Current Events > Support for LGBT people have declined in the US.

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*has declined

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/americans-less-comfortable-lgbt-people-now-172719953.html

A new study released by GLAAD on Thursday found a significant decline in overall comfort and acceptance of LGBTQ people. This marks the first time in this particular studys four-year history that the numbers have declined.

The survey, conducted by Harris Insights and Analytics, is an online poll that measures the American publics views on lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBTQ) people and issues. Through a series of questions, non-LGBTQ people are asked to rate their comfort level in various situations involving LGBTQ people from LGBTQ weddings to school curriculum that includes LGBTQ history.

In every single situation, comfort level declined from last year. Three areas where discomfort showed a significant increase were learning a family member is LGBTQ, learning my childs teacher is LGBTQ, and learning my doctor is LGBTQ. The backward step included a reduced number of allies (non-LGBTQ respondents who were either very or somewhat comfortable in all situations) and increased number of detached supporters (non-LGBTQ respondents whose comfort level varied).

The results are emblematic of a tumultuous and often discouraging year for LGBTQ rights and marginalized communities as a whole. Its an issue that permeated the news since the election of President Trump, who after supporting the LGBTQ community on the campaign trail has taken active measures to limit their civil rights.

The most incendiary move came in July, when Trump declared on Twitter that transgender people would not be allowed to serve in the military. His reasoning, that America couldnt afford the tremendous medical costs and disruption, was quickly shut down by experts who noted that the military doesnt cover gender transition surgeries. In October, a district judge ruled to block the Pentagon from enacting the proposal, at least for now.

But to many in the LGBTQ community who have spent decades fighting for acceptance, the hateful rhetoric that his proposed ban seemed to engender was damaging enough. In its wake came another blow in November, when a Mississippi law allowing businesses to deny services to LGBTQ people officially went into effect.

To those at GLAAD, the poll is an unfortunate reflection of the state of LGBTQ relations in the country at present. This year, the acceptance pendulum abruptly stopped and swung in the opposite direction, GLAAD CEO and President Sarah Kate Ellis writes in the report. Ellis notes that with the increase in discomfort came a significant increase in LGBTQ people reporting discrimination because of their identity. This change can be seen as a dangerous repercussion in the tenor of discourse and experience over the last year, says Ellis.

While the results of the study may appear discouraging at face value, Ellis added that the fight is far from over. Forward progress ebbs and flows in every social justice movement, she writes. Progress for marginalized communities is a pendulum that swings in both directions and, when well-supported, ultimately lands on freedom.

That's a damn shame.
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One of my doctors acts a little bit effeminately and talks with a lisp, but he's married so I don't know what to make of it.

A lot of people in town think he might be a closeted gay, but it's never really bothered me. He's always been super professional.
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"Who are the LGBT again? Oh, that group that sues all the bakeries."
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I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.
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tremain07 posted...

I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.

I think the Q means they can't figure out what gender they are.
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tremain07 posted...

I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.

Q as in the Godlike entity from Star Trek: The Next Generation
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tremain07 posted...

I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.

Questioning (their sexuality) typically.
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What rights have been threatened, again?
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snesmaster40 posted...

tremain07 posted...

I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.

Q as in the Godlike entity from Star Trek: The Next Generation

I think Q was male.
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darkjedilink posted...

What rights have been threatened, again?

Their right to buy cakes.
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It's not surprising with how ridiculous and obnoxious a lot of them are being about things like bathrooms and genders and children
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darkjedilink posted...

What rights have been threatened, again?

The most incendiary move came in July, when Trump declared on Twitter that transgender people would not be allowed to serve in the military. His reasoning, that America couldnt afford the tremendous medical costs and disruption, was quickly shut down by experts who noted that the military doesnt cover gender transition surgeries. In October, a district judge ruled to block the Pentagon from enacting the proposal, at least for now.

In its wake came another blow in November, when a Mississippi law allowing businesses to deny services to LGBTQ people officially went into effect.

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Things like this will ebb and flow. I wouldn't be too concerned.
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Like what happened at Planet Fitness. A fully anatomical dude went into the women's locker room, made a lot of women uncomfortable, and when one of them complain, the gym just cancelled her membership. Stuff like that will piss a lot of people off.
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Steve Nick posted...

snesmaster40 posted...

tremain07 posted...

I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.

Q as in the Godlike entity from Star Trek: The Next Generation

I think Q was male.

Did you just assume Q's gender
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tremain07 posted...

those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT

this is the only part I hate. I don't care if you are gay or trans or whatever. but little kids that haven't even hit puberty are just kids, nothing more. parents that try to claim their kids are gay or trans should be put in prison

daftpunk_mk5 posted...

Like what happened at Planet Fitness. A fully anatomical dude went into the women's locker room, made a lot of women uncomfortable, and when one of them complain, the gym just cancelled her membership. Stuff like that will piss a lot of people off.

Is that not like reasonable? Not the cancelling of her membership but women feeling uncomfortable. I mean if you're older than like 4 and not with your mom but you have a dick maybe not go in the women's room? I dunno.
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thanosibe posted...

daftpunk_mk5 posted...

Like what happened at Planet Fitness. A fully anatomical dude went into the women's locker room, made a lot of women uncomfortable, and when one of them complain, the gym just cancelled her membership. Stuff like that will piss a lot of people off.

Is that not like reasonable? Not the cancelling of her membership but women feeling uncomfortable. I mean if you're older than like 4 and not with your mom but you have a dick maybe not go in the women's room? I dunno.

They banned the lady who complained
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Thanks, Trump.
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snesmaster40 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

snesmaster40 posted...

tremain07 posted...

I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.

Q as in the Godlike entity from Star Trek: The Next Generation

I think Q was male.

Did you just assume Q's gender

No. He assumed Q's sex. You may now resume the quipping.
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...

thanosibe posted...

daftpunk_mk5 posted...

Like what happened at Planet Fitness. A fully anatomical dude went into the women's locker room, made a lot of women uncomfortable, and when one of them complain, the gym just cancelled her membership. Stuff like that will piss a lot of people off.

Is that not like reasonable? Not the cancelling of her membership but women feeling uncomfortable. I mean if you're older than like 4 and not with your mom but you have a dick maybe not go in the women's room? I dunno.

They banned the lady who complained

Oh ok. I misread your comment then. I thought you meant they banned the transgendered person. Nevermind then. In that case Planet Fitness was wrong.
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...

It's not surprising with how ridiculous and obnoxious a lot of them are being about things like bathrooms and genders and children

The obnoxious behaviour is definitely the worst. I remember one infamous trans gaming journalist who threw a tantrum over the new Catherine remaster due to it possibly having a trap.

hollow_shrine posted...

snesmaster40 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

snesmaster40 posted...

tremain07 posted...

I say it's a combination of Trump's crap, plus those weird people who say their toddlers and 8 year olds are LGBT that caused the reverse and the Q part just completely sent it into a back peddle. I still don't understand what the Q is.

Q as in the Godlike entity from Star Trek: The Next Generation

I think Q was male.

Did you just assume Q's gender

No. He assumed Q's sex. You may now resume the quipping.

:(
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What bathroom should a biological male who has a penis but is trying to appear to be a woman go into?

The questions that plague our nation...

Honestly I think the answer is that if you're 'something in between' male and female, you should go into the men's restroom, because men don't really give a shit who is in their bathroom, while women do care.
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No to sound celebrative, but the obnoxious, LOUD, and insane part of that group brought it amongst themselves. ('-' )
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SJWs have hurt the gay cause more than they've helped.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

darkjedilink posted...

What rights have been threatened, again?

The most incendiary move came in July, when Trump declared on Twitter that transgender people would not be allowed to serve in the military. His reasoning, that America couldnt afford the tremendous medical costs and disruption, was quickly shut down by experts who noted that the military doesnt cover gender transition surgeries. In October, a district judge ruled to block the Pentagon from enacting the proposal, at least for now.

In its wake came another blow in November, when a Mississippi law allowing businesses to deny services to LGBTQ people officially went into effect.

So, no rights were taken away?

In the military, you have no rights, and nobody has a right to force people to do business with them.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

SJWs have hurt the gay cause more than they've helped.

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Steve Nick posted...

What bathroom should a biological male who has a penis but is trying to appear to be a woman go into?

The questions that plague our nation...

Honestly I think the answer is that if you're 'something in between' male and female, you should go into the men's restroom, because men don't really give a shit who is in their bathroom, while women do care.

But men do care, have you not seen how most men react to a gay person or a trans person, especially if they don't know the person is trans and finds out later? Things get violent very quickly
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tremain07 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

What bathroom should a biological male who has a penis but is trying to appear to be a woman go into?

The questions that plague our nation...

Honestly I think the answer is that if you're 'something in between' male and female, you should go into the men's restroom, because men don't really give a shit who is in their bathroom, while women do care.

But men do care, have you not seen how most men react to a gay person or a trans person, especially if they don't know the person is trans and finds out later? Things get violent very quickly

You seem to be talking about something else away from the subject of bathrooms entirely. If a man has hate for those groups of people, then that's gonna be consistent regardless of what bathroom they're in.
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Honestly, it's likely because of the multiple genders thing and forcing children to be transgender that has annoyed a lot of people.

What happened to LGBT advocacy groups is what happens to most civil rights groups. After the major war is won (in this case, marriage) instead of laying down their arms and retiring to the countryside, they look for newer, much lesser battles to fight in order to stay relevant. And these "battles" are inconsequential and incredibly irrelevant to the majority public so this causes them to lose a lot of the goodwill they earned.
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I blame sjws
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Steve Nick posted...

Honestly I think the answer is that if you're 'something in between' male and female, you should go into the men's restroom, because men don't really give a s*** who is in their bathroom, while women do care.

i think more generally men's rooms could be relabeled general access with minimal issues

i see women in the mens room at every club, concert, music festival, etc i'm at anyway, and when i happen to see tits as a result it is not upsetting for me

it also does not slow down my bathroom trips in the slightest, it's never mass lines like womens' rooms are
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Now I don't agree with all that. If you're an obvious biological woman, go to the fucking women's room. This is my space.

I don't mind sharing the space with people who have nowhere else to go, but I'm not sharing it with some uppity chick that just doesn't want to wait in her own damn line.
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eh

most women will not choose mens' room with no line over womens' room with a line

its not gonna clog up our space because they're afraid of us
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

SJWs have hurt the gay cause more than they've helped.

I think this is true.
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DevsBro posted...

"Who are the LGBT again? Oh, that group that sues all the bakeries."

The bakery doxxed that couple.
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Nomadic View posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

SJWs have hurt the gay cause more than they've helped.

I think this is true.

SJWs are a tiny fraction of LGBT allies, though. most allies have helped quite a lot.
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tldr, "wahh they don't support laws dictating pronouns and other such bullshit yet they still support equal rights"
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Darkman124 posted...

Nomadic View posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

SJWs have hurt the gay cause more than they've helped.

I think this is true.

SJWs are a tiny fraction of LGBT allies, though. most allies have helped quite a lot.

They are the loudest, though. And the vocal minority tends to have the side effect of painting the entire group as that.
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So the entire LGBT community should suffer because you dont like hearing about a couple whackjobs? Fuck outta here with that noise.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

They are the loudest, though. And the vocal minority tends to have the side effect of painting the entire group as that.

if republicans don't want to apologize for white supremacists i don't feel a great motivation to apologize for big red

she sucks though

but it's less the vocal minority paints your group as X and more the opposition seizes on the vocal minority to paint your group as X

which also discourages condemnation of said vocal minorities by the majority.
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hyperpsycho posted...

DevsBro posted...

"Who are the LGBT again? Oh, that group that sues all the bakeries."

The bakery doxxed that couple.

Literally not why the couple sued.
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Darkman124 posted...

Nomadic View posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

SJWs have hurt the gay cause more than they've helped.

I think this is true.

SJWs are a tiny fraction of LGBT allies, though. most allies have helped quite a lot.

Yeah, they are a tiny fraction, but theyre incredibly vocal. Pushing things like prepubertal sex change surgery and divulging in delusions with people suffering from gender dysphoria are pushing people away from modern LBGT.
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darkjedilink posted...

hyperpsycho posted...

DevsBro posted...

"Who are the LGBT again? Oh, that group that sues all the bakeries."

The bakery doxxed that couple.

Literally not why the couple sued.

Discrimination is a valid reason to sue. I hate sjws as much as anyone else but the bakery had it coming.
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CrimsonRage posted...

"I hate SJWs so Imma start hating gay people now"

sounds logical /s

What they "measured" was "comfort level", not polling on rights issues. Other than absolute fuck wits on youtube (Bearing), no one is pulling their support for gay marriage over "muh leftist overreach"
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Here's the problem. Stop equating gay and lesbian with the transgender madness. I think most everyone is just fine with gay people. But when you start lumping them all together with the ultra pc insanity of choosing your own sex, demanding genderless bathrooms everywhere and claiming there's more that 2 sexes. All that support goes out the window. Because you've now mixed reality with abrasive madness. "You support it all or you're Hitler!" You're not rallying people to your cause that way. In fact your pissing people off.
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having the constant PC culture being shoved down peoples throats now im sure doesnt help.
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Rika_Furude posted...

darkjedilink posted...

hyperpsycho posted...

DevsBro posted...

"Who are the LGBT again? Oh, that group that sues all the bakeries."

The bakery doxxed that couple.

Literally not why the couple sued.

Discrimination is a valid reason to sue. I hate sjws as much as anyone else but the bakery had it coming.

No, they didn't. Businesses have a right to refuse service for any reason.
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