contry alone can match them.

Also China doesn't want to protect North Korea anymore. The only reason to not invade north Korea is because we cannot defeat China in Asia, but since China is tired of them now it is our chancew

The big problem with North Korea is Russia and China. Both are allies with NK and share a border, both do not want a US ally next door.

Now with China thankfully they are quite close with the US and I think they like the financial benefits of world wide trade than the trade they do with NK.

Russia however I am not so sure, and who knows what Putin will do if the US did invade NK.

The North Korea problem is not one so easily solved.

Babbit55 posted...

yourDaddie posted...

Because Japan and South Korea could be in danger of missiles or even a atomic bomb nuke if N korea has them.

Japan and South Korea are our aliens and japan also makes Anime and is the country that creates the best games, it takes the whole west to make more good games than japan but no contry alone can match them.

Also China doesn't want to protect North Korea anymore. The only reason to not invade north Korea is because we cannot defeat China in Asia, but since China is tired of them now it is our chancew

The big problem with North Korea is Russia and China. Both are allies with NK and share a border, both do not want a US ally next door.

Now with China thankfully they are quite close with the US and I think they like the financial benefits of world wide trade than the trade they do with NK.

Russia however I am not so sure, and who knows what Putin will do if the US did invade NK.

The North Korea problem is not one so easily solved.

Russia is nothing anymore @Babbit55 their economiy is the size of italy.... they act big but they are much smaller that thet pretend to be. USA or China would stomp them and Germany, Japan and the UK could beat them if they invested more on military
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I am curious how what would be done to the North Korean civilians after the dust settles. Even if South Korea was not roughed up after the fighting do they want to take care of their fellow Koreans up north and take the financial burden. Who else will partake in this humanitarian effort?
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We should just get China to refuse to trade with NK unless they get rid of their nukes.
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Zareth posted...

We should just get China to refuse to trade with NK unless they get rid of their nukes.

That is pretty much what is currently happening.

yourDaddie posted...

Because Japan and South Korea could be in danger of missiles or even a atomic bomb nuke if N korea has them.

Japan and South Korea are our aliens and japan also makes Anime and is the country that creates the best games, it takes the whole west to make more good games than japan but no contry alone can match them.

Also China doesn't want to protect North Korea anymore. The only reason to not invade north Korea is because we cannot defeat China in Asia, but since China is tired of them now it is our chancew

Will you be on the front lines TC?
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Zareth posted...

We should just get China to refuse to trade with NK unless they get rid of their nukes.

They've already stopped importing coal from North Korea. I wouldn't be surprise if they go further.

Jiggy101011 posted...

Will you be on the front lines TC?

I do wonder about this. Of all the folks who are pro-war or suggest we should go in and kick someone's arse, are they veterans or will they be willing to enlist to be the one kicking arse if physically able?
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The Rothschilds want a central bank in North Korea. They enjoy watching us laugh at Kim for being a hangry pig, so they exploit it on the media. They've infiltrated the U.S. in many ways, including the federal reserve which is a MASSIVE scam to get rich off of taxpayers.

The worst kind of slavery is when the "slaves" (us) believe that they are truly free.

The ONLY 3 countries they don't already have a central banking systems in are North Korea, Iran, and Cuba. In ~2001, there were 7. Afghanistan and Lybia were two of them. (Sound familiar? Remember the Bush era? There are MANY reasons to believe 9/11 was a false flag operation.)

Not saying N.K. isn't dangerous, but the U.S. is slowly becoming the unstoppable global threat. Just look at the fucking military budget. Republicans are being used like pawns. When democrats are in office, they exploit that, too, in different ways. It's all a massive distraction.

Congress is Hollywood.

They give people the illusion of power by letting them vote. Wake the hell up, guys. EVERY election is giant douche versus turd sandwich. REAL people presidents end up assassinated. Look at what happened to Kennedy.
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It probably seems like I just jumped a bunch of different topics in one post, but in all seriousness it all becomes part of one big, complicated (yet simple) plan the more you research that type of crap. It's all connected... something sinister.
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RedPixel isn't wrong, as crazy as that sounded.
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Conner4REAL posted...

Not if we send s popular talk show host and his fat never funny friend over to the country to interview him w a strip of ricin.

An assassination plan on the leader? So lets assume it works and the North Korean regime loses its figurehead, what then?
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