Current Events > Do you agree with Anita Sarkeesian?

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lolno
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She has nice DSLs
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I don't give a fuck what that fraud says.
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CiIantro posted...

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Thats not what she argues..... so why would those be answers
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The problem with Anita Sarkeesian is that she doesn't play video games, yet she wants to change them, which will negatively effect those of us who do play them.
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LoL
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I'd fuck her
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It's interesting in the sense that there is a problem when it comes to the depiction, inclusion, and treatment of women in and around videogames.

The problem is, she has no idea WTF she is talking about and is basically making everything worse.
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Lara Croft
Samus Aran
Roll
Jill Valentine
Aloy
etc.

OMFG SO DISRESPECTFUL

Poll is missing an option or two ~
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It's weird how times have changed. Back then the arguments were all about giving freedom to developers. They should be able to do what they want and not be criticized.

Now that group is all about criticizing games for being SJW, having an agenda, being anti-Trump etc.

It was a simpler time lol.
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Darmik posted...

It's weird how times have changed. Back then the arguments were all about giving freedom to developers. They should be able to do what they want and not be criticized.

Now that group is all about criticizing games for being SJW, having an agenda, being anti-Trump etc.

It was a simpler time lol.

If people don't like specific games, they don't need to buy them.
We deserve the choice of how to spend our money, even if others don't agree with our decisions.
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

Darmik posted...

It's weird how times have changed. Back then the arguments were all about giving freedom to developers. They should be able to do what they want and not be criticized.

Now that group is all about criticizing games for being SJW, having an agenda, being anti-Trump etc.

It was a simpler time lol.

If people don't like specific games, they don't need to buy them.
We deserve the choice of how to spend our money, even if others don't agree with our decisions.

Sure. But people do have the right to criticize games as well. It's fine. Discussions are normal and you don't have to agree with everyone else.
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Darmik posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

Darmik posted...

It's weird how times have changed. Back then the arguments were all about giving freedom to developers. They should be able to do what they want and not be criticized.

Now that group is all about criticizing games for being SJW, having an agenda, being anti-Trump etc.

It was a simpler time lol.

If people don't like specific games, they don't need to buy them.
We deserve the choice of how to spend our money, even if others don't agree with our decisions.

Sure. But people do have the right to criticize games as well. It's fine. Discussions are normal and you don't have to agree with everyone else.

It's fine in theory, but she believes games she doesn't hold up to her standards should be modified or not sold.
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

It's fine in theory, but she believes games she doesn't hold up to her standards should be modified or not sold.

Where was that ever said?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

It's interesting in the sense that there is a problem when it comes to the depiction, inclusion, and treatment of women in and around videogames.

The problem is, she has no idea WTF she is talking about and is basically making everything worse.

I'm still salty about how she portrayed Hitman as a game that rewarded you for killing strippers or whatever when it was literally the exact opposite being shown in the footage she used. I don't disagree with re-examining how tropes in games are used, but she had enough issues in her videos that her credibility was just completely shot.

As far as what games "should" be made, it's whatever the hell people feel like. I'm the sort of person that doesn't mind trans people or minorities or whatever the fuck people consider SJW in games and I also play stuff like Senran Kagura.
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I wish SJWs didn't have the industry by the balls. I want DOAX3 released here damn it
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She's stupid and ugly. The ultimate combination.
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MakoReizei posted...

I wish SJWs didn't have the industry by the balls. I want DOAX2 released here damn it

The less weeb games, the better
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MakoReizei posted...

I wish SJWs didn't have the industry by the balls. I want DOAX2 released here damn it

If Senran Kagura, Gal*Gun, various eroge like Nekopara, and all those ecchi dungeon crawlers can release in the west, there is zero reason for them to be unable to release DOAX3. Don't believe that bullshit narrative that Play-Asia and KT tried to spin about SJWs somehow preventing them from putting it out. It was their own business decision and it's downright cowardly for them to try and pin it on anyone else.
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Darmik posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

It's fine in theory, but she believes games she doesn't hold up to her standards should be modified or not sold.

Where was that ever said?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4T7Rgm_2w8
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

Darmik posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

It's fine in theory, but she believes games she doesn't hold up to her standards should be modified or not sold.

Where was that ever said?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4T7Rgm_2w8

Is there a timestamp?
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She makes a good point though.

I think she does have some good points, but also a lot of not good points.
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HitTheGroundWal posted...

I think she does have some good points, but also a lot of not good points.

yep
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

Darmik posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

It's fine in theory, but she believes games she doesn't hold up to her standards should be modified or not sold.

Where was that ever said?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4T7Rgm_2w8

That's a 20 minute video and most of it is some guy whining. The first minute didn't have her saying anything of the kind so please at least tell us where in the video she said this.

All I see is her saying "we should have more unsexy women in games because sexy game heroes are cliche" which is totally different from calling for an all-out ban of something. Saying "I hope I never see ___ again because I'm sick of it" is completely different from censoring or trying to ban it.
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Darmik posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

It's fine in theory, but she believes games she doesn't hold up to her standards should be modified or not sold.

Where was that ever said?

The closest I am aware of is some article on Kotaku about a list of changes she'd like to see made to games in general. From 2015.

Don't design such sexy female characters, don't include scenes of violence against female characters in which they are treated as helpless, design female characters to be less traditionally feminine, half of playable characters (preferably more) should be female, change how female characters are animated, change how female characters sound in combat (some nonsense about orgasmic grunts), don't include sexualized elements with violence, etc.

Beyond that, it's mostly implied by talking about games having a problem (I think pernicious is the word she used) with the depiction of women. And activists don't tend to talk about problems they don't want fixed. That isn't the same as "games that I don't like shouldn't be sold", but I do get a "games shouldn't include content we think is problematic" vibe from her.
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Esrac posted...

The closest I am aware of is some article on Kotaku about a list of changes she'd like to see made to games in general. From 2015.

The Kotaku article called '8 Things Developers can do to make things less shitty for women"?
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As a woman I don't have a problem with current video games. I don't feel exploited, disrespected or victimized by any video games.
I honestly don't buy into SJW or feminist rhetoric.
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The poll is dishonest. That's not what she wants at all.
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Anita Sarkeesian is scum she doesn't care about video games, all she cares about is milking money out of idiots.

Esrac posted...

Darmik posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

It's fine in theory, but she believes games she doesn't hold up to her standards should be modified or not sold.

Where was that ever said?

The closest I am aware of is some article on Kotaku about a list of changes she'd like to see made to games in general. From 2015.

Don't design such sexy female characters, don't include scenes of violence against female characters in which they are treated as helpless, design female characters to be less traditionally feminine, half of playable characters (preferably more) should be female, change how female characters are animated, change how female characters sound in combat (some nonsense about orgasmic grunts), don't include sexualized elements with violence, etc.

Beyond that, it's mostly implied by talking about games having a problem (I think pernicious is the word she used) with the depiction of women. And activists don't tend to talk about problems they don't want fixed. That isn't the same as "games that I don't like shouldn't be sold", but I do get a "games shouldn't include content we think is problematic" vibe from her.

She seems to want to replace current games with ones she deems more respectful to women.
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No, I don't agree with a con artist on anything.
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Darmik posted...

Esrac posted...

The closest I am aware of is some article on Kotaku about a list of changes she'd like to see made to games in general. From 2015.

The Kotaku article called '8 Things Developers can do to make things less shitty for women"?

I think that's the one.
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