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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 2:18:51 PM
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She nominated it for every category and harped on it enough that they actually let it start winning categories. It's a fucking dating sim!

So some character from it named Damien wins best character, which is some stereotype Hot Topic goth who, as a twist, is a trans man! This daddy was a woman! Isn't that so progressive and fun?? So it won't best character, fucking ridiculous.

And then winning best cast of characters as well, because Abby thinks they are very, very, very, good! There is very good... stuff.
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Burgess
01/07/18 2:21:42 PM
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-I think Cuphead should be higher

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Smashingpmkns
01/07/18 2:23:49 PM
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I've grown to find her very insufferable and I'm only on the second episode. I don't mind dissenting opinions, but she has no reasoning behind any of them. And all of her picks are actually bad.
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LooksLikeDarko
01/07/18 2:24:59 PM
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I really enjoy Abby's contributions to the Beastcast, but I found her hard to listen to in the GOTY deliberations. For best music, I felt like she kept shitting on Nier over and over even when it was obvious that it had support of the group. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Hopefully she'll learn from this and be better next year
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Burgess
01/07/18 2:25:08 PM
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You have to look at her ass to win the game there's no other way. Also this game that I didn't even play should win a category because I don't really know shit about it but whatever.
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giantblimpN7
01/07/18 2:25:52 PM
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She actually ruined those videos for me. I had to stop watching. I was totally fine with her championing Dream Daddy and Cuphead, but she had zero argument for or against anything. She literally just started making things up.
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 6:31:19 PM
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I finally am listening to the GOTY discussion and Jeff asked her if she wants to keep Dream Daddy. Here's the actual start of her rant.

"I would fight hard for Dream Daddy. I think Dream Daddy is very good. I am not a dating sim person... I know that the writing is not for everyone, it's a very particular style, but I think it is very good. I think it's very funny. I think it's very effective at what it does. I just think it's a lot of fun and it's very engaging. I think it is very good."
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Turbam
01/07/18 6:37:50 PM
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Anyone here play Dream Daddy?
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EverDownward
01/07/18 6:38:53 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
lol is that the new meme game of the year or something

it came out earlier this year. game grumps made it, i think. in any case, it's a very progressive game.
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 6:41:23 PM
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Lol Dan is destroying her on this and is the only one willing to do so. Saying there are a million of these all over Steam, and she's like but this one is different!

Yet you just said you don't play the other ones so how do you know? Owned.
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Autocraticus
01/07/18 6:41:25 PM
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EverDownward posted...
16-BITTER posted...
lol is that the new meme game of the year or something

it came out earlier this year. game grumps made it, i think. in any case, it's a very progressive game.


I think the word you were looking for is "pandering," not progressive.
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 6:41:50 PM
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EverDownward posted...
16-BITTER posted...
lol is that the new meme game of the year or something

it came out earlier this year. game grumps made it, i think. in any case, it's a very progressive game.


Progressive meaning...
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EverDownward
01/07/18 6:43:25 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
I'm assuming he means progressive in term of theme and not progressive in terms of being anything other than a dog-shit dating sim.

Literally this
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 6:43:30 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
I'm assuming he means progressive in term of theme and not progressive in terms of being anything other than a dog-shit dating sim.


Which means what.
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EverDownward
01/07/18 6:43:37 PM
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Autocraticus posted...
EverDownward posted...
16-BITTER posted...
lol is that the new meme game of the year or something

it came out earlier this year. game grumps made it, i think. in any case, it's a very progressive game.


I think the word you were looking for is "pandering," not progressive.

Also, this. Yes.
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 6:46:46 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
16-BITTER posted...
I'm assuming he means progressive in term of theme and not progressive in terms of being anything other than a dog-shit dating sim.


Which means what.

Progressive as in LGBT content and not progressive as in doing something new in the context of dating sims.


Right so it's got man on man action so that's what this is really about
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Dark_Spiret
01/07/18 6:49:01 PM
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i actually had to take my headphones off for a minute at several points cause i was actually getting pissed at her talking.
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 6:54:57 PM
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So I didn't even realize what this was. I thought you were playing as a single mom or something trying to find a dad. But what you actually are is a dad with a daughter and you're trying to find... another dad.
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Esrac
01/07/18 7:18:37 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
I finally am listening to the GOTY discussion and Jeff asked her if she wants to keep Dream Daddy. Here's the actual start of her rant.

"I would fight hard for Dream Daddy. I think Dream Daddy is very good. I am not a dating sim person... I know that the writing is not for everyone, it's a very particular style, but I think it is very good. I think it's very funny. I think it's very effective at what it does. I just think it's a lot of fun and it's very engaging. I think it is very good."


That's like a 4th grade writing assignment level paragraph.
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Muflaggin
01/07/18 7:55:02 PM
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Esrac posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I finally am listening to the GOTY discussion and Jeff asked her if she wants to keep Dream Daddy. Here's the actual start of her rant.

"I would fight hard for Dream Daddy. I think Dream Daddy is very good. I am not a dating sim person... I know that the writing is not for everyone, it's a very particular style, but I think it is very good. I think it's very funny. I think it's very effective at what it does. I just think it's a lot of fun and it's very engaging. I think it is very good."


That's like a 4th grade writing assignment level paragraph.

Her and Ben are the worst hires on the site ever. I won't hear otherwise.
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Delirious_Beard
01/07/18 7:57:30 PM
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she was basically the worst
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 8:04:23 PM
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What makes this whole thing worse is that Jeff has a personal vendetta against Uncharted, so he's willing to prop up this nonsense to keep Uncharted off the list. Ultimately he gets to decide what wins.
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sutree
01/07/18 8:09:53 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
I finally am listening to the GOTY discussion and Jeff asked her if she wants to keep Dream Daddy. Here's the actual start of her rant.

"I would fight hard for Dream Daddy. I think Dream Daddy is very good. I am not a dating sim person... I know that the writing is not for everyone, it's a very particular style, but I think it is very good. I think it's very funny. I think it's very effective at what it does. I just think it's a lot of fun and it's very engaging. I think it is very good."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh79iPi-y-c

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Delirious_Beard
01/07/18 8:11:01 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
What makes this whole thing worse is that Jeff has a personal vendetta against Uncharted, so he's willing to prop up this nonsense to keep Uncharted off the list. Ultimately he gets to decide what wins.


jeff just has taste
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Coffeebeanz
01/07/18 8:15:38 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
So I didn't even realize what this was. I thought you were playing as a single mom or something trying to find a dad. But what you actually are is a dad with a daughter and you're trying to find... another dad.


I have nothing against this at all,given that I'm bisexual. That said, I do have a problem with movies like Brokeback Mountain and games like this winning "Of the Year" awards because of their political message, especially when there were other titles (notably Doki Doki Literature Club) that were far more creative and memorable in the same genre.
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JustMonika
01/07/18 8:18:57 PM
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I don't even get how it's progressive.

LGBT dating sims are not some new concept.
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Banjo2553
01/07/18 8:30:55 PM
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JustMonika posted...
I don't even get how it's progressive.

LGBT dating sims are not some new concept.

It got attention because Game Grumps were behind it.
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XplodnPnguins92
01/07/18 8:33:18 PM
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she needs to be more like jan and stfu.
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BuckVanHammer
01/07/18 8:34:42 PM
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Yeah I had a hard time finishing them this year. Mostly because of that shit. I like Abby on the casts, but that shit was annoying.
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DocileOrangeCup
01/07/18 8:40:20 PM
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yeah i am not gonna play that game lol. i have slowly gotten tired of the grumps and this isn't helping,
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KazumaKiryu
01/07/18 8:58:22 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
JustMonika posted...
I don't even get how it's progressive.

LGBT dating sims are not some new concept.

It got attention because Game Grumps were behind it.


I don't understand why Game Grumps would make something like this...
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KazumaKiryu
01/08/18 12:29:27 PM
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Ahhhh now I know why she's against Nier, because it sexualizes women.
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Muflaggin
01/08/18 4:27:36 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What makes this whole thing worse is that Jeff has a personal vendetta against Uncharted, so he's willing to prop up this nonsense to keep Uncharted off the list. Ultimately he gets to decide what wins.


jeff just has taste

This. Bless him for that.

XplodnPnguins92 posted...
she needs to be more like jan and stfu.

Jan, in the few times he's spoken, is infinitely more likeable.
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KazumaKiryu
01/08/18 4:30:03 PM
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Jeff does has taste and I consider him an expert. However, he hates mostly everything, and he would totally hate this Dream Daddy shit if he wasn't using to leverage against Uncharted.
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NeonOctopus
01/08/18 4:30:33 PM
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I'm in Day 3. It's fine so far but she can get a little annoying. When does she start trashing Nier and pimping Dream Daddy? >_>
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MC_BatCommander
01/08/18 4:31:08 PM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
Yeah I had a hard time finishing them this year. Mostly because of that shit. I like Abby on the casts, but that shit was annoying.


She's terrible at articulating her opinion on things.

"I think it's very good" has been said so many fucking times it's driving me insane. Like, at one point Jeff even started blatantly making fun of her for saying "very good" over and over and she just keeps on doing it.

I feel like everyone in general weren't making very good arguments this year. Maybe they should considering revamping the process so we don't have to listen to them argue over what counts as "best world" for 45 fucking minutes.
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KazumaKiryu
01/08/18 4:33:20 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
BuckVanHammer posted...
Yeah I had a hard time finishing them this year. Mostly because of that shit. I like Abby on the casts, but that shit was annoying.


She's terrible at articulating her opinion on things.

"I think it's very good" has been said so many fucking times it's driving me insane. Like, at one point Jeff even started blatantly making fun of her for saying "very good" over and over and she just keeps on doing it.

I feel like everyone in general weren't making very good arguments this year. Maybe they should considering revamping the process so we don't have to listen to them argue over what counts as "best world" for 45 fucking minutes.


When does he do this? I don't think I caught that but I still have like 1.5 hours left...
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MC_BatCommander
01/08/18 4:35:25 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
BuckVanHammer posted...
Yeah I had a hard time finishing them this year. Mostly because of that shit. I like Abby on the casts, but that shit was annoying.


She's terrible at articulating her opinion on things.

"I think it's very good" has been said so many fucking times it's driving me insane. Like, at one point Jeff even started blatantly making fun of her for saying "very good" over and over and she just keeps on doing it.

I feel like everyone in general weren't making very good arguments this year. Maybe they should considering revamping the process so we don't have to listen to them argue over what counts as "best world" for 45 fucking minutes.


When does he do this? I don't think I caught that but I still have like 1.5 hours left...


Can't remember, it would have been earlier on like day 1 or 2. She's talking about some game and he says "so you're saying this game is very good?"
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giantblimpN7
01/08/18 4:36:40 PM
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The whole process is kind of dumb. I appreciate the transparency, but there seems to be zero self awareness when they put out a video like best world and the fact that goty was 5 fucking hours.
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spanky1
01/08/18 4:37:06 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
I finally am listening to the GOTY discussion and Jeff asked her if she wants to keep Dream Daddy. Here's the actual start of her rant.

"I would fight hard for Dream Daddy. I think Dream Daddy is very good. I am not a dating sim person... I know that the writing is not for everyone, it's a very particular style, but I think it is very good. I think it's very funny. I think it's very effective at what it does. I just think it's a lot of fun and it's very engaging. I think it is very good."

Just checking and making sure, but you're just paraphrasing and kind of exaggerating here, right? This isn't a literal quote, I'm assuming?
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KazumaKiryu
01/08/18 4:37:07 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Can't remember, it would have been earlier on like day 1 or 2. She's talking about some game and he says "so you're saying this game is very good?"


haha. She really says it about everything. It's very, very good. I think it's a very good game. It does a lot of very good stuff.
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KazumaKiryu
01/08/18 4:38:10 PM
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spanky1 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I finally am listening to the GOTY discussion and Jeff asked her if she wants to keep Dream Daddy. Here's the actual start of her rant.

"I would fight hard for Dream Daddy. I think Dream Daddy is very good. I am not a dating sim person... I know that the writing is not for everyone, it's a very particular style, but I think it is very good. I think it's very funny. I think it's very effective at what it does. I just think it's a lot of fun and it's very engaging. I think it is very good."

Just checking and making sure, but you're just paraphrasing and kind of exaggerating here, right? This isn't a literal quote, I'm assuming?


It's a literal quote that I typed as I listened. It's all word for word although to be fair, I did skip a few sentences at the end to get to the next "I think it is very good" line.
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KazumaKiryu
01/09/18 11:46:17 AM
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*4 hours in*

Abby - I still think Cuphead should be higher on this list, I think it is very goo--

Jeff - YES, yes, we know!

Brad - Yeah I think that ship has sailed...
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KazumaKiryu
01/09/18 12:33:53 PM
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I finally finished listening and it's so appropriate that the very last words spoken before it cuts off are Dan saying "Holy shit!"
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Muflaggin
01/09/18 3:55:11 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
I'm in Day 3. It's fine so far but she can get a little annoying. When does she start trashing Nier and pimping Dream Daddy? >_>

Anytime it's brought up. Like literally every time. She took any pot shot she could at it. For the all talk of Dan being immature he was the exact opposite of that. He acknowledged there were cool things about it.
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