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Darmik
02/05/18 5:54:02 PM
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https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/02/source-capcom-lays-off-staff-cuts-scope-on-next-dead-rising/

Capcom has laid off a significant number of staff in its Vancouver office as part of a shift that saw the company cancel an unannounced project and cut scope on the next Dead Rising, according to a person familiar with the company as well as various posts on social media.

The source, who spoke anonymously so as not to risk their career, said around 50 people were laid off as part of a reorganization aimed to streamline the company and wrangle the next Dead Rising, which had been over-scoped and under-staffed (as many video games are).

Per Linkedin, Capcom Vancouver had around 250 employees. The studio is best known for developing the second, third, and fourth games in Capcom's humorous zombie-killing series.

The unannounced game, which was a very early prototype and had not yet been greenlit, was envisioned as a third-person action-adventure game set in an alternate reality version of New York, the source said.

Capcom Vancouver also works on mobile games including last year's Puzzle Fighter and other unannounced projects.

Capcom did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


I'm surprised they're even making a new Dead Rising. Maybe a limited scope will be a good thing but the more likely scenario is that it'll be another stinker.
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Reis
02/05/18 5:54:33 PM
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Thanks SFV
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LordFarquad1312
02/05/18 5:57:19 PM
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More blood on Monster Hunter's hands.
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02/05/18 5:58:05 PM
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02/05/18 6:04:54 PM
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Darmik
02/05/18 11:33:02 PM
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It is nice to see that dumbing down the game significantly to try and get a more broad audience doesn't always work. Especially since in DR4's case the lead developers were almost telling the core fanbase to fuck off.
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Kelystic
02/05/18 11:36:22 PM
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Freddie_Mercury
02/05/18 11:36:29 PM
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rip dead rising
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Dark_SilverX
02/05/18 11:37:42 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
rip dead rising

Good. The whole series was pretty bad.
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GiftedACIII
02/05/18 11:38:34 PM
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So was that 4chan rumor about the new game with a lot of return to the old mechanics and DR4 being non-canon confirmed fake now? Goddamn it.
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Darmik
02/05/18 11:38:41 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
rip dead rising

Good. The whole series was pretty bad.


The first 2 are great. There's nothing else like them

DR3 was when the series became a meh open world zombie game. DR4 somehow got even worse.
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Darmik
02/05/18 11:39:54 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
So was that 4chan rumor about the new game with a lot of return to the old mechanics and DR4 being non-canon confirmed fake now? Goddamn it.


Well there is some sort of game in development. Who knows though.

They don't really need to make the game non-canon tbh. It's not like the overarching story is any good lol.
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SoundNetwork
02/05/18 11:42:45 PM
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lmao den dey kan 360 no scope
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GiftedACIII
02/05/18 11:43:52 PM
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Darmik posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
So was that 4chan rumor about the new game with a lot of return to the old mechanics and DR4 being non-canon confirmed fake now? Goddamn it.


Well there is some sort of game in development. Who knows though.

They don't really need to make the game non-canon tbh. It's not like the overarching story is any good lol.

Honestly I think Case West tied the first two games pretty well together. Then DR3 just had to do some 15 years in the future!!! thing, but the twist was still not bad. DR4 is bad fanfiction
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Darmik
02/05/18 11:45:24 PM
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I hope smaller scale means it isn't a city or large town in the next game.

Bring back those extremely interactive smaller sandboxes. Something like a cruise ship or a theme park resort would be great.
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Darmik
02/05/18 11:46:48 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Honestly I think Case West tied the first two games pretty well together. Then DR3 just had to do some 15 years in the future!!! thing, but the twist was still not bad. DR4 is bad fanfiction


Yeah it sucks. It can overall be ignored but I don't think they need to overly worry about retconning it specifically.
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Itachi157
02/05/18 11:48:37 PM
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I never got around to playing 3 and 4 but I really liked 1 and 2.
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Esrac
02/05/18 11:59:52 PM
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Darmik posted...
It is nice to see that dumbing down the game significantly to try and get a more broad audience doesn't always work. Especially since in DR4's case the lead developers were almost telling the core fanbase to fuck off.


Yeah? What did they say?
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D-Lo_BrownTown
02/06/18 12:00:53 AM
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Dead Rising 4 was a fucking disgrace so good.
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:03:36 AM
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Dead Rising 2 is one of my all time favorite games. Faaaaaaantastic!
Dead Rising 3 is a decent game. Kinda a step back, but fun.
I never played it but Dead Rising 4 was a total shit bomb. Please just go back to 2's gameplay.
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Darmik
02/06/18 12:05:59 AM
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Esrac posted...
Darmik posted...
It is nice to see that dumbing down the game significantly to try and get a more broad audience doesn't always work. Especially since in DR4's case the lead developers were almost telling the core fanbase to fuck off.


Yeah? What did they say?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIT0MBSac


They don't understand what made Frank West charming at all. They think he's some Ash Williams rip off. I don't think they even played the first game going by their comments. Whenever they talk about DR1 it's often completely wrong or they talk about how it wasn't fun.
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:12:25 AM
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I dont care what anyone says btw, Dead Rising NEEDS the time limit. That's what makes the game so unique.
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Darmik
02/06/18 12:18:18 AM
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SF_Okami posted...
I dont care what anyone says btw, Dead Rising NEEDS the time limit. That's what makes the game so unique.


In its current form it most certainly does.

If they want to ditch the time limit they need to completely revamp the game. The combat system isn't designed to be challenging. The zombies are more like an obstacle to slow you down than an actual threat to your life. But they haven't done this. Probably because they don't know what to replace it with outside of "Look at this cool and over the top weapon guys!"

I miss that regular absurdity of the original. Can't even throw pies anymore...
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GiftedACIII
02/06/18 12:22:28 AM
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Remember when you could have a tiger as a survivor? It's little things like that that made the first two so great.
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:24:34 AM
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Darmik posted...
SF_Okami posted...
I dont care what anyone says btw, Dead Rising NEEDS the time limit. That's what makes the game so unique.


In its current form it most certainly does.

If they want to ditch the time limit they need to completely revamp the game. The combat system isn't designed to be challenging. The zombies are more like an obstacle to slow you down than an actual threat to your life. But they haven't done this. Probably because they don't know what to replace it with outside of "Look at this cool and over the top weapon guys!"

I miss that regular absurdity of the original. Can't even throw pies anymore...

If I want a good zombie survival game, I will play State of Decay. Without the time limit it feels like an average game. Include a sandbox mode, but keep the time on the normal story.
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:25:45 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Remember when you could have a tiger as a survivor? It's little things like that that made the first two so great.

And that you can give it to Katey as a gift. So dumb and makes absolutely zero parental sense, but it shows the game had personality.
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50Blessings
02/06/18 12:26:21 AM
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I never got the time limit complaints

That's fucking Dead Rising.

I mean, if you want to add some mode that doesn't have a time limit, whatever. But like...WTF? That's like saying "I want Tetris but the bricks don't auto drop."
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:28:45 AM
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50Blessings posted...
I never got the time limit complaints

That's fucking Dead Rising.

I mean, if you want to add some mode that doesn't have a time limit, whatever. But like...WTF? That's like saying "I want Tetris but the bricks don't auto drop."

Because people are bad and fuck around all day. Also it makes it one of the few games that is physically impossible to speedrun lmaoThere was still plenty of time to fuck around in Dead Rising 2 if you were efficient in doing missions. But people just want to kill zombies.
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50Blessings
02/06/18 12:30:19 AM
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SF_Okami posted...
But people just want to kill zombies.


There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that even with the time limit in Dead Rising 1 (and I'm pretty sure 2)
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FightingGames
02/06/18 12:32:32 AM
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dodged a bullet there - I applied at Capcom Vancouver last year but didn't get an interview
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CableZL
02/06/18 12:32:36 AM
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Does this mean they've also cut the scope on Powerstone 3
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Darmik
02/06/18 12:32:55 AM
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It's especially annoying because any potential complaints about the time limit can easily be fixed to be more accessible. Sandbox mode for example. Or letting you restart from an earlier case or time instead of the very start.

But nah. People would rather whine about how it's hard and they don't want to play it more than once until it's changed and they don't buy the game anyway.
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:33:39 AM
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50Blessings posted...
SF_Okami posted...
But people just want to kill zombies.


There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that even with the time limit in Dead Rising 1 (and I'm pretty sure 2)

Agreed. But people are dumb >.>
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:36:08 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
All I want is Devil May Cry 5. Fuck literally anything else, aside from Nintendo vs. Capcom if they ever made that or a new Onimusha. Also Mega Man 11 could be good.

Nah, a new Okami game is most important.
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50Blessings
02/06/18 12:37:16 AM
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SF_Okami posted...
Agreed. But people are dumb >.>


Okay, yeah, cause I'm just like Jesus Christ these people are dumb for thinking that.

The fall of Dead Rising is probably one of those *things* that make me shake my head when people talk about how gaming is better than ever because Dead Rising 4 is like such a perfect example of everything wrong with gaming today.

Like I remember playing Dead Rising and just thinking "wow" when I played it last generation.

Dead Rising is a game with heart and soul. Dead Rising 4 is a fucking husk.
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Darmik
02/06/18 12:37:28 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
All I want is Devil May Cry 5. Fuck literally anything else, aside from Nintendo vs. Capcom if they ever made that or a new Onimusha. Also Mega Man 11 could be good.


I don't think you'd want Capcom Vancouver to make Devil May Cry.
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SF_Okami
02/06/18 12:49:26 AM
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50Blessings posted...
SF_Okami posted...
Agreed. But people are dumb >.>


Okay, yeah, cause I'm just like Jesus Christ these people are dumb for thinking that.

The fall of Dead Rising is probably one of those *things* that make me shake my head when people talk about how gaming is better than ever because Dead Rising 4 is like such a perfect example of everything wrong with gaming today.

Like I remember playing Dead Rising and just thinking "wow" when I played it last generation.

Dead Rising is a game with heart and soul. Dead Rising 4 is a fucking husk.

I cant tell if it is a cash grab or they actually thought that was best for the series.
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Bat178
02/06/18 12:54:44 AM
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That's what happens when you Westernize a series that doesn't need Westernizing.
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KCJ5062
02/06/18 12:57:42 AM
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I want a new Dino Crisis. I know DC3 was a terrible game, but Devil May Cry 2 wasn't that well received either. But that didn't stop Capcom from making a third one. Which I believe the general consensus is that it's the best DMC.
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50Blessings
02/06/18 1:02:22 AM
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KCJ5062 posted...
I want a new Dino Crisis. I know DC3 was a terrible game, but Devil May Cry 2 wasn't that well received either. But that didn't stop Capcom from making a third one. Which I believe the general consensus is that it's the best DMC.


I feel like Dino Crisis would work really well with the direction RE went with RE4 and 5 tbqh

But I don't trust Capcom not to fuck everything up anymore.
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pres_madagascar
02/06/18 1:04:55 AM
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Why? RE7 was a hit and critical darling, monster hunter world is the same.
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pres_madagascar
02/06/18 1:05:35 AM
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50Blessings posted...
KCJ5062 posted...
I want a new Dino Crisis. I know DC3 was a terrible game, but Devil May Cry 2 wasn't that well received either. But that didn't stop Capcom from making a third one. Which I believe the general consensus is that it's the best DMC.


I feel like Dino Crisis would work really well with the direction RE went with RE4 and 5 tbqh

But I don't trust Capcom not to fuck everything up anymore.

Only their fighting games and dead rising 4 are trash. RE7 and monster hunter world are good
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Esrac
02/06/18 5:27:50 AM
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Darmik posted...
Esrac posted...
Darmik posted...
It is nice to see that dumbing down the game significantly to try and get a more broad audience doesn't always work. Especially since in DR4's case the lead developers were almost telling the core fanbase to fuck off.


Yeah? What did they say?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIT0MBSac


They don't understand what made Frank West charming at all. They think he's some Ash Williams rip off. I don't think they even played the first game going by their comments. Whenever they talk about DR1 it's often completely wrong or they talk about how it wasn't fun.


Not sure what it is, but that beard guy seems like a douche.
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LJRENEGADE
02/06/18 7:33:23 AM
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I remember when they first announced DR4 and said it was gonna have Frank West returning to Willamette and I was like awesome. This sounds good, Frank West and Willamette are the best protag/location in the series imo.

Then they just made a dumbed down game with a new protagonist whose name is just Frank West and a new location that's just named Willamette. Neither were like or as good as the original.

How can you market the game so hard on "Frank is back!" and then screw it up in every way possible?

Also for me, Dead Rising was never about killing hordes of zombies with huge weapons, but that's the main aspect they've seem to have focused on since the 2nd game.
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02/06/18 7:42:49 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/06/18 8:21:06 AM
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Darmik posted...
Dark_SilverX posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
rip dead rising

Good. The whole series was pretty bad.


The first 2 are great. There's nothing else like them

DR3 was when the series became a meh open world zombie game. DR4 somehow got even worse.

I liked 3 better than 2 tbh

1 is the best tho
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DyingPancake
02/06/18 8:37:15 AM
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As someone who has enjoyed every DR (yes even 4), I just have no idea why they keep taking this series in weird directions and keep making these decisions that make no sense

This should be a series that should print money. The blueprint for an amazing game is there. Use it
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TrojanPony
02/06/18 8:39:32 AM
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Darmik posted...
It is nice to see that dumbing down the game significantly to try and get a more broad audience doesn't always work. Especially since in DR4's case the lead developers were almost telling the core fanbase to fuck off.

Alright I want a fucking answer to this parroted bullshit; how can someone tell if a game is "simple" enough for them without playing it? Dumbing down is a myth because of that massive gaping hole in logic. Know why they dumb it down? So their idiot developers can squeeze more game out of no budget.
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