Poll of the Day > This was the 32 y/o Girl MURDERED by a 20 y/o REPUBLICAN Kid in Virginia!!!

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mrduckbear
08/13/17 1:08:23 PM
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Do you think this was a 1st degree or 2nd degree murder?




32 y/o Heather Heyer was the girl mowed down and killed by 20 y/o Republican White Supremacist, James Alex Fields Jr from Maumee, Ohio

Heather was protesting at the rally in Charlottesville when James sped his car into the counter protest crowd against the Alt-Right rally

James has now been charged with second degree murder as Democrats AND Republicans, including Ted Cruz said there should be federal hate crime charges against him and have slammed Trump for not denouncing this as a domestic terrorism hate crime event

Heather's mother was heartbroken over the news and wrote "She died doign what was right. My heart is borken, but i am forever proud of her". Thousands have labelled heather a Hero for standing up to racism

She was a paralegal with the Miller Law Group PC in Virginia as she was passionate on social justice..her final FB post said "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"

She was also a stringent Bernie Sanders supporter

Candlelit vigils will be held around the country for Heather and the 19 people injured in the attack

Video of the event shows a Dodge Challenger speeding down a street with people jumping out of the way and hitting the crowds. The tinted car then backed up trying to get away before he was finally taken down

The violent clashes between KKK groups and anti-fascist groups caused a State of Emergency in the state as the Governer told the racists to leave the state

Pictures are also emerging showing James marching with a racist right-wing group Vanguard America who opposes multiculturism and believes America is ane exclusively white country.

The racists were protesting over the removal of the statue Robert E Lee and demand their "heritage" be brought back to the state.

James Mother, Samantha Bloom allegedly said her son was attending a rally for Trump and not for white supremacists as she said she doesn't get involved with her son's politics and truly believed he was only protesting and not to cause harm.

Samantha said "I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump's not a white nationalist....."

James sent a text to her that night to say he dropped off the cat at her apartment to go to the alt-right rally and when she returned home from dinner, she learned her son had been a murderer..

Do you think this was a 1st or 2nd degree murder?.

Heather - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/4337BD4000000578-4786318-image-a-9_1502624868484.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/4337BD4400000578-4786318-image-m-8_1502624864125.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/4337BD3A00000578-4786318-image-m-22_1502625257528.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/4337BD4D00000578-4786318-image-m-24_1502625282434.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/4337BD5200000578-4786318-image-a-21_1502625253791.jpg

James - Racist Killer

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/433642FA00000578-4785732-James_Alex_Fields_Jr_far_left_with_glasses_of_Maumee_Ohio_was_ar-a-1_1502623265912.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/43365BEE00000578-4785732-Fields_pictured_next_to_the_Challenger_was_apprehended_and_is_cu-a-5_1502623266457.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/4335EB9700000578-4785732-James_Alex_Fields_Jr_pictured_of_Maumee_Ohio-a-2_1502623265951.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/13/12/4335D0A700000578-4785732-According_to_the_jail_s_superintendent_Martin_Kumer_Fields_was_a-a-72_1502623271370.jpg

His ugly car -

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Benedine
08/13/17 1:10:22 PM
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32 y/o Girl
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BlackScythe0
08/13/17 1:21:31 PM
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mrduckbear posted...

Samantha said "I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump's not a white nationalist....."


Well, she learned her lesson.
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Zeus
08/13/17 1:33:12 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
James has now been charged with second degree murder as Democrats AND Republicans, including Ted Cruz said there should be federal hate crime charges against him and have slammed Trump for not denouncing this as a domestic terrorism hate crime event


Literally not a hate crime. In fact, no matter how you stretch the definition, you can't get there because you have a white victim and a white perp who hated non-whites.

mrduckbear posted...
She was a paralegal with the Miller Law Group PC in Virginia as she was passionate on social justice..her final FB post said "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"


So she was also an extremist? tbh, the problem with society nowadays is too much extremism which leads to ridiculous protests where fired up morons promote violence against other fired-up morons then morons on the other side see that and decide to take things even further. Even this most recent protest resulted from other protests.
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BlackScythe0
08/13/17 1:36:02 PM
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Zeus posted...
mrduckbear posted...
James has now been charged with second degree murder as Democrats AND Republicans, including Ted Cruz said there should be federal hate crime charges against him and have slammed Trump for not denouncing this as a domestic terrorism hate crime event


Literally not a hate crime. In fact, no matter how you stretch the definition, you can't get there because you have a white victim and a white perp who hated non-whites.


Which would be valid if she was the singular target. She just happened to be the one who died.
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Zeus
08/13/17 1:37:12 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
mrduckbear posted...

Samantha said "I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump's not a white nationalist....."


Well, she learned her lesson.


And your ridiculous attitude is exactly why white nationalism has been allowed to spread. By labeling EVERYBODY you disagree with as a white nationalist, the guys you libel and slander are less likely to take the white nationalist label seriously. And, by promoting violence against whites, you've given these fuckers fuel. And, by trying to push anarchy and unrest in American society, you've created chaos and that chaos has been a ladder for all sorts of shit.
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BlackScythe0
08/13/17 2:18:02 PM
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Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
mrduckbear posted...

Samantha said "I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump's not a white nationalist....."


Well, she learned her lesson.


And your ridiculous attitude is exactly why white nationalism has been allowed to spread. By labeling EVERYBODY you disagree with as a white nationalist, the guys you libel and slander are less likely to take the white nationalist label seriously. And, by promoting violence against whites, you've given these fuckers fuel. And, by trying to push anarchy and unrest in American society, you've created chaos and that chaos has been a ladder for all sorts of shit.


lol, hey guys my sarcastic comment is promoting violence against whites.
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Duck-I-Says
08/13/17 2:24:22 PM
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Benedine posted...
32 y/o Girl
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Came here to say this
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SunWuKung420
08/13/17 2:27:35 PM
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It's a white-on-white hate crime. He hated those that don't like his hate-filled rhetoric then ran them over in a hate-filled rage. Seems pretty hateful to me.

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ClarkDuke
08/13/17 2:35:30 PM
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Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
mrduckbear posted...

Samantha said "I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump's not a white nationalist....."


Well, she learned her lesson.


And your ridiculous attitude is exactly why white nationalism has been allowed to spread. By labeling EVERYBODY you disagree with as a white nationalist, the guys you libel and slander are less likely to take the white nationalist label seriously. And, by promoting violence against whites, you've given these fuckers fuel. And, by trying to push anarchy and unrest in American society, you've created chaos and that chaos has been a ladder for all sorts of shit.

You sound insane, ok?
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TheCyborgNinja
08/13/17 3:38:37 PM
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Second degree murder. It doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.
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Zeus
08/13/17 4:10:37 PM
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Duck-I-Says posted...
Benedine posted...
32 y/o Girl
32 y/o Girl
32 y/o Girl
32 y/o Girl


Came here to say this


She's still a SJW so she hasn't matured into a woman yet.

SunWuKung420 posted...
It's a white-on-white hate crime. He hated those that don't like his hate-filled rhetoric then ran them over in a hate-filled rage. Seems pretty hateful to me.

INB4zeusdefendshisactions


Literally not how hate crimes work. Following that line of "logic" anybody who shoots their ex before they hate them should be charged with a hate crime.

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argonautweakend
08/13/17 4:22:42 PM
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no folks, obviously it is not okay to run people over just because they are in the streets.

if so the body count every time i go downtown before a baseball game(huge throng of people crossing the street even though there is no walk arrow and i have the green light) would be astronomical
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Erik_P
08/13/17 4:35:46 PM
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Zeus is so fucking pathetic. He's now defending Nazis. You just prove how evil you are the more you talk.

And the fact you think a white on white crime can't be a hate crime is insane.

Shame you can't see this post because you have me on ignore like the gutless coward white supremacist that you are.
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SushiSquid
08/13/17 4:50:20 PM
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Zeus, if you're going to literally take the side of fucking Nazis, just get the fuck out. This shit is sick and you look insane doing this. Stop.
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BlackScythe0
08/13/17 4:57:26 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Zeus is so fucking pathetic. He's now defending Nazis. You just prove how evil you are the more you talk.

And the fact you think a white on white crime can't be a hate crime is insane.

Shame you can't see this post because you have me on ignore like the gutless coward white supremacist that you are.


But it was clearly a targeted attack on this one person!
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dioxxys
08/13/17 5:08:36 PM
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SushiSquid posted...
Zeus, if you're going to literally take the side of fucking Nazis, just get the fuck out. This shit is sick and you look insane doing this. Stop.

Zeus never took the side of a nazi, he just said that calling everyone a white supremacists is causing the definition to be watered down so when theres an actual white supremacist no one takes it seriously. Its the "cry wolf" thing.

Also he said something about how it wasnt a hate crime but he is still not defending the killer.

Eriks the one who claimed he was defending a nazi
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Zeus
08/13/17 6:35:33 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Zeus never took the side of a nazi, he just said that calling everyone a white supremacists is causing the definition to be watered down so when theres an actual white supremacist no one takes it seriously. Its the "cry wolf" thing.


This, plus it's largely created these problems since when you label almost half the country deplorable and such, all of the people wrongly labeled are more likely to assume that others -- guys with really awful views -- have also been mischaracterized.

dioxxys posted...
Also he said something about how it wasnt a hate crime but he is still not defending the killer.


To clarify on the previous, here's the definition of a hate crime:
Defining a Hate Crime

A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.

These efforts serve as a backstop for investigations by state and local authorities, which handle the vast majority of hate crime cases throughout the country.


https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crimes

The attack fails to meet the criteria for a hate crime because political and social views aren't a protected class.
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Erik_P
08/13/17 6:39:14 PM
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dioxxys posted...
SushiSquid posted...
Zeus, if you're going to literally take the side of fucking Nazis, just get the fuck out. This shit is sick and you look insane doing this. Stop.

Zeus never took the side of a nazi, he just said that calling everyone a white supremacists is causing the definition to be watered down so when theres an actual white supremacist no one takes it seriously. Its the "cry wolf" thing.

Also he said something about how it wasnt a hate crime but he is still not defending the killer.

Eriks the one who claimed he was defending a nazi


Hahahahaha

Your explanation isn't any better. The Unite the Right rally was all about white supremacists. That's who was there. Trying to claim we shouldn't say what they are because of your dumb fuck logic doesn't change that they're fucking white supremacists.
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waterdeepchu
08/13/17 6:42:33 PM
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I'm not sure if he planned to do it ahead of time. He did do it intentionally, with the goal of harming or even killing people. But until more information comes out, Ill have to go with 2nd degree murder.
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Syntheticon
08/13/17 9:14:43 PM
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Zeus posted...
mrduckbear posted...
James has now been charged with second degree murder as Democrats AND Republicans, including Ted Cruz said there should be federal hate crime charges against him and have slammed Trump for not denouncing this as a domestic terrorism hate crime event


Literally not a hate crime. In fact, no matter how you stretch the definition, you can't get there because you have a white victim and a white perp who hated non-whites.

mrduckbear posted...
She was a paralegal with the Miller Law Group PC in Virginia as she was passionate on social justice..her final FB post said "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"


So she was also an extremist? tbh, the problem with society nowadays is too much extremism which leads to ridiculous protests where fired up morons promote violence against other fired-up morons then morons on the other side see that and decide to take things even further. Even this most recent protest resulted from other protests.

Aaaand this is the post that finally got your trolling ass blocked. Normally you're amusingly ridiculous but I'm starting to think you're actually this deranged.
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Zeus
08/13/17 9:20:51 PM
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Syntheticon posted...
Zeus posted...
mrduckbear posted...
James has now been charged with second degree murder as Democrats AND Republicans, including Ted Cruz said there should be federal hate crime charges against him and have slammed Trump for not denouncing this as a domestic terrorism hate crime event


Literally not a hate crime. In fact, no matter how you stretch the definition, you can't get there because you have a white victim and a white perp who hated non-whites.

mrduckbear posted...
She was a paralegal with the Miller Law Group PC in Virginia as she was passionate on social justice..her final FB post said "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"


So she was also an extremist? tbh, the problem with society nowadays is too much extremism which leads to ridiculous protests where fired up morons promote violence against other fired-up morons then morons on the other side see that and decide to take things even further. Even this most recent protest resulted from other protests.

Aaaand this is the post that finally got your trolling ass blocked. Normally you're amusingly ridiculous but I'm starting to think you're actually this deranged.


Considering I've had you pegged as a troll alt for about a month now and had seriously considered blocking you, this will be a happy reciprocation. If only some of the other trolls I have blocked would return the favor by blocking me.
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faramir77
08/13/17 9:22:45 PM
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This was obviously second degree murder, but hate crime/terrorism charges absolutely should be laid against this disgusting rich entitled little shit stain.
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Zeus
08/13/17 9:39:55 PM
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faramir77 posted...
but hate crime/terrorism charges absolutely should be laid against this disgusting rich entitled little shit stain.


Arbitrary application of the law defeats the point of having a legal system. It clearly doesn't qualify as a hate crime by any reasonable definition of hate crime legislation and a wrongful application would only make the situation worse. I'm not sure whether it could actually be classified as terrorism although it really doesn't seem like terrorism. As for the claims of him being rich or entitled, I'm not where that's coming from -- just the fact that he's white? -- because he's the child of a single mom who, instead of going to college like almost 70% of the US population, had enrolled in the military. As such, he hardly sounds rich or privileged, he sounds lower-middle-class or worse off.

In general, you don't need special charges. Just give him the normal sentence, which should be more than enough considering he'll probably get time for the murder and then one count of assault for each person he hit who didn't die.
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ClarkDuke
08/14/17 2:41:28 PM
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Zeus changed forms into a lawyer, ok?
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Zareth
08/14/17 2:46:05 PM
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Come now duckbear, there's no need for you to be bashing the Dodge Charger.
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yourDaddie
08/14/17 2:55:14 PM
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@Benedine at what age are they called women instead of girls anymore?
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Nade Duck
08/14/17 3:16:01 PM
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hate crime is a stupid fuckin concept anyway. there was clearly nothing but hate involved in this.
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Benedine
08/14/17 3:18:43 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
@Benedine at what age are they called women instead of girls anymore?

18-21
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BlackScythe0
08/14/17 5:23:26 PM
#30:


ClarkDuke posted...
Zeus changed forms into a lawyer, ok?


He has multiple realities he can change to.
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ClarkDuke
08/14/17 5:29:59 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Zeus changed forms into a lawyer, ok?


He has multiple realities he can change to.

I can't wait for the reality where he's intelligent.
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BlackScythe0
08/15/17 2:46:17 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Zeus changed forms into a lawyer, ok?


He has multiple realities he can change to.

I can't wait for the reality where he's intelligent.


Less fun to act rational I guess.
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faramir77
08/15/17 4:29:19 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
hate crime is a stupid fuckin concept anyway. there was clearly nothing but hate involved in this.


How is "hate crime" a stupid concept?

Consider two scenarios. Scenario A, someone who happens to be Jewish finds graffiti on their fence. Scenario B, someone who happens to be Jewish finds Nazi graffiti on their fence along with "down with Zionism" or some stupid slogan.

Are you saying these two scenarios should be treated the same?
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dioxxys
08/16/17 5:20:38 AM
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faramir77 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
hate crime is a stupid fuckin concept anyway. there was clearly nothing but hate involved in this.


How is "hate crime" a stupid concept?

Consider two scenarios. Scenario A, someone who happens to be Jewish finds graffiti on their fence. Scenario B, someone who happens to be Jewish finds Nazi graffiti on their fence along with "down with Zionism" or some stupid slogan.

Are you saying these two scenarios should be treated the same?

The point is that maybe the first graffiti is from a neighbor who hates them, no they didnt do it because they were jewish but they still hate them but its not a hate crime but a crime fueled by hate.

(lol)
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faramir77
08/16/17 11:46:10 AM
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dioxxys posted...
faramir77 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
hate crime is a stupid fuckin concept anyway. there was clearly nothing but hate involved in this.


How is "hate crime" a stupid concept?

Consider two scenarios. Scenario A, someone who happens to be Jewish finds graffiti on their fence. Scenario B, someone who happens to be Jewish finds Nazi graffiti on their fence along with "down with Zionism" or some stupid slogan.

Are you saying these two scenarios should be treated the same?

The point is that maybe the first graffiti is from a neighbor who hates them, no they didnt do it because they were jewish but they still hate them but its not a hate crime but a crime fueled by hate.

(lol)


Best part about that is I honestly believe some people are stupid enough to think that's what "hate crime" means.

Thinking that "hate crime" shouldn't be a possible charge is ignorant. They'll often defend their position by saying that it somehow threatens free speech.

It's already law pretty much everywhere that you're not allowed to utter threats of violence towards others. Is that a violation of free speech that they think should be legalized? The concept of "hate crime" is the same. Nobody deserves to have their rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness threatened by ignorant assholes in their community. That's precisely where the line is drawn when it comes to free speech.
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