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gamepimp12
01/26/18 1:00:59 PM
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cause holy shit everything isn't social justice warrior shit.
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DragonGirlYuki
01/26/18 1:01:56 PM
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We don't like bad writing or including a character just to tick off a box.
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gamepimp12
01/26/18 1:07:50 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
We don't like bad writing or including a character just to tick off a box.


I mean obviously bad writing is bad writing.

But I don't see the issue of the wave of new minority characters or the race/sex/gender swapping of some characters. It's them correcting a past mistake

Like it's some people on here who don't like when the main character of the game doesn't look like them.
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AverageCEgal
01/26/18 1:10:35 PM
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lol correcting a mistake
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gamepimp12
01/26/18 1:16:33 PM
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AverageCEgal posted...
lol correcting a mistake


Medium's of the past ignoring minority characters or art in order to Greater appeal to white people isn't a mistake ?

People always say the idea of BET is racist but when mtv wouldn't put on black acts it was necessary
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C_Pain
01/26/18 1:17:36 PM
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I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.
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Fishy
01/26/18 1:21:24 PM
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C_Pain posted...
I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.

There's a right way and a wrong way to do it though. Like maybe not fucking kill Spiderman and replace him with a black/Latino Spiderman?
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gamepimp12
01/26/18 1:21:37 PM
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C_Pain posted...
I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.


See I'm personally against race swaps because it's lazy, but I do see the appeal in them
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gamepimp12
01/26/18 1:24:30 PM
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You're missing a word or two
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DragonGirlYuki
01/26/18 1:24:33 PM
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Palette swapped ninjas were pretty funny, but that was used to address system limitations back in the day. Funny how getting around system limitations ended up resulting in iconic characters.
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specialkid8
01/26/18 1:34:13 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Medium's of the past ignoring minority characters or art in order to Greater appeal to white people isn't a mistake ?


No. The largest demographic for most media is 18-40 or so white males. it makes sense that they're catered to to an extent. I'm fine with minority characters but there is no problem to be fixed and just slapping a black dude on something and calling it a day doesnt make me feel like creators really care to begin wirh.
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KILBOTz
01/26/18 1:35:41 PM
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I'd say i feel like there is a part of CE that just hates minorities.
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AmericaTheBrave
01/26/18 1:36:27 PM
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@C_Pain posted...
I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.


You hate minority characters?
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gamepimp12
01/26/18 1:37:22 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
Medium's of the past ignoring minority characters or art in order to Greater appeal to white people isn't a mistake ?


No. The largest demographic for most media is 18-40 or so white males. it makes sense that they're catered to to an extent. I'm fine with minority characters but there is no problem to be fixed and just slapping a black dude on something and calling it a day doesnt make me feel like creators really care to begin wirh.


It's a difference between in catering to a demographic and almost completely ignoring the others.
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C_Pain
01/26/18 3:38:29 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
@C_Pain posted...
I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.


You hate minority characters?

no im part of the alt right
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boxington
01/26/18 3:48:33 PM
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C_Pain posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...
@C_Pain posted...
I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.


You hate minority characters?

no im part of the alt right

so...you hate minority characters?
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DragonGirlYuki
01/26/18 3:49:33 PM
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Are you a racist if you kill a minority character in a game?
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EverDownward
01/26/18 3:51:34 PM
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I absolutely love The Suffering, and Torque was a great character.
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Zikten
01/26/18 4:07:52 PM
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I dislike black Nick Fury because I prefer the original. I think he's more badass. most people don't realize that it was more than just a skin swap. they actually are different people. the new Nick Fury everyone knows is just a guy who ranks high in SHIELD. but there is nothing super normal about him. original white Fury took a lesser dose of the stuff that Cap took and it slowed down his aging. he is actually around the same age as Cap. except instead of being froze he lived through all that time and just aged very very very slowly. he is a veteran of WW2. black Fury wasnt even alive when WW2 happened. that is why I like original Fury

and on the flip side I love Kamala Khan, a muslim girl that has stretchy powers. so it's not black and white. And I think it's like that for alot of fans. when we badmouth someone who just happens to not be white, before we can even say why we don't like them, someone screams at us. And when we praise non white characters, the SJW's conveniently ignore it or claim to not see us say that.
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C_Pain
01/26/18 6:41:53 PM
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boxington posted...
C_Pain posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...
@C_Pain posted...
I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.


You hate minority characters?

no im part of the alt right

so...you hate minority characters?

i said i disagree with that perspective that they have

im a centrist
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C_Pain
01/26/18 6:50:21 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
C_Pain posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...
@C_Pain posted...
I'm a part of that group but I still see why people like it. Conservatives don't understand that everyone likes their group to appear in stuff.


You hate minority characters?

no im part of the alt right


ummmmm aren't you jewish?

lmao weren't you the guy who asked that before

You're so bewildered when I act radical right wing just because I'm Jewish. Amusing.

I was just joking, I'm a centrist, but I can kinda understand where the 'racist' right wingers who hate minority casting are coming from. Like I see their perspective, but I disagree.
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Axiom
01/26/18 6:53:38 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
cause holy shit everything isn't social justice warrior shit.

This is a problem with a section of gamers in general. Anything that features a minority character gets called an SJW game. Female characters that aren't created to be jerk-off bait get shit on as well as "SJW". Horizon Zero Dawn board was a cesspool before it came out
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metralo
01/26/18 6:53:40 PM
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you're just now realizing that a ton of users on this board are racist as fuck?
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AverageCEgal
01/26/18 6:53:54 PM
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did you mean that writers were wrong to have white superheroes and they should be minorites
like make clark kent black
or do you mean like miles morales is spiderman and not white but peter parker is still white
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C_Pain
01/26/18 6:55:35 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
C_Pain posted...
lmao weren't you the guy who asked that before

You're so bewildered when I act radical right wing just because I'm Jewish. Amusing.

I was just joking, I'm a centrist, but I can kinda understand where the 'racist' right wingers who hate minority casting are coming from. Like I see their perspective, but I disagree.


i had no idea of your political leanings before this topic actually

being a right-winger Jew is one thing, but an alt-right Jew? that's an ideology actively hostile to us so it's very weird

Yeah I find the jewish conspiracy part of the radical right quite odd. The jews are just a high iq ethnic group and since they focus so much on race and iq you think they would admire them.
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Southernfatman
01/26/18 6:56:11 PM
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The only thing I don't like is switching races of established characters (most of the time). I hate being lumped in with actual racists because of that.
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darkjedilink
01/26/18 6:59:03 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
A lot CE doesnt understand that not everything needs to be catered directly to them and they can still enjoy or even just have no opinion on things that arent.

Why doesn't this logic apply to minorities?
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Axiom
01/26/18 7:03:57 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
A lot CE doesnt understand that not everything needs to be catered directly to them and they can still enjoy or even just have no opinion on things that arent.

Why doesn't this logic apply to minorities?

Minorities have been enjoying media that didn't feature them for hundreds of years
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gamepimp12
01/26/18 10:17:05 PM
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AverageCEgal posted...
did you mean that writers were wrong to have white superheroes and they should be minorites
like make clark kent black
or do you mean like miles morales is spiderman and not white but peter parker is still white


Im not sureeee what youre asking so ill Just cleanly state much stance

Superheros where overwhelming white in the past and society is now correcting that with an influx of race swaps and brand new characters.

Race swaps are lazy but they have such a huge and nearly instant impact I can see why the do it.
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AverageCEgal
01/27/18 12:33:46 PM
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Well, I can understand race swaps from new stories, like ultimate Nick Fury.
They even went with him for the movie.
But I would be annoyed if they ignored the white version completely. If someone wants to put in 616 nick then let them.

Brand new characters are actually pretty good. It bothers me if say we magically have a female Dr doom in movies without exposing why it's a that way since doom is male like.
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