Board 8 > I'm bored, name anything in Fire Emblem and I'll give my top 5 for it

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fedorafreak
12/01/17 1:32:51 PM
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Great lists so far.

Archetypes.
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Kenri
12/01/17 6:03:43 PM
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Eerieka posted...
You're good, I just meant guys in general you thought were hot + make for good husbands. ;)

Okay I'll stand by it then.

Just gotta get past the language barrier with Volug...!

trdl23 posted...
Top 5 main antagonists

I skipped this one before cuz I already did primary antagonists but on second thought I'll just do this one with all major antagonists counted, not just the biggest one in each game.

5. Idunn (FE6). I'm not sure why but I've really started liking Idunn lately. I want her to show up in Heroes so badly, but luckily there aren't that many manaketes so she probably will at some point.
4. Michalis (FE12 etc). He sort of gets a face turn in FE12 but also kind of not? He's the original scumbag wyvern lord and still the most interesting thanks to his dynamics with Minerva and Maria.
3. Zelgius (FE10). Here's how you make a villain threatening without making them just randomly, callously evil.
2. Trabant (FE4). It's crazy that they did King Garon way, way better than King Garon like twenty years earlier.
1. Arvis (FE4). Still #1, I have a boner for FE4 and I'm not sorry about it.

Lolo_Guru posted...
characters pairs that never got support conversations together but should have

This is hard because of the different support systems in each game, like do the generic supports in FE10 count? What about games with no supports? Idk I'll do my best though.

5. Genny/Saber (Echoes). It's kind of implied they get together, but also not? I don't like this as a romantic thing but maybe I would if they actually interacted... and if Genny was aged up quite a bit...
4. Flora/Jakob (Fates). wow you know what made no sense: these characters not having supports in a game with tons and tons of supports that didn't need to exist.
3. Chrom/Cordelia (Awakening). "Let's let everyone support everyone, oh except the main fucking character." Anyway this doesn't even have to lead to marriage I just want them to be able to talk.
2. Panne/Emmeryn (Awakening). I don't like that the latter character is recruitable at all but if she is she should have gotten, you know, supports with characters she'd logically talk to. This one in particular would have been a good way of fleshing out Panne's motivations a bit more.
1. Ephraim/Innes (FE8). These two hate each other's guts and I want to see it fleshed out directly instead of through them dating each other's sisters like weirdos.

I've probably missed some really obvious ones... Out of curiosity do you have a list of your own?
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Kenri
12/01/17 6:07:28 PM
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tl;dr incoming

Nanis23 posted...
Tragic characters

This is gonna be pretty Archanea/Jugdral heavy I think, those are the games with the most tragedy... I think I'll just wrap some examples together.

5. Lucina and Severa (Awakening)
The Awakening kids are pretty interesting because they're all traumatized in different ways. I think Lucina and Severa got it the worst since they both dealt with tons of insecurity even before they failed to save their own timeline, as they had to deal with being compared to their parents. Severa is just a bundle of self-hatred who lashes out at people so they won't get close to her and make her risk losing them, while Lucina withdraws, taking the Marth identity (itself probably a Bad Choice if she's trying not to live in her ancestors' shadows) and threatening to kill Robin, even if Robin is her mother. Even once they beat Grima, I think Lucina and Severa are the ones who will feel most out of place in a time that isn't their own.

4. Naesala (FE9/10)
Dude doesn't want to fuck everyone over, he's just looking out for Kilvas and inherited a really awful situation there. It's hard to call him a good person, but he's not as evil as most of the cast thinks because he refuses to speak about his true motivations, instead just owning everyone's hatred for him. Sanaki's one of the only ones who sees through it, and she's savvy enough to help him get a happy ending, but man did he cause a lot of death before it happened.

3. Renault (FE7)
Renault is lowkey the most interesting character in FE7, which you'd never know because there's little reason to use him, much less grind supports with him. He's bad at healing because he used to just be a fuckwretched bandit, something he agonizes over especially once he learns he killed Lucius' parents. He cooperated with Nergal's plan to create morphs in order to bring his dead friend back to life, only to find out the morph Nergal eventually created was just a facsimile and not his actual friend.

2. Hardin and Wolf (FE12)
While Nyna and Camus eventually find some degree of happiness, even without each other, Hardin and Wolf just get fucked over by the universe. Hardin gained the political power he wanted and married the woman he loved, only to find out she never actually loved him. He never wanted to go evil but got corrupted by the Darksphere because of his relationship with Nyna. It's no one's "fault" since Nyna got basically forced into it herself, which makes it more tragic. Wolf can be recruited with some difficulty in FE12, so he doesn't have to die to Marth's army like in FE3, but he's so devastated by Hardin's death and his own hand in it that it's implied he kills himself after the war.

1. Sigurd, Quan, and Eldigan (FE4).
The three best friends from FE4 who just end up unable to do anything right. All three of them die for their ideals and their loyalty to each other and it's all completely preventable but they just can't see the writing on the wall well enough to pick a different path. Sigurd fails to realize that disrupting other countries has been playing into Arvis' hand, Eldigan is unable to reconcile his friendships with his knighthood, and Quan's loyalty to Sigurd leaves him blind to the problems in Thracia. None of them are particularly good people, but they're trying, and they just don't try hard enough and end up dead for it. Ethlin and Dierdre should really be up here too but they don't get nearly the development they deserve, unfortunately.
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Kenri
12/01/17 6:11:32 PM
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WickIebee posted...
Supports without paired endings (and are heterosexual *cough*) that you wish had endings. Sorry to troll with the hetero thing, but I know where you'd go with this if I didn't.

lmao too true. though same gender supports USED to get paired endings too!

5. Klein/Thea (FE6). Only Roy got paired endings in FE6 so there are a lot of omissions here. This is a big one since they're obviously hella into each other. If FE6 was FE7 this would have had an ending.
4. Igrene/Astolfo (FE6). I can't believe we find out Astolfo is Igrene's former husband and then that's it, there's no conclusion to it all we just have to sit and ruminate on that.
3. Ike/Lethe (FE10). Ike's definitely all about the boys but to me he's also pretty obviously interested in Lethe in FE9. I always liked his dynamic with Lethe way more than with Elincia (which I never bought as romantic even when it was played up in FE9). They even make kind of a marriage promise in their FE9 A-support and it's never mentioned again.
2. Juno/Zealot (FE6). I love them and they're like canon married but they don't get a paired ending. Lame, not that anyone would ever use them both though I guess.
1. Flavia/Basilio (Awakening). What in the world happened here that these two didn't get a paired ending, what the fuck Awakening?

Tom Bombadil posted...
Didja play Pokemon Conquest? Not quite the same but it IS an SRPG

Crit animations

I did! I liked it but it's really easy and gets repetitive pretty fast.

Crit animations is gonna be VERY GBA heavy and I make no apologies.

5. Swordmaster melee crit, aka "Joshua used Double Team"
4. Amelia trainee melee crit, aka "oops i dropped my lance. in your kidneys."
3. Bandit melee crit, aka first you scream, then you axe.
2. Nomad Trooper melee crit, aka "what. did you say. to that horse."
1. Blade Lord Lyn melee crit, aka Lyn goes bankai

NBIceman posted...
Tellius units

You can go by actual usefulness or character or a mixture, whatever you like.

I'll go mainly by character though they're mostly useful too.

5. Sanaki. Again I'd prefer if she was like... Ike's age, but she's still a really cool ruler type character.
4. Haar. Surprisingly plot-relevant for a guy who sleeps all day. Who doesn't love Haar?
3. Jill. Jill goes through so much in FE9/10. I love her supports with Mist and Lethe and watching her unlearn all the racist shit she had picked up in Daein.
2. Ike. What do I even need to say?
1. Elincia. Elincia's the best, she gets so much development and goes from such a crap leader to such a good one. Also, infinite prf brave sword? I should've put that on the best swords list lmao

HMs: Soren, Tibarn, Naesala, Ranulf, Lethe, Reyson... ugh there are too many good Tellius characters.

Emeraldegg posted...
Ew, leonardo. even with lughnasadh he sucks ass. I'm liking these lists though, keep it up!

Thanks! Yeah Leonardo's just bad. His hair though...

MZero11 posted...
Oh right, and Athos died >_>

Oh yeah you'd be shit outta luck then. That sucks.
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Lopen
12/01/17 6:23:13 PM
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Off class versions of characters (via retraining via second seal/heart seal/etc or Fire Emblem Heroes alternate versions)
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WickIebee
12/01/17 6:37:37 PM
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Kenri posted...
2. Nomad Trooper melee crit, aka "what. did you say. to that horse."


Yes, my favorite crit animation here.

Kenri posted...
lmao too true. though same gender supports USED to get paired endings too!


True, some. But I actually never could play many of the originals, especially 4/5. I don't beat many games either, having played... 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and the remakes to 1/3, but only beat 7/8/9/11? That's SD.

Ah shit that Wolf thing though :(

I'd still be interested in talking more about how much of a dick 6/10 were to pairings though :(
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MysteriousStan
12/01/17 8:01:35 PM
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Top 5 ways Fates killed the franchise.
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Kenri
12/01/17 8:24:55 PM
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WickIebee posted...
True, some. But I actually never could play many of the originals, especially 4/5. I don't beat many games either, having played... 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and the remakes to 1/3, but only beat 7/8/9/11? That's SD.

Well technically I think 7, 8, and 10 are the only ones with same gender endings until Fates. 2 sort of had some but you had no control over them (and they were all obviously platonic).

WickIebee posted...
I'd still be interested in talking more about how much of a dick 6/10 were to pairings though :(

My favorite outside those two is how in Fates they didn't even change the automatically generated endings that made no sense. "After the war, Xander ruled Nohr with his wife, Selena, who disappeared from history after the war" lol what

Dark Young Link posted...
Top 5 Est type characters.

Honestly I rarely use them, they're not usually worth it. But some are cool characters.

5. Elincia (FE9). I barely used her in FE9 cuz I don't think she's really worth it there but I had to sneak her on here because she's my favorite.
4. Kurthnaga (FE10). When all your characters are capped but you still have bonus EXP, just pump it all into Kurthnaga and watch him be... adequate, I guess. You've already got a bunch of Laguz royals who don't need investment at that point though so he's not that special.
3. Est herself (FE1/etc). I've never used her frankly because I was already overloaded on fliers, but she deserves some credit for establishing the archetype.
2. Sophia (FE6). I really like her and I've used her but she just sucks. She joins at level 1 when some of your characters are already promoted, on a fog of war desert map, and the map after has long range magic to watch out for... She's basically impossible to train (though I did it once) and not even good when she is trained. But she's cool and purple.
1. Nino (FE7). She does what an Est should, which is dominate the game if you put in the effort to catch her up. Nino's practically guaranteed to be OP if you bother with her.

tcaz2 posted...
Top 5 loli dragons

i don't like this character archetype lmao

5. Nowi (Awakening). She has moments of surprising maturity which are cool but man is she poorly designed. Her dragon form is really cool at least, it looks like a leafy sea dragon.
4. Nah (Awakening). I like how going through the bad future made her seemingly more mature than her mom, but it all fades away once they reunite. Nice touch.
3. Myrrh (FE8). Myrrh's definitely the least childish of the kid manaketes despite hanging onto Ephraim so much. Having her fight Morva is always heartwrenching.
2. Fae (FE6). She's just kind of adorable. Lil chicken dragon.
1. Tiki (FE1). The OG. I like Tiki more as an adult but she's cool as a kid too.

Nameless2000 posted...
Top 5 things about Oboro

I uhhh don't really like Oboro. Sorry! I'll try though.

5. Her connection to Beruka is kinda cool?
4. She looks hella good as a Basara.
3. Her Personal Skill. Most of the enemies are Nohr so it's really just "+3 Str for the majority of the game". (It's bad in Revelation though.)
2. Her class. Lance infantry are rare and cool.
1. Her interest in fashion. It's way more interesting than her other gimmick which is just hating Nohr. (Like. Fair. But it just comes off as racism even though Nohr really does suck.)

I'm still annoyed she can't marry Leo in Revelation and be Forrest's mom because that would make so much sense.
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Anagram
12/01/17 8:26:19 PM
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Top 5 'sympathetic bosses who fight for their country and know they're in the wrong'
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Kenri
12/01/17 9:41:31 PM
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Cybat posted...
top 5 personal skills from Fates

I'm not sure what's actually good but I like these ones:

5. Optimistic (Kiragi). I like the skills that make the Wait command do something extra, I think there's a lot of room to explore that mechanically in future games.
4. Bushido (Ryoma). Ryoma, who is always overleveled, gets his stats boosted if he's paired up with someone of a lower level. It's just unfair to Nohr.
3. Bibliophile (Ophelia). She'll like always have 3 books anyway so it's just a flat boost all the time.
2. Aching Blood (Odin). What a perfect skill for Odin lmao
1. Fierce Rival (Selena). Guaranteed crits when you get other crits. This saved me a couple times in Conquest.

Terastodon posted...
Top 5 things about Haar

5. His lack of fucks. Haar just doesn't give a shit, especially if it interrupts his sleep.
4. ...until he does. Haar figured out Begnion's shit before most people and has a surprising amount of plot relevance late in FE10 which is awesome after he kinda did nothing in FE9.
3. His class/stats. Pretty sure FE10 speedruns/low turn count runs just use Haar almost exclusively whenever possible. And like, of course they do, he's really good, has great movement, he can fly, and arrows don't do effective damage to dragons in FE10.
2. The EYEPATCH OF POWER
1. His pre-battle boss dialogue. "The world could flip upside down and you'd be trying to boss around gravity."

Dishonorable mention: His relationship with Jill. It's kinda cute until you realize there's like a 25 year age difference between them.

TheRock1525 posted...
Top 5 booties.

Well we know they won't belong to Awakening characters because they have no feet

5. Adult Tiki (Awakening). Hey, she made it on this list as well!
4. Lucius (FE7). Man, look at that hourglass figure.
3. Camilla (Fates). I actually hate her outfit but also? Yes.
2. Cherche (Awakening). This is kind of an outside choice I think but I'm looking at her official art and FUCK.
1. Louise (FE7). I had such a fucking crush on Louise while playing FE7 as a kid asfgifdkhfks I think it was the pink skirt.

HM: Tharja, I just don't like her so she doesn't get to be on this list.

fedorafreak posted...
Great lists so far.

Archetypes.

Thanks! I'm having fun doing 'em.

5. The Pegasus Trio. There haven't been any of these recently but I miss the days when the games just threw Pegasus Knights at you. I like how they were enemies in FE4 but could still triangle attack.
4. Lorenz. A less popular one, Lorenzes are important enemy commanders who are difficult to recruit. I like the puzzley aspects of recruitment so these guys are right up my alley, particularly ones like Hannibal and Douglas.
3. Jagen. Cool old dudes. They're usually surprisingly useful too once you realize you shouldn't try to solo the game with them (unless you want to). I think the dynamic of them being more experienced but unable to back it up due to age/failing health is interesting despite being tragic. Oifeys (the "good" Jagens like Seth and Titania) are cool too but for different reasons obviously.
2. Cain and Abel. Whatever two dumb cavaliers join you early on are almost assuredly two of the best units in the game, so go ahead and use them and make your life a lot easier. Unless you're playing FE10 then you don't get a Cain and Abel, you get Fiona and suffering.
1. Minerva. The red wyvern knight that face turns later in the game. Almost always one of the coolest characters in the game. Minerva, Melady, Altena, Cormag, and Jill are all favorites of mine, and Vaida's pretty cool too.
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Kenri
12/01/17 9:45:21 PM
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Lopen posted...
Off class versions of characters (via retraining via second seal/heart seal/etc or Fire Emblem Heroes alternate versions)

5. Wyvern Knight Nowi (Awakening). "Why is our dragon riding on a different dragon?" "Because I am a master tactician."
4. Ballistician Kiragi (Fates). "HEY DAD I FOUND A TANK IS THIS A LEGENDARY WEAPON LIKE YOUR FUJIN YUMI?"
3. Manakete Ninian (Heroes). I know she's still a Dancer but it's so cool to see Ninian using a Dragonstone after all these years.
2. Wyvern Lord Sirius (FE12). Broken as fuck and also just looks super cool. The red wyverns go faster.
1. Dancer Inigo (Heroes). *sobbing* they finally let him dance, i'm so happy for him

Not sure if all of those really count so take some HMs: Berserker Azama (Fates), Nomad Trooper Lyn (Heroes), General Wolf (FE12), Witch Nyx (Fates), Dark Priest Moulder (FE8 via enemy control/teach dark magic glitch)

NioraptH posted...
Green haired characters

Not counting blue-green or teal...

5. Cecilia (FE6)
4. Tiki
3. Lyn
2. Lewyn (FE4)
1. Elincia

wow that's a generic list

HMs: Midayle and Erinys (FE4)

MysteriousStan posted...
Top 5 ways Fates killed the franchise.

5. "I just had a kid, time to pop 'em in the incubator for a few minutes until they're a traumatized adult that hates me."
4. Please pay $20 to unlock the secret true route where you can recruit all the characters except the ones that die horribly for no reason and also you get to learn the rest of the awful, awful plot that you don't care about
3. Corrin and Garon: two exceedingly uninteresting and terrible morons
2. CHOOSE YOUR SIDE: Hoshido, who have done nothing wrong ever, or Nohr, where the national passtime is puppy-murder
1. Waifus

I don't think it killed the franchise though. I hope. Echoes is great and honestly even Heroes is a better FE game than Fates.

Anagram posted...
Top 5 'sympathetic bosses who fight for their country and know they're in the wrong'

I assume you mean ones that can't be recruited eventually?

5. Hetzel (FE10). I felt legit bad you have to kill him, but really he's not a good guy so eh.
4. Mustafa (Awakening). Minor character but he's really cool, probably the only nuance we get out of Plegia.
3. Reinhardt (FE5). Again maybe some Heroes bias spilling over here...
2. Shiharam (FE9). He can recruit Jill away from your party, goddamn what a boss.
1. Camus (FE1). The one true Camus.

I almost put Eldigan at #1 but you don't ever really fight him.

All caught up unless I missed one!
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mnkboy907
12/01/17 9:48:23 PM
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What exactly is the Est archetype? I'm pretty sure she ended up being my strongest Falcon Knight in Echoes (Faye was second best).
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KamikazePotato
12/01/17 9:49:00 PM
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Music Tracks
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12/01/17 10:02:56 PM
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Top 5 evil ladies
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Emeraldegg
12/01/17 10:14:55 PM
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Your personal least favorite characters for any reason
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tcaz2
12/01/17 10:20:39 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
What exactly is the Est archetype? I'm pretty sure she ended up being my strongest Falcon Knight in Echoes (Faye was second best).


The Est archetype is a character that joins very underleveled, but has GREAT growths so if you actually do level them, they are great units. Also tend to join quite late, but not always. Some examples (aside from Est herself) are Nino, Ewan, and Elincia
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Tom Bombadil
12/01/17 10:20:43 PM
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Heroes characters relative to how you like them in their original games
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Lopen
12/01/17 10:21:00 PM
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Haha hell yeah Wyvern Knight Nowi. I mean I don't use Nowi much at all but the sheer hilarity of that makes that the class of choice when I do use her. I'm honestly not even 100% sure what my list would even be but I approve of yours in any case. (her + manakete ninian + dancer inigo would be strong choices for mine at least)
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Team Rocket Elite
12/01/17 10:34:28 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
What exactly is the Est archetype? I'm pretty sure she ended up being my strongest Falcon Knight in Echoes (Faye was second best).


Est characters are characters that join late in the game at a low level. So Est in Echoes wasn't actually an Est character despite actually being Est.
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WickIebee
12/01/17 10:35:31 PM
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Kenri posted...
1. Minerva. The red wyvern knight that face turns later in the game. Almost always one of the coolest characters in the game. Minerva, Melady, Altena, Cormag, and Jill are all favorites of mine, and Vaida's pretty cool too.


Isn't it Zeiss, not Melady? Thought Melady was green and flies right at your team?
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12/01/17 10:53:17 PM
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Lolo_Guru
12/01/17 11:10:48 PM
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top 5 (fire emblem characters) in smash bros.
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NBIceman
12/01/17 11:11:03 PM
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Some good opinions in this topic. I'm still salty Ike and Lethe didn't get a paired ending in RD.
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WickIebee
12/01/17 11:15:21 PM
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Kenri posted...
Well technically I think 7, 8, and 10 are the only ones with same gender endings until Fates. 2 sort of had some but you had no control over them (and they were all obviously platonic).


I don't remember any in 8, I forgot about most 10 Endings, only remembered Elincia/Geoffrey actually existed. Though, I can't believe I forgot Florina/Lyn for 7.
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Alanna82
12/02/17 12:19:49 AM
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Top 5 non dragon (since you did the dragons already) animal characters. (Laguz/kitsunes/wolfkin/taguel)

My quote is from Yarne, so I can't believe I forgot to mention this earlier.

Edit: Oh wait I guess you can include dragons since it was just the loli's you did earlier.
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Nanis23
12/02/17 2:48:42 AM
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Kenri posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Tragic characters

This is gonna be pretty Archanea/Jugdral heavy I think, those are the games with the most tragedy... I think I'll just wrap some examples together.

Only read Renault and Lucina as the other are spoilers for me
I kinda expected Nino there as well but I guess I just didn't play enough FE games!
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12/02/17 2:53:00 AM
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Heroes voices for characters that never had voice acting.
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12/02/17 9:48:56 AM
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Top 5 characters that still haven't made one of these Top 5 lists
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Raka_Putra
12/02/17 11:17:51 AM
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Top 5 features of Awakening
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12/02/17 2:13:00 PM
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Top 5 gay (or strongly implied) characters
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Xiahou Shake
12/02/17 2:38:37 PM
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These lists are awesome! Very cool to see such a range of opinions from someone who's enjoyed the series this much.

How about the top five children characters?
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12/02/17 5:19:27 PM
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Top 5 things about... Benny!
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Kenri
12/03/17 2:42:58 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Music Tracks

I never really got into FE's music. It's weird since I'm all about VG music in a lot of other cases but most of it doesn't stand out to me in FE.

5. End of All (Land) (Fates)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4F7MhS1ATU

There are three versions of this I think the Conquest one is my favorite. Probably the only time I actually like Azura's dumb song, even though it kinda sounds like it's being sung by a human MIDI converter at the beginning there. It's sweeping and dramatic and definitely sounds like a final battle theme.

4. Conquest (Awakening)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUKr66uRS7M

This is a generic map theme but for some reason I think it's really beautiful, it sort of reminds me of DKC music.

3. Final Chapter - The Last Holy War (FE4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLl5tu9au_Q

Really mellow for a final chapter theme, but I think that's why I like it. It fits the mood of the final chapter so well, and I like the way it moves back and forth between being more militaristic/a marching song and more carefree and floaty.

2. Don't Speak Her Name! (Awakening)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWO4ff1HXYY

This works perfectly for its role in the story but I also just like it in general. It's sad and sweet and mournful and hopeful all at once.

1. Conversation 1 (FE4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bugR0IK1hM

I think I'm the only one who likes this song but it's just so bitter sounding in a way that I think the SNES' sound set really helps. I hear this song in my head whenever some drama's going down in my life.

HMs: With Mila's Divine Protection (FE2), Together We Ride (FE7), Main Theme Opera Version

Anagram posted...
Top 5 evil ladies

5. Petrine (FE9). Petrine's a real piece of shit, but she looks cool as hell and uses a hecka rad magic lance. If you think about her background as a Branded she almost becomes a little sympathetic too. Almost.
4. Sonia (FE7). Sonia is singlehandedly responsible for almost every gut-punch in FE7, way more so than Nergal is. She's a horrible person with no redeeming qualities but she is pretty interesting, being a morph who forgot she was a morph
3. Clarisse (FE12). She's more complicated than she appears on the surface and her relationship with Katarina is probably the only truly interesting thing Katarina has going for her. I felt legit sad when she died even though she's a terrible person.
2. Ursula (FE7). I feel bad for Ursula, she's not a good person but she'd be a lot better of one if she hadn't been manipulated so strongly by Sonia. But then Sonia manipulated everyone. Ursula is 100% the least sympathetic of the Four Fangs but it still sucks that she dies calling out for Sonia, someone who never cared a bit about her.
1. Hilda (FE4). Imagine if Cruella de Vil was an FE character who hated humans instead of puppies. That's Hilda. She tortures Tailtiu to death. Enough said. Hilda is terrifying.

HMs: Micaiah (FE10) (just kidding) (sort of), Eremiya (FE12), Pamela (FE4)

SORRY there aren't many evil ladies in FE and I like even fewer of them, especially since I don't really count Idunn as evil.
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12/03/17 2:45:11 AM
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Emeraldegg posted...
Your personal least favorite characters for any reason

5. Castor (FE1/3/11/12). Castor's awful. He's a dumb archer conman who puts on a sad face and talks about his sick mom to extort money or sympathy from people. Caeda recruits him and I wish she hadn't.
4. Makalov (FE9/10). He's a real piece of shit but at least he's kinda funny? I guess? Not really. how did this fuck up get with astrid. mystery for the ages.
3. Peri (Fates). Peri is straight up probably the most villainous recruitable character in any FE game. Usually that would make her interesting, but not here! She's just randomly a serial killer and no one seems to take exception with it. I also hate her design. Get fucked, Peri.
2. Percy (Fates). Percy is the dumbest, brattiest kid in the world. He tries to get Arthur and the rest of Corrin's army killed just because he's upset at his dad. I hate his stupid design and his Leave It to Beaver style dialogue is grating at best.
1. Matthis (FE1/3/11/12). I HATE this guy. I HATE him HATE him HATE him HATE him. I hate his dumb face and his sad sack personality and I hate how hard it is to recruit him and I hate how he keeps talking about how cute his sister is. Extra creepy. He's like if 4chan was a character in FE. He's also the most common class in the game (Cavalier) so there's even less reason to use him. If you had to pick one character to not recruit, Matthis is a GREAT choice.

Tom Bombadil posted...
Heroes characters relative to how you like them in their original games

I'm not sure I'm reading this right, you mean my favorite characters that happen to be in Heroes?

5. Sigurd (FE4)
4. Hector
3. Lachesis (FE4)
2. Ike
1. Elincia

I've only managed to pull Hector and Ike though... should've spent all my orbs on the Elincia banner that was up until a few days ago.

Lopen posted...
Haha hell yeah Wyvern Knight Nowi. I mean I don't use Nowi much at all but the sheer hilarity of that makes that the class of choice when I do use her. I'm honestly not even 100% sure what my list would even be but I approve of yours in any case. (her + manakete ninian + dancer inigo would be strong choices for mine at least)

Usually I just keep the canon classes honestly, or wait until promotion and then go down the obviously non-canon split (e.g. Griffon Rider for Cherche). I'm liking the liberties Heroes has been taking though.

WickIebee posted...
Kenri posted...
1. Minerva. The red wyvern knight that face turns later in the game. Almost always one of the coolest characters in the game. Minerva, Melady, Altena, Cormag, and Jill are all favorites of mine, and Vaida's pretty cool too.


Isn't it Zeiss, not Melady? Thought Melady was green and flies right at your team?

She does, but I meant her armor's red. I'd say they both qualify (just like with Heath and Vaida) but I like Melady more.
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12/03/17 2:46:47 AM
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Pegasus knights.
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12/03/17 11:57:36 AM
#88:


Top 5 hats
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12/03/17 1:15:51 PM
#89:


greengravy294 posted...
myrmidons

5. Joshua (FE8). I wish Joshua was in a game with skills so he could have gambling related stuff, but I guess it works well for a crit heavy character too. I want his hat.
4. Stefan (FE9/10). Aside from how much of a dick move his recruitment is, Stefan is VERY cool. (His design's pretty chuu2 but it's still cool.) Stefan's aloof, friendly, and philosophical -- not to mention mysterious.
3. Shannan (FE4). He might have the same name as your third grade best friend's mom but Shannan is a cool dude. Sigurd and Ayra rescue him as a kid then he helps out Seliph as an adult. In the manga he tried to protect Dierdre from Manfroy which was PRETTY DAMN GUTSY for a literal child, though he also harbors a lot of guilt for failing.
2. Karel (FE6/7). Karel has one of my favorite support convos in FE7, where he enlists Dart to tell him stories of the strongest men in the world, only to find out he's already killed them all. Karel's sort of a psychopath, but at least he's USUALLY pointed at the bad guys. After Karla's death he mellows out a lot and goes into full on warrior-pacifist Rurouni Kenshin territory. Can't go wrong with Karel in either game (he's better in FE6 though).
1. Ayra (FE4). Everyone loves Ayra. The best strategy for recruiting her is to send Alec to fight her, not because he's competent but because he has Nihil to negate her Astra skill which will murder anyone else. She's the only woman in FE4 who isn't confirmed to have lived through the Battle of Belhalla probably because she's too much of a badass to run. Her kids are always great and she has surprisingly sweet lover conversations with Lex and, even more surprisingly, Arden.

I like most myrmidons tbh... except Navarre who is overrated (he's still cool I guess).

Lolo_Guru posted...
top 5 (fire emblem characters) in smash bros.

5. Corrin I guess. It's Corrin or Lucina here right? I like Lucina but uh in Smash she's just Marth.
4. Roy. He's okay, I'd rather play Marth though. I like him more in 4 than Melee.
3. Robin. I tried to main Robin but I'm just not good as her, she's fun though.
2. Marth. I'm bad at Marth but I love him, he's a great technical fighter.
1. Ike. My main in Smash 4. Ike is crazy fun to play.

NBIceman posted...
Some good opinions in this topic. I'm still salty Ike and Lethe didn't get a paired ending in RD.

Yeah it sucks. Need a remaster of RD with proper supports/endings and some rebalancing!

WickIebee posted...
I don't remember any in 8, I forgot about most 10 Endings, only remembered Elincia/Geoffrey actually existed. Though, I can't believe I forgot Florina/Lyn for 7.

There were quite a few in 8! Kyle and Forde for example, and Eirika and Tana. 10 had Ike/Soren and Ike/Ranulf at the very least. 7 had loads since most endings weren't overtly romantic.

Not that you'd necessarily remember any of that unless you're an obsessive dork like I am.

Alanna82 posted...
Top 5 non dragon (since you did the dragons already) animal characters. (Laguz/kitsunes/wolfkin/taguel)

My quote is from Yarne, so I can't believe I forgot to mention this earlier.

Edit: Oh wait I guess you can include dragons since it was just the loli's you did earlier.

The only dragon I really like is Tiki so it wouldn't change that much, I'll just do non-dragons.

5. Reyson
4. Lethe
3. Naesala
2. Tibarn
1. Ranulf

...this is a pretty generic list, dang. Panne is probably #6 though, with Nailah, Volug, and Kaden not far behind her.
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12/03/17 1:20:57 PM
#90:


Nanis23 posted...
Only read Renault and Lucina as the other are spoilers for me
I kinda expected Nino there as well but I guess I just didn't play enough FE games!

Oh yeah, I considered Nino (and Jaffar) but idk there's a lot of tragedy to go around. The first five games in the series were a lot darker than they have been since.

SSBM_Guy posted...
Heroes voices for characters that never had voice acting.

Of the units I can actually check right now that I know don't have voice acting...

5. Est
4. Serra
3. Nino
2. Lyn
1. Clarine

...this is not a good list, I just don't have enough characters from FE4-8 in Heroes to really do a better one.

Team Rocket Elite posted...
Top 5 characters that still haven't made one of these Top 5 lists

lmao I'm DEFINITELY going to fuck this up somehow.

5. Shinon (FE9/10)
4. Soleil (Fates)
3. Forrest (Fates)
2. Ares (FE4)
1. Altena (FE4)

ngl this spoils a future list pretty hardcore <_<

NioraptH posted...
Top 5 most likely to be in a kpop boy group

I'll be honest, I have no idea how to judge this but I did my best.

5. Ewan (FE8)
4. Inigo (Awakening)
3. Shigure (Fates)
2. Hayato (Fates)
1. Kliff (Echoes)

Izana can be their manager.

Raka_Putra posted...
Top 5 features of Awakening

5. Plot incorporated bonus characters
4. Pair-up (though I hope it's used sparingly from here on)
3. Amount of content (Awakening's like a Taco Bell $5 box, it's not amazing but at least there's a lot of it)
2. Casual mode (specifically how it gives you mid-battle hard saves)
1. Avatar can marry anyone* (*Some terms and conditions may apply)

SantaRPidgey posted...
Top 5 gay (or strongly implied) characters

YES my favorite (but also, I hope you're okay with bi characters cuz there aren't many that are straight up gay).

5. Kjelle (Awakening). whoops i drank a truth potion and accidentally confessed to wanting to push severa up against a wall *shrug*
4. Leon (Echoes). "What can you do with a man like that but... fall in love?" fuck off leon i hate you
3. Florina (FE7). Small brain: JRPG characters who fall in love during the opening cutscene and say I love you during the closing cutscene. Galaxy brain: Florina, whose defining character trait is being shy, confessing her love to Lyn in chapter 10 of like 30.
2. Soleil (Fates). This girl is so smooth she scores a date in her recruitment scene. I guess she was changed somewhat in localization but I'm frankly scared to look up what she was like before cuz I'm sure it was horrible. Why can't she marry Rhajat again.
1. Ike. "Okay, so who should I have at my side when I leave the country forever, the cute mage I've been friends with since we were both boys or my super hot new guy friend that can turn into a cat?"

Man it's killing me to not include Lyn or Soren on that but I dunno if they count as strongly implied.
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12/03/17 1:58:15 PM
#91:


I wouldn't count Lyn, she has paired endings with Rath and Hector.

Soren is just Ike Sexual. (lol)
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12/03/17 5:07:23 PM
#92:


Alanna82 posted...
I wouldn't count Lyn, she has paired endings with Rath and Hector.

Soren is just Ike Sexual. (lol)

That is actually why I didn't include Soren lmao

But imo Lyn is bi.

Xiahou Shake posted...
These lists are awesome! Very cool to see such a range of opinions from someone who's enjoyed the series this much.

How about the top five children characters?

asdfjkgldf thank you! This is such a nice comment!

5. Lucina. I'm just picturing myself going back in time to save the world and going "I should hide my identity... I know! I'll call myself George Washington!" Lucina's such a fucking dork as much as she tries to be all cool and collected.
4. Severa (Awakening). She's really just Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion in Fire Emblem but like... Asuka's cool so it's fine. How does this chick end up fighting for Nohr? (This is rhetorical I know there were Shenanigans.) In her intro chapter she turns hostile if Chrom's army kills one (1) single villager in self-defense. We're expected to believe she tolerates Camilla, much less Garon? Please.
3. Soleil (Fates). She's so gay I love her. Fates didn't deserve a character as pure as Soleil. I want her to dance clumsily with All The Girls.
2. Forrest (Fates). Forrest is fantastic. Dude had my respect from the moment he showed up in all pink. He and Elise are adorable together. Also, Leo calls him an embarrassment and Forrest's just like "sorry you feel that way but I deserve better than you, bye" and it shuts Leo down so hard that his heart grows three sizes.
1. Altena (FE4). Whoops, I actually thought FE4 wasn't gonna win this one... Altena's the oldest of the kids and you have no control over her parents, but I'd still call her a child character and she's cool as hell. How is Altena so much more compelling than Corrin despite getting 1/30th the screentime.

HMs: Brady, Inigo
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12/03/17 5:20:55 PM
#93:


Kenri posted...
1. Clarine


You must be grateful.
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fedorafreak
12/03/17 5:25:42 PM
#94:


Clarine and Serra have great voices. AdORE me!

Since you seem to be a fan of typical hated maps, let's go with...

Least favorite maps/chapters
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Raka_Putra
12/03/17 6:20:45 PM
#95:


This topic is really fun and makes me want to play FE4.

Top 5 characters first introduced in Radiant Dawn
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WhiteLens
12/03/17 6:41:02 PM
#96:


Wait, no Heather on the gay list?
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12/04/17 10:00:10 AM
#97:


Mechanics from old games that you want them to bring back
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fedorafreak
12/04/17 11:21:28 AM
#98:


This topic is really fun and makes me want to play FE4.


FE4 is great, but it's a little...ancient due to how old it is. For instance, you need a skill in order to double units and, in Gen 1 especially, not everyone comes with that skill. You also have to do a convoluted way to trade items, but that's mainly because of the mechanic where everyone has their own gold.

Still, solid game and I wished more FE followed in its footsteps.
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12/04/17 6:08:37 PM
#99:


Ugh sorry about being slow

Nameless2000 posted...
Top 5 things about... Benny!

5. Big ol' softie
4. Brick wall defenses
3. Cool character design
2. The scripting in Benny's dialogue (i.e. the timing of the text boxes, the changing of character portraits, etc) has outstanding comedic timing that's present absolutely nowhere else in Fates.
1. Benny and Charlotte's friendship (whether it ends in romance or not) is #friendshipgoals

Shonen_Bat posted...
Pegasus knights.

5. Tana (FE8). Okay so she doesn't have a great start what with getting kidnapped but Tana's a good friend to Eirika and Ephraim and definitely my favorite pegasus knight in FE8.
4. Tanith (FE9/10). I might be the only one who likes Tanith... her design's a little generic but in a way I like, and I love that she's got her reputation for being super stern and scary. In FE9 she had a skill that could summon generic pegasus knights which was weird and cool for FE.
3. Erinys (FE4) is probably the most mature, responsible character in the first half of the game which means she bounces off Lewyn super well. She's also your only flier for a loooong time so get used to her.
2. Florina. she just wants to have a big ol' family with lyn and her sisters and everyone's always trying to go off on their own, poor florina
1. Elincia because she's still my fav lmao. she counts as a pegasus knight right? sort of?

Anagram posted...
Top 5 hats

5. Forrest's cute lil beret (Fates)
4. Miriel's giant witch hat (Awakening)
3. Candace's enormous pink tricorn hat (Fates)
2. Wendell's pope hat (FE12)
1. Joshua's hella rad hat (FE8)

WickIebee posted...
You must be grateful.

fedorafreak posted...
Clarine and Serra have great voices. AdORE me!

lmao apparently the trick to good voice acting is noblewomen who over-enunciate

fedorafreak posted...
Least favorite maps/chapters

Hmmm I'm sure I'll miss some here just because I've blocked them out of my mind, but let's see.

5. Girl of the Spirit Forest (FE4). Love this game but this chapter really sucks, slogging through that forest is awful.
4. Final chapter (FE6). People say that FE8's final chapter had no challenge but it can't hold a candle to FE6's final chapter. Incidentally, holding a candle to FE6's final chapter is enough to kill every enemy in it, but you'll still have to waste like 40 minutes running across the giant map and listening to Jahn explain the game's plot.
3. Raise the Standard (FE10). It's Fiona's map and I only remember its name because she and her dumbfuck allies definitely don't raise any standards.
2. That Fates map for the Wind Tribe that blows your characters all over the place. WOW, fuck this gimmick.
1. Matthis' map (FE12). I hate you, Matthis, you and your long, dull, awful map. Even if you don't care about recruiting Matthis, getting Marth to all the villages is annoying as hell.

WhiteLens posted...
Wait, no Heather on the gay list?

She's definitely gay but she also has like... a single text message's worth of lines. Blame RD for having a lame support system!
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12/04/17 10:12:34 PM
#100:


Raka_Putra posted...
Top 5 characters first introduced in Radiant Dawn

Ooh this is an interesting one. I should probably use it to list Dawn Brigade characters but I don't really like any of them.

5. Aran is pretty cool, though like all the Dawn Brigaders he falls off fast.
4. Vika barely has more than her character design going for her but it's a very cool character design (even if she kinda looks like a Hot Topic employee).
3. Volug is still hot as fuck and he's a pretty amusing character if you look up translations to his dialogue.
2. Heather's entire character is just "i'm gay" and without supports she didn't even really get to play that up, but she's cool still.
1. Nailah has one of my favorite character designs and is just super cool and badass. Her pre-battle convo with Sephiran is basically just him going "uh... you have a point, actually" and it's great.

HMs: neither is playable but I like Yune and Levail.

re: FE4, fedorafreak is right that it's dated, but it's still super playable. You should check it out, especially if you care about the story in FE, because IMO it's the best one.

Cybat posted...
Mechanics from old games that you want them to bring back

5. FE4-sized maps. I don't want every game to be this, but I'd like one more go at it. I think if they fixed some of FE4's problems and experimented with making the maps less linear, it could be really cool.
4. FE9 style supports. I think this is the game that did it best: supports build based on maps rather than turns, and interesting conversations are valued over shipping.
3. Separate children's campaign. I don't think you can really replicate FE4's twist here, but I'm definitely done with time travel shenanigans to let parents and kids coexist. Maybe revisit the original FE4 idea and have the adults get captured in some way so the kids have to rescue them, then you can still have both at the end. Bonus: FE4's style works better mechanically too.
2. Simple skill system. I'm definitely done with each character having a random assortment of minor skills after Awakening and Fates. Bring back the days when characters had 1-2 skills but they had big, obvious effects.
1. Rescuing. I think this was such a good mechanic and I want it back. Pair up just isn't the same.

All caught up now, so last bump unless I get more!
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