Current Events > As a relative newcomer to the monster hunter series, my thoughts on world

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A) I adore the structure of rhe game. I can play for a little bit and still feel like I did a lot. Which is awesome with my busy schedule.

B) I actually prefer not to marathon the game even when I have time to, playing a few quests or hunts then going to another game just feels better for some reason.

C) it took me a stupid long time to find weapons I liked. Everyone recommended sword and shield for newbies but I honestly hate that weapon. After much experimentation I found that the dual blades and longsword are my best weapons, especially dual blades, the fast agile playstyle suits me best, plus the demon mode is awesome. Once I really dug into dual blades I hit my stride.

D) the learning curve is definitely no joke. I'm still figuring things out lol. Not a bad thing, I love this games complexities.

E) this games community is excellent. I often send SOS flares just to make fights harder and it's more fun playing with other people. People seem so eager to help kill monsters.

F) exploring the world is so much fun.

G) I still don't know exactly how best to outfit my palico. I've been just giving him whatever armor has most defense and switching between the poison bow and this big ass mace depending on what I'm doing.

All in all I'm having a blast and see myself playing this for a long time, especially due to that structure I mentioned really supporting playing just a bit and still getting shit done. It's the perfect game for people who have busy schedules.
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Welcome aboard
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Also, im definitely already in "fashion souls", err, fashion hunter, mode lol. So many different armor styles lol.
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Glad you're enjoying it. Fashion hunter is a curse. The need to get all the armor makes it take so much longer to actually progress, lol

And your palico should basically be geared the same way you would be. So if a monster is giving you trouble and you switch to armor/weapon with the appropriate element or ailment attached, then you should do the same for your palico. It doesn't always seem like it at first, but gearing your palico right helps them survive longer, which in turn gives you a lot more openings.

Dragonblade01 posted...

Glad you're enjoying it. Fashion hunter is a curse. The need to get all the armor makes it take so much longer to actually progress, lol

And your palico should basically be geared the same way you would be. So if a monster is giving you trouble and you switch to armor/weapon with the appropriate element or ailment attached, then you should do the same for your palico. It doesn't always seem like it at first, but gearing your palico right helps them survive longer, which in turn gives you a lot more openings.

That's good to know, thanks a lot man. And yeah, I've been still upgrading my jagra chest piece because I like how it looks lol.
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Also, the game mentions it occasionally, but really use those hunter notes, especially the monster field guide. As the research for a particular monster ranks up, it'll give you tons of information like breakable parts, element and ailment weaknesses, weapon type effectiveness for each part, drop rates, etc.

Dragonblade01 posted...

Also, the game mentions it occasionally, but really use those hunter notes, especially the monster field guide. As the research for a particular monster ranks up, it'll give you tons of information like breakable parts, element and ailment weaknesses, weapon type effectiveness for each part, drop rates, etc.

I've been picking up every single bit of monster data in the world i can find. The footprints and stuff.
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Plus my dual blades seem to break parts a lot :)
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Also, this may sound lame, but when I'm fighting a large monster, and another large monster shows up too, I damn near shit my pants lol.
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pres_madagascar posted...

C) it took me a stupid long time to find weapons I liked. Everyone recommended sword and shield for newbies but I honestly hate that weapon. After much experimentation I found that the dual blades and longsword are my best weapons, especially dual blades, the fast agile playstyle suits me best, plus the demon mode is awesome. Once I really dug into dual blades I hit my stride.

I never understood why people do that. My advice has always been to sit down and experiment until you find a weapon that clicks. Most people never touch the SnS the moment they look at the other weapons.
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Sad_Face posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

C) it took me a stupid long time to find weapons I liked. Everyone recommended sword and shield for newbies but I honestly hate that weapon. After much experimentation I found that the dual blades and longsword are my best weapons, especially dual blades, the fast agile playstyle suits me best, plus the demon mode is awesome. Once I really dug into dual blades I hit my stride.

I never understood why people do that. My advice has always been to sit down and experiment until you find a weapon that clicks. Most people never touch the SnS the moment they look at the other weapons.

I dunno, I looked up what weapons were newbie friendly. And honestly, the training room doesn't really do a good job teaching weapons. I had to take them all on expeditions and just play with them against actual enemies. I fucking love the dual blades. Quick strikes, dodging, etc.. The fast style works for me.
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The greatsword has always clicked for me. Love the weight of the weapon. And the bow feels awesome to use in World. And yeah, that's a better strategy than forcing yourself to stick with the sword and shield or light bowgun. It's so much more fun when using a weapon that works for you.

Dragonblade01 posted...

The greatsword has always clicked for me. Love the weight of the weapon. And the bow feels awesome to use in World. And yeah, that's a better strategy than forcing yourself to stick with the sword and shield or light bowgun. It's so much more fun when using a weapon that works for you.

My reaction time sucks as I get older lol, so the quick strike and dodge setup of dual blades works well for me. I need to try out greatsword tonight actually, dunno if the slow style will work for me, but I wanna find out.
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There's actually very little reaction when it comes to using the greatsword. It's too slow for that lol. The greatsword is awesome because of how good it feels when you predict what the monster will do and then bash its head in with a level 3 charge.

Dragonblade01 posted...

There's actually very little reaction when it comes to using the greatsword. It's too slow for that lol. The greatsword is awesome because of how good it feels when you predict what the monster will do and then bash its head in with a level 3 charge.

Oh man, that sounds awesome. I love that there's a weapon for every play style. I don't get why everyone says sword and shield is best for newbies, it feels so useless damage wise.
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My go to weapons at the moment are the great sword and the charge blade. Dunno why but I like the heavier stuff. Most tech weapons are fun as well.
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Played hundreds of hours of MH4U so I was right at home with Charge Blade. Plays exactly the same, but you keep your shield charge after SAED, and the sword can be charged as well. Greatsword and Bow got reworked and I like them as well. Might start picking up Dual Blades, Hammer, and Insect Glaive soon.
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pres_madagascar posted...

I dunno, I looked up what weapons were newbie friendly. And honestly, the training room doesn't really do a good job teaching weapons. I had to take them all on expeditions and just play with them against actual enemies. I f***ing love the dual blades. Quick strikes, dodging, etc.. The fast style works for me.

I don't believe in the idea of newbie friendly weapons. They used to say this about the Bow, how it's a much easier weapon to get into than the LBG or HBG. But this is a 1000+ hour game. If you spend a good half hour reading up on the ammo the bowguns use, that's 80% of the learning curve there. The rest is learning to use the weapon and it boils down to point and shoot it till it dies. The bowguns are radically different from the Bow and the Bow requires a lot more micromanagement between its paltry amount of coatings and stamina consumption management as the Bow is a heavy user of a stamina.

The training room, if it's like the beta's (I haven't touched it), is just to get a feel for how the weapon works and how to use the weapon. How to hunt with it, yeah, you have to go for practical experience. The only place you can get that is ON THE HUNT!
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What kind of animation is there for when you get hit? does the armor glow or flash and does the animation makes you look like you got hit?
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ehhwhatever posted...

What kind of animation is there for when you get hit? does the armor glow or flash and does the animation makes you look like you got hit?

You tend to get knocked a distance off your feet, and maybe roll upon impact on the ground front first.
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Sad_Face posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

I dunno, I looked up what weapons were newbie friendly. And honestly, the training room doesn't really do a good job teaching weapons. I had to take them all on expeditions and just play with them against actual enemies. I f***ing love the dual blades. Quick strikes, dodging, etc.. The fast style works for me.

I don't believe in the idea of newbie friendly weapons. They used to say this about the Bow, how it's a much easier weapon to get into than the LBG or HBG. But this is a 1000+ hour game. If you spend a good half hour reading up on the ammo the bowguns use, that's 80% of the learning curve there. The rest is learning to use the weapon and it boils down to point and shoot it till it dies. The bowguns are radically different from the Bow and the Bow requires a lot more micromanagement between its paltry amount of coatings and stamina consumption management as the Bow is a heavy user of a stamina.

The training room, if it's like the beta's (I haven't touched it), is just to get a feel for how the weapon works and how to use the weapon. How to hunt with it, yeah, you have to go for practical experience. The only place you can get that is ON THE HUNT!

Yeah, expedition seems to be the best way to try out weapons since there's no time limits or anything.
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The main reason people recommend the bow over the bowguns is the fact that you don't have to manage so much different ammunition or keep your reserves up. In terms of actually using the weapon, the bow is much more particular.

Dragonblade01 posted...

The main reason people recommend the bow over the bowguns is the fact that you don't have to manage so much different ammunition and make sure you keep reserves up. In terms of actually using the weapon, the bow is much more particular.

But range affecting damage made Mr never touch it.
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Also, how do you effectively mount monsters? Sometimes I'll be above them and jump off and not land on them.
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You mount monsters by doing attacks that do "mounting" damage. Every air attack does mounting damage, but even some attacks from the ground for certain weapons can do it as well (such as the bow's lunging arrow attack).

The more mounting damage you accumulate, the higher the chance that the next attack with mounting damage will cause you to mount the monster.

Dragonblade01 posted...

The main reason people recommend the bow over the bowguns is the fact that you don't have to manage so much different ammunition or keep your reserves up. In terms of actually using the weapon, the bow is much more particular.

That is true. You only need to keep in the 4 coatings your Bow has access to as opposed to the 10-15 ammo types your bowgun can use. When you first try the Bowgun, its status screen will overwhelm you with info. But determining what bullets you should use is the first and only difficult part of the bowguns.

pres_madagascar posted...

But range affecting damage made Mr never touch it.

Look at it this way, the critical distance you speak of is implemented to simulate real life. A shooting an arrow point blank won't be as powerful as an arrow that is several meters away because the arrow needs a bit of time to accelerate to its maximum speed. Conversely if you shoot a gun or arrow, they will slow down in speed due to wind resistance. And it helps that it prevents you from standing from across the field and sniping the monster from a distance. It's not a big issue to worry about, and World makes it 100x easier than the previous games by telling you when you're in critical distance.
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I tend to prefer melee stuff anyway lol.

Dragonblade01 posted...

You mount monsters by doing attacks that do "mounting" damage. Every air attack does mounting damage, but even some attacks from the ground for certain weapons can do it as well (such as the bow's lunging arrow attack).

The more mounting damage you accumulate, the higher the chance that the next attack with mounting damage will cause you to mount the monster.

Oh hmm. Didn't know this.
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Damn, great sword is sick as fuck. Sure you aren't anywhere near as agile as with dual blades, but especially with this 420 damage bone greats word, i wreck face. I did a great jagras in half the time as with dual blades, and it's fantastic for aoe on small monsters. Only thing is it seems to lose sharpness easily.
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I'm with you. Never played one, didn't know much about it and preordered it blind. Didn't play the beta. 63 hours into it at this point, i'm definitely a Hammer/Gunlance guy, loving the straight crushing damage in support of my two other friends who bring other weapons, buffs, and skills to the table.

The game is honestly thrilling, it's consuming my life. Some of the monster designs are outstanding, and the worlds and environments are amazing. At times, it has the challenge of a Dark Souls game, with the depth of an incredible RPG like Witcher 3.

I didn't know going into it how stupidly addicted I would become, but I really have and it's so fun. The little things like adding pets to your room and a sick aquarium makes it even more rewarding. Some aspects I haven't even tinkered with yet, but learning is half the fun. I see myself putting hundreds of hours into this, I hope they support it well with DLC and draw out the appeal.
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I just got my copy yesterday so havent played yet, but the hunting horn was my favourite from the beta. I didn't spend much time with the bowguns, but should probably try them out some more.
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Hmm, so I definitely still prefer my dual blades. Great sword is cool but requires a lot better timing.
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I'm a heavy bow gun user to the bitter end.

Fucking love the HBG
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Hmm
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Y'all
For real.

Insect glaive is fucking amazing. Officially new favorite weapon. Agility and speed of dual blades, shit loads of ultity, good damage, easy mounting.

Can also be used to heal groups if you forgoe some damage.

Yes.

Yes.
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Seriously, imsext glaive is cool as fuck
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Insect Glaive often gets overlooked by new players because of kinsect and essence management, but it's a very fun and flashy weapon.

In the other MH games I ran dual swords now I'm running swaxe. Awesome weapon. About 40 hours in and I'm barely scratching the surface of HR. It's not the most difficult MH game but I think the qol fixes they've implemented easily makes it one of the best.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Insect Glaive often gets overlooked by new players because of kinsect and essence management, but it's a very fun and flashy weapon.

The thing is, I'm a newcomer, and I find it far less complicated to learn than the charge blade, which I still have trouble with.

A basic tutorial online and fucking around with it in expedition has already given me a solid grasp of how to use it.

It's actually an extremely forgiving weapon for new people.

1) the speed and agility of dual blades lends to being able to dodge and move around easier

2) longer reach like other 2h weapons also lends to security of avoiding attacks

3) vault is yet another way to avoid enemy attacks by being airborne, also makes it easy to mount monsters.

4) has DoT damage which helps.

It takes more time to learn than the basic weapon types, but isn't anywhere near as complicated as some of the other technical weapons, and is super forgiving.

It really let's you control the battlefield better.

It's also easier to manage elemental damage on due to being able to change elements on kinsects.

I'm currently rocking the poison staff with the poison bug. Oh yeah baby.
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pres_madagascar posted...

B) I actually prefer not to marathon the game even when I have time to, playing a few quests or hunts then going to another game just feels better for some reason.

I'm with you. I've been taking my time, grinding for gear I like, doing sidequests and unlocking new tools, gadgets, and features. Honestly, this game does a good job of rewarding you for exploring and taking your time, so I feel like alot of us are in that boat.

pres_madagascar posted...

C) it took me a stupid long time to find weapons I liked. Everyone recommended sword and shield for newbies but I honestly hate that weapon. After much experimentation I found that the dual blades and longsword are my best weapons, especially dual blades, the fast agile playstyle suits me best, plus the demon mode is awesome. Once I really dug into dual blades I hit my stride.

Yeah, people suggest sword and shield because it's the most accessible and the easiest to pick up, but honestly, I don't see a lot of people using them in the higher ranks. I think it's suggested more as a gateway weapon to ease you into the series. The way the weapons work reminds me of a fighting game; each weapon is so massively different that it might as well be a completely new game. Personally, I'm a Heavy Bowgun guy, but I dabble in Hammers, Light Bowguns, and Bows.

pres_madagascar posted...

D) the learning curve is definitely no joke. I'm still figuring things out lol. Not a bad thing, I love this games complexities.

The best part is when it all starts to 'click' and suddenly you are studying monsters and watching their tracks and you really feel like a seasoned hunter tracking some sinister wild beast.

pres_madagascar posted...

E) this games community is excellent. I often send SOS flares just to make fights harder and it's more fun playing with other people. People seem so eager to help kill monsters.

Yeah, it's astonishingly, really. I've literally had a single quest fail because someone was being stupid (a double blader rushed the monster we were supposed to capture), but it wasn't really a big thing. Other than that, there have been a couple guys that trolled a bit, but nothing game breaking.

pres_madagascar posted...

G) I still don't know exactly how best to outfit my palico. I've been just giving him whatever armor has most defense and switching between the poison bow and this big ass mace depending on what I'm doing.

Honestly, it's most decoration. I just match my set. You can customize them to what you are fighting, but the game is built for multiplayer and, as soon as a third person joins, your Palico leaves. So just dress them how you want and use your SOS flare frequently.

Dash_Harber posted...

Yeah, it's astonishingly, really. I've literally had a single quest fail because someone was being stupid (a double blader rushed the monster we were supposed to capture), but it wasn't really a big thing. Other than that, there have been a couple guys that trolled a bit, but nothing game breaking.

Just last night a couple friends and I who are in high rank were helping a buddy who just started. We failed a capture mission because we forgot to take off our high rank gear and obliterated it before it could even run away lol

Dragonblade01 posted...

The main reason people recommend the bow over the bowguns is the fact that you don't have to manage so much different ammunition or keep your reserves up. In terms of actually using the weapon, the bow is much more particular.

Hmm if you have all 3 levels of any type you are doing it wrong. Only highest level, status effects, and slicing ammo should be loaded.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Yeah, it's astonishingly, really. I've literally had a single quest fail because someone was being stupid (a double blader rushed the monster we were supposed to capture), but it wasn't really a big thing. Other than that, there have been a couple guys that trolled a bit, but nothing game breaking.

Just last night a couple friends and I who are in high rank were helping a buddy who just started. We failed a capture mission because we forgot to take off our high rank gear and obliterated it before it could even run away lol

Haha, I did the same thing when I was testing my new Anja set and went to capture a Jagras. Thing went down in like six minutes and I didn't even realize it was dying because I was raining explosive death on it for like am inute straight.

Insect glaive has so much versatility.
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So, imo, my preference of weapons, is insect glaive, dual blades, and greatsword, in that order.
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Seeing the IG in MH4's reveal trailer was what got me into the series actually. It's simple and cool and slick. But it does get frustrating being in the air and getting stuck mounting while your juices wear out.
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Sad_Face posted...

Seeing the IG in MH4's reveal trailer was what got me into the series actually. It's simple and cool and slick. But it does get frustrating being in the air and getting stuck mounting while your juices wear out.

To be fair, you can choose not to do it.
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Insect glaive has buffs, debuffs, DoTs, reach, agility, versatility. So food.
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I'm having way too much fun with the bow. I'm just going for high raw damage, no status or element. But knocking over a monster, stunning with arc shot, placing a pitfall trap, stunning again, all while unleashing hell on their face from a safe distance? Fuck yes lol

Then there's Dragon Piercer, and the ability to mount with the lunging melee... bow is way too good.
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Xenozoa425 posted...

I'm having way too much fun with the bow. I'm just going for high raw damage, no status or element. But knocking over a monster, stunning with arc shot, placing a pitfall trap, stunning again, all while unleashing hell on their face from a safe distance? Fuck yes lol

Then there's Dragon Piercer, and the ability to mount with the lunging melee... bow is way too good.

I'm over here not wanting to manage ammo on a bow but yet have no issue managing insects lol
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The only 2 coatings I really use though are Close Range and Power. Close Range is unlimited use and comes with every Bow, and Power you can buy really cheap at the supply shop in the main hub.
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