Current Events > Trump administration wants to dictate what kind of food poor people eat

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There's so much 80's welfare queen myths being spouted in this topic. Cashiers don't follow people to their cars after ringing them up. It's nonsense and everyone claims they see it all the time when they absolutely don't.

cjsdowg posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

This. I'm confused by the strong reactions. I'm not on a political side but I think this seems like a decent idea. I don't see how this is more "big government" if they were already giving out more money in the first place. But for many people this was doomed from the get go for being done under Trump's admin

You don't see how this is a bigger government. The government now how to house and ship out food. You have to go thru more levels if have needs that have to be checked. How in the hell is not that bigger government to you? And if you agree with that spiteful comment and think the only issue people have with this is trump , you are clearly solidly red.

Also you honestly think Dems would support going back to government cheese if it was done under anyone else besides trump. That is bull shit and you fucking know it.

Call me what you want. If the proposal is accurate they would be spending less money. This is just benefits in a different form. No one is forced to take government handouts.

If Michele Obama proposed this, they would market it as a healthy eating package and people would love it.
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good to know trump is as stupid as he is fat. If you want to dictate what the poor eat at least give them chicken/pork and mixed vegetables, along with beans and some apples or someshit.

Yeah, I once checked out a woman who bought literally $200 worth of Mountain Dew with food stamps. She was so far she was riding in an electric motorized shopping cart and her daughter (who looked maybe 10 and was also obese just not morbidly so) was pushing a cart overflowing with Mountain Dew.

Not saying Trump's plan is right but there needs to be SOME overhaul of the SNAP program. I'm all for allowing people dietary choice but it needs to be used expressly for healthy choices, not literal junk. The model WIC uses is a good example of nutrition supplement done right
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Call me what you want. If the proposal is accurate they would be spending less money. This is just benefits in a different form. No one is forced to take government handouts.

If Michele Obama proposed this, they would market it as a healthy eating package and people would love it.

Unlike you reds people on the left down fall in line just cus. And one more how is this not bigger government in your world.
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fire_bolt posted...

Yeah, I once checked out a woman who bought literally $200 worth of Mountain Dew with food stamps. She was so far she was riding in an electric motorized shopping cart and her daughter (who looked maybe 10 and was also obese just not morbidly so) was pushing a cart overflowing with Mountain Dew.

Not saying Trump's plan is right but there needs to be SOME overhaul of the SNAP program. I'm all for allowing people dietary choice but it needs to be used expressly for healthy choices, not literal junk. The model WIC uses is a good example of nutrition supplement done right

Liberals wouldn't tolerate any such restrictions. Enacting an extra, punitive tax that affects people who buy soda or junk food with their own money? Completely acceptable. Placing restrictions on what people can buy with government benefits? Completely unacceptable.
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If this was done under Michelle Obama, they would market the hell out of it as a positive thing. Unlike Trump who likes being a troll. People would eat it up, literally.
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Seems everyone on this board has done a flip flop.

Remember my topic about the Philadelphia soda tax about a year ago? Now you're all against it? Just goes to show you flip flop in a heart beat when Trump takes the same side.

Trump: "The sky is blue"
Proud Liberal: "NOOO That's where you're wrong. It's always been red LMFAO Trump!"
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

If this was done under Michelle Obama, they would market the hell out of it as a positive thing. Unlike Trump who likes being a troll. People would eat it up, literally.

No they wouldn't. And if Obama did something close to you on the right would flip the fuck out.
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I like it. Disgusting non-contributing members of society are now going to have to work to be able to get what they want.

hehehehehehehe take that liberals

you're LOOOOOSING hahahahahaha :DDDDDDDD
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cjsdowg posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

If this was done under Michelle Obama, they would market the hell out of it as a positive thing. Unlike Trump who likes being a troll. People would eat it up, literally.

No they wouldn't.

Yes, yes they would.
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cjsdowg posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

If this was done under Michelle Obama, they would market the hell out of it as a positive thing. Unlike Trump who likes being a troll. People would eat it up, literally.

No they wouldn't. And if Obama did something close to you on the right would flip the fuck out.

No. I never agreed with the mindset of "I want the government to take care of me, but they just can't tell me what to do." Complaining about free food is looking the gift horse in the mouth.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Yes, yes they would.

Unlike the GOP dems are not heartless.
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Uh by the way; the "Republicans like big government" argument is moot as hell when referring to regulations on SNAP benefits... This is not an increase in spending...

Unreliableness posted...

I like it. Disgusting non-contributing members of society are now going to have to work to be able to get what they want.

hehehehehehehe take that liberals

you're LOOOOOSING hahahahahaha :DDDDDDDD
<333

Many people on SNAP.. WORK
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Caution999 posted...

Seems everyone on this board has done a flip flop.

Remember my topic about the Philadelphia soda tax about a year ago? Now you're all against it? Just goes to show you flip flop in a heart beat when Trump takes the same side.

Trump: "The sky is blue"
Proud Liberal: "NOOO That's where you're wrong. It's always been red LMFAO Trump!"

the GOP has literally taken out their own bills when Dems suggest them.
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cjsdowg posted...

Unreliableness posted...

I like it. Disgusting non-contributing members of society are now going to have to work to be able to get what they want.

hehehehehehehe take that liberals

you're LOOOOOSING hahahahahaha :DDDDDDDD
<333

Many people on SNAP.. WORK

weird cos that makes you ineligible; so if they are it's off the books and they're breaking the law.

Guess you lost that one buddy :] hehe

Unreliableness posted...

weird cos that makes you ineligible; so if they are it's off the books and they're breaking the law.

Guess you lost that one buddy :] hehe

You have never heard of the working poor ?
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Had this topic really gone this far without anyone pointing out that the topic title is a lie
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cjsdowg posted...

Unreliableness posted...

weird cos that makes you ineligible; so if they are it's off the books and they're breaking the law.

Guess you lost that one buddy :] hehe

You have never heard of the working poor ?

What a stupid inquiry. You should prob leave. :/ sorry.

ohhh I'd be so embarrassed

all welfare receivers should live on plain pasta and beans because I once knew a poor kid who had a mobile phone

thats dumb

nothing but an emotional response, liberal!

Did I miss anything from the 200 posts I skipped in this topic?
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Good.

I've seen so many people load their carts up with garbage food and whip out an EBT or stamps.

This is an excellent decision on the Trump administration.

Give people some essentials rather than garbage food.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Had this topic really gone this far without anyone pointing out that the topic title is a lie

no it was pointed out pretty early on.
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People will still sell stamps for drugs.

cerealbox760 posted...

The package was described in the budget as consisting of "shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit and vegetables." The boxes would not include fresh fruits or vegetables.




Great. None of that is healthy besides the veggies. You might aswell let people buy mcdonalds.

What's your definition of healthy? Iceberg lettuce? Fuck outta here.
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thronedfire2 posted...

Grocery stores mark s*** up by like 200-300%

i just want to pick this post out and highlight it as the dumbest comment in the entire thread

and that is quite an achievement
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Unreliableness posted...

weird cos that makes you ineligible

runner up: second dumbest post in this thread. SNAP benefits are dependent on monthly income which scales up by household size.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/eligibility#What are the SNAP income limits?

be less smug.
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As long as it'd make fat people eat healthy it'd be welcomed. Now to get them out of their nice houses and townhomes and put people who actually work in them.
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It's rather..."interesting" that all these claims of consistent abuse come from the same category of posters
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A_Good_Boy posted...

I remember when red hats got pissed at an Obama for dictating what their kids can eat at school. Now they'll cheer when Trump dictates what that kid's family can eat at home.

Yep
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Garbage fucking proposal.

It's funny watching the cultists bitch about poor people buying Mountain Dew or steaks, yet the ignore the millions of dollars in tax revenue lost by people like Trump not paying their taxes.

Hey, cling to whatever superiority you have over the poor, red hats.
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I'm a little confused as to how they can make it more cost effective to pack and distribute these food packages than it is to simply place money on a card. There's a lot of infrastructure that comes with that, as well as labor.
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Ya'll mad
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eston posted...

I'm a little confused as to how they can make it more cost effective to pack and distribute these food packages than it is to simply place money on a card. There's a lot of infrastructure that comes with that, as well as labor.

they can't

much like drug testing for welfare benefits, the net cost is much higher than any savings; the motivation is making a subset of the population feel like they're getting to punish those lucky duckies. compulsory work for the unemployed is a similar concept.


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HBKick18 posted...

Small government

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Capn Circus posted...

This will help prevent abuse. I've seen it many times where people use foodstamps to buy $30 prime steak packages and other delicacies that are unnecessary for survival.

Do you watch how people pay for their stuff?
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If people use food stamps to buy $30 steaks, then there is no chance in hell the benefits would last the month.
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The party of less government.
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Mike_Stanton posted...

The party of less government.

If they're spending less money it IS less goverment
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Mike_Stanton posted...

The party of less government.

If they're spending less money it IS less goverment

this will cost more
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Darkman124 posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Mike_Stanton posted...

The party of less government.

If they're spending less money it IS less goverment

this will cost more

Potentially. We can't know for sure but their proposal says it will cut costs significantly. Until some expert comes along and says they're wrong, that's all we really have to go by. I don't think any message board user is qualified to make these claims.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Darkman124 posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Mike_Stanton posted...

The party of less government.

If they're spending less money it IS less goverment

this will cost more

Potentially. We can't know for sure but their proposal says it will cut costs significantly. Until some expert comes along and says they're wrong, that's all we really have to go by. I don't think any message board user is qualified to make these claims.

Which expert has agreed with Trump's proposal?
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Until some expert comes along and says they're wrong

https://tinyurl.com/yasq3983

The proposal is also likely to enrage food retailers particularly Walmart, Target and Aldi that stand to lose billions if food stamp benefits are cut, analysts say. On Monday, the Food Marketing Institute, a trade association for grocery stores, condemned the Harvest Box proposal as expensive, inefficient and unlikely to generate any long-term government savings.

Ironically, that sort of criticism has also dogged Blue Apron, which saw its customer base contract in 2017. A recent report by the market research firm Datassential found that four in 10 lapsed meal-kit subscribers dropped their service because they were too costly.

As much as a third of the price per box goes toward shipping and logistics, which remain daunting, industry analysts told The Washington Post last June. Food policy experts expressed skepticism that the government could do better.

In a statement, Jim Weill, president of the Food Research and Action Center, described the proposal as a a Rube-Goldberg designed system of commodity distribution via food boxes.

"[It] will be administratively costly, inefficient, stigmatizing, and prone to failure, Weill added. "[And it] will return the country to Depression-era anti-hunger approaches.

in short: the trump admin is almost never honest, this exists (in the form of blue apron, which mick mulvaney dishonestly tried to compare their plan to) and the associated shipping costs there are massive.
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Will it be shitty health food like Michelle Obama gave to school lunches? >_>
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Darkman124 posted...

this will cost more

Sure it will.
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"some people abuse a system so let's Fuck with everyone who uses that system"

What if you just increased taxes somewhat
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Doe posted...

"some people abuse a system so let's Fuck with everyone who uses that system"

One bad apple ruins the bunch.
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only if you trim the tree with a flamethrower
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Doe posted...

so let's f*** with everyone

How is getting free food that will feed more people than wasting money on a bag of Doritos and cardboard pizza "fucking people with everyone"?
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