Poll of the Day > Cop pulls gun on convenience store customer over pack of Mentos they'd paid for

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SuperSaiyanSonic
05/08/18 12:34:39 AM
#52:


It honestly looks like he was gonna rob the place with that other guy before the cop came in.
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HelIWithoutSin
05/08/18 12:41:02 AM
#53:


I was hoping that guy would've popped a Mentos into his mouth and cracked a big grin as a zany plan to outsmart the cop entered his head.
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Zeus
05/08/18 1:12:41 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
As much as I hate to admit it, it's kinda true. That being said, my mom said they are firing people for more things now, like really racist remarks...


Yeah, they've fired cops over remarks and social media posts -- many of which are stories Ducky posted -- so the idea that they never get fired is bullshit.

Smallville posted...
Rasmoh posted...
While the cop was very clearly in the wrong by the sound of it, I hate that the automatic course of action is to sue.

so? maybe most people in this situation would sue, and i really don't blame this guy for suing


I seriously doubt most people would sue. If it happened to me, I know I'd just want to put the thing behind me.

Rasmoh posted...
Smallville posted...
If it is fair that the guy get's compensated then it's fair. I feel sorry for taxpayers but maybe this will cause change and better hiring.


How do you determine a fair amount of innocent taxpayer money to compensate someone due to hurt feelings?

And how is this supposed to result in "better hiring"? What if this is the first time this officer has ever done anything like this? Do you genuinely think you can weed out every officer that might make a bad decision ever?


Pretty much this.
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Rasmoh
05/08/18 2:21:39 AM
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GunslingerGunsl posted...
Guy should get compensated.


For what? What is the monetary value associated with having your feelings hurt for 10 seconds?
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Nightengale
05/08/18 2:43:46 AM
#56:


Having a gun pulled on you is not having your feelings hurt lmao what planet are you on
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jramirez23
05/08/18 3:17:56 AM
#57:


It sort of surprises me that so many users here think the cop was in the wrong. I mean I think the cop was wrong to do that too but I would expect everyone to be sort of dismissive to the poor guy.
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RCtheWSBC
05/08/18 3:40:25 AM
#58:


Money from lawsuits resulting from police misconduct should be taken directly from the department's pension funds instead of from the municipal government's budget.

Anyone who thinks is normal is ridiculous. This fucker failed to ascertain an imminent deadly threat and brandished his weapon to intimidate a citizen. What an absolute terrible standard to accept from individuals serving in law enforcement.
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Soraiku
05/08/18 3:46:36 AM
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I just watched the vid. The guy did look nervous, and it did look like he'd swiped something while the guy wasn't looking. He didn't - it was just the mentos, but it looked suspicious as fuck. This strikes me as an understandable mistake tbh.

Pulling the gun was perhaps unwarranted though either way.

Edit: actually, he pulled the gun when the other guy reached into his pocket, having not said anything yet. It did look like the guy might have been pulling a gun, and given how nervous he was acting, the officer pulling his own gun in response made sense. This may have actually been a reasonable precaution. As such I think the only thing he did wrong was ordering the guy to put something back without first asking if he'd paid for it to begin with.
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ClarkDuke
05/08/18 4:42:48 AM
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Zeus posted...
If it happened to me, I know I'd just want to put the thing behind me.

But you're an old white man, ok?
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magemaximus
05/08/18 5:10:24 AM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Money from lawsuits resulting from police misconduct should be taken directly from the department's pension funds instead of from the municipal government's budget.

Anyone who thinks is normal is ridiculous. This fucker failed to ascertain an imminent deadly threat and brandished his weapon to intimidate a citizen. What an absolute terrible standard to accept from individuals serving in law enforcement.

this. gotta hit em where it hurts. bet more police officers will stop acting a fool.
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Mead
05/08/18 5:16:39 AM
#62:


Bad cop, no donut
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RCtheWSBC
05/08/18 9:35:38 AM
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Flame_Hazard
05/08/18 9:41:54 AM
#64:


RCtheWSBC posted...
Relevant.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/atlanta-cop-gets-years-for-beating-walmart-customer-over-stolen-tomato/jSnD2Crf5H94c9WjeU5p9I/

Finally these cops are getting what they deserve when abusing their power.

I'm sure the fact that this cop is black has nothing to do with him actually getting convicted for merely beating, rather than murdering an innocent person.
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AirJordan2345
05/08/18 9:53:29 AM
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Flame_Hazard posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Relevant.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/atlanta-cop-gets-years-for-beating-walmart-customer-over-stolen-tomato/jSnD2Crf5H94c9WjeU5p9I/

Finally these cops are getting what they deserve when abusing their power.

I'm sure the fact that this cop is black has nothing to do with him actually getting convicted for merely beating, rather than murdering an innocent person.

geez is that story real? never heard it, it's almost too crazy to even believe though. You think if the cop was white though that he wouldn't have gotten anywhere near 5?
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AirJordan2345
05/08/18 10:00:18 AM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Relevant.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/atlanta-cop-gets-years-for-beating-walmart-customer-over-stolen-tomato/jSnD2Crf5H94c9WjeU5p9I/

Did this tomato cop even ask the shopper to stop so he could check he paid for it before hitting him?
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Smallville
05/08/18 1:02:01 PM
#67:


bump
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Revelation34
05/08/18 1:30:21 PM
#68:


Kyuubi4269 posted...

When you give somebody power at their own discretion, why wouldn't they use it all the time? It's not necessary to point a gun in virtually all circumstances, but it's certainly an efficient way to force compliance.


Yeah kidnappings and bank robberies are justified.

Rasmoh posted...

It's a government body, not a private company, which means that funds that would typically be allocated elsewhere are now going to be used to pay off this suit. That means less resources for the community in some way, in addition to continuing the litigation-happy mindset that our society has adopted.


Get better cops then.
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AirJordan2345
05/08/18 1:47:26 PM
#69:


i completely agree with you, get better cops then
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DirtBasedSoap
05/08/18 2:14:06 PM
#70:


surprise, your average cop is a fucking moron.
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AirJordan2345
05/08/18 2:28:00 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
surprise, your average cop is a fucking moron.

you believe this to be a fact?
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Zeus
05/08/18 2:36:23 PM
#72:


Nightengale posted...
Having a gun pulled on you is not having your feelings hurt lmao what planet are you on


Oh? So what was hurt besides his feelings? Did he suffer a gunshot wound? Was he struck with the weapon? What's that? No? So what besides his feelings wee hurt?

RCtheWSBC posted...
Money from lawsuits resulting from police misconduct should be taken directly from the department's pension funds instead of from the municipal government's budget.


That's an incredibly stupid and reckless plan, considering how quickly the pension could be wiped out.

Revelation34 posted...
Rasmoh posted...

It's a government body, not a private company, which means that funds that would typically be allocated elsewhere are now going to be used to pay off this suit. That means less resources for the community in some way, in addition to continuing the litigation-happy mindset that our society has adopted.


Get better cops then.


Or you could stop suing over nothing, which seems the better plan. Any time a cop does something wrong even slightly wrong shouldn't mean winning a lotto.
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LinkPizza
05/08/18 2:57:46 PM
#73:


Zeus posted...
Oh? So what was hurt besides his feelings? Did he suffer a gunshot wound? Was he struck with the weapon? What's that? No? So what besides his feelings wee hurt?

Could be traumatic for some people...
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Nightengale
05/08/18 3:13:04 PM
#74:


Zeus posted...
Oh? So what was hurt besides his feelings? Did he suffer a gunshot wound? Was he struck with the weapon? What's that? No? So what besides his feelings wee hurt?

Right, I forgot this is america where deadly weapons being waved around is totally normalized

Your entire country is fucked up and I don't have a problem saying that
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Truth_Decay
05/08/18 3:50:10 PM
#75:


Zeus posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Money from lawsuits resulting from police misconduct should be taken directly from the department's pension funds instead of from the municipal government's budget.


That's an incredibly stupid and reckless plan, considering how quickly the pension could be wiped out.


1. This shows how pervasive abuse of power is among America's police force.

2. That's the point, genius. Have a punishment that acts as a deterrent to egregious offenses. They still have to go through trials and appeals before being hit with any punishment. It's not as if every claim will result in a payout. If a cop follows protocol, exercises reasonable restraint, they'll be fine. Fucking with someone's money is a surefire way to keep them in line.

Revelation34 posted...
Rasmoh posted...

It's a government body, not a private company, which means that funds that would typically be allocated elsewhere are now going to be used to pay off this suit. That means less resources for the community in some way, in addition to continuing the litigation-happy mindset that our society has adopted.


Get better cops then.


Or you could stop suing over nothing, which seems the better plan. Any time a cop does something wrong even slightly wrong shouldn't mean winning a lotto.

Having a gun drawn on you is "nothing"?
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DirtBasedSoap
05/08/18 3:52:24 PM
#76:


@AirJordan2345 posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
surprise, your average cop is a fucking moron.

you believe this to be a fact?

yes
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AirJordan2345
05/08/18 3:54:01 PM
#77:


the idea of getting that money from the cops' pensions funds seems like a great idea and all. But how often does something that makes good sense and seems very fair not get implemented in the u.s.?
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LinkPizza
05/08/18 4:12:38 PM
#78:


DirtBasedSoap posted...
@AirJordan2345 posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
surprise, your average cop is a fucking moron.

you believe this to be a fact?

yes

I would say the average cop, tbh...
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Revelation34
05/08/18 4:17:47 PM
#79:


Zeus posted...
Or you could stop suing over nothing,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M" data-time="


AirJordan2345 posted...
the idea of getting that money from the cops' pensions funds seems like a great idea and all. But how often does something that makes good sense and seems very fair not get implemented in the u.s.?


100%
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Zeus
05/09/18 8:22:40 PM
#80:


LinkPizza posted...
Zeus posted...
Oh? So what was hurt besides his feelings? Did he suffer a gunshot wound? Was he struck with the weapon? What's that? No? So what besides his feelings wee hurt?

Could be traumatic for some people...


...which is still feelings and, if anything, they could specifically pay for the counseling-- you know, that counseling he's not going to get because this is a money play. And, by the way, he ACKNOWLEDGED that it was about his feelings.

"The hardest thing for me was, believe it or not, it wasn't really the gun," said Arreola, pausing as he seems almost overcome by emotion. "It was his arrogance, his way of talking to me. [] He treated me like a piece of trash."

Nightengale posted...
Zeus posted...
Oh? So what was hurt besides his feelings? Did he suffer a gunshot wound? Was he struck with the weapon? What's that? No? So what besides his feelings wee hurt?

Right, I forgot this is america where deadly weapons being waved around is totally normalized

Your entire country is fucked up and I don't have a problem saying that


While you can shout from the top of your soapbox, he wasn't complaining about the gun, he was complaining about the treatment.

"The hardest thing for me was, believe it or not, it wasn't really the gun," said Arreola, pausing as he seems almost overcome by emotion. "It was his arrogance, his way of talking to me. [] He treated me like a piece of trash."

So yeah, 100% feelings.

Truth_Decay posted...
Having a gun drawn on you is "nothing"?


"The hardest thing for me was, believe it or not, it wasn't really the gun," said Arreola, pausing as he seems almost overcome by emotion. "It was his arrogance, his way of talking to me. [] He treated me like a piece of trash."

All signs point to yes.

AirJordan2345 posted...
the idea of getting that money from the cops' pensions funds seems like a great idea and all. But how often does something that makes good sense and seems very fair not get implemented in the u.s.?


No, it's a fucking terrible idea. And the person who suggested it pretty openly hates cops which is they'd recommend doing something disastrous to all cops.
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Smallville
05/09/18 11:08:58 PM
#81:


who was the person that recommended it and hates cops? Does anybody seriously think something like that could happen?
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Rasmoh
05/10/18 3:31:42 AM
#82:


Nightengale posted...
Having a gun pulled on you is not having your feelings hurt lmao what planet are you on


Nothing came of it though. It literally is just hurt feelings. Perhaps you could enlighten me on what the actual outcome was if I'm wrong though.

RCtheWSBC posted...
Money from lawsuits resulting from police misconduct should be taken directly from the department's pension funds instead of from the municipal government's budget.


Only if we start taking money from the families of criminals for the crimes they commit, if we're going to go with holding innocent people accountable for the misactions of others.

Truth_Decay posted...
Having a gun drawn on you is "nothing"?


Considering the aftermath of the event is literally nothing, yes.

AirJordan2345 posted...
But how often does something that makes good sense and seems very fair not get implemented in the u.s.?


How is it sensible or fair to take money from the majority of police officers who don't do bad things?

Truth_Decay posted...
Have a punishment that acts as a deterrent to egregious offenses.


I thought having harsh punishment for egregious offenses didn't work, which is why people decry prisons and the death penalty.
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ClarkDuke
05/10/18 4:40:00 AM
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Revelation34
05/10/18 2:18:28 PM
#84:


Rasmoh posted...
holding innocent people accountable


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M" data-time="

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Truth_Decay
05/11/18 8:50:09 AM
#85:


ClarkDuke posted...
It's official, Zeus has stopped trying, ok?

He's beyond ignorant.
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Revelation34
05/11/18 2:59:32 PM
#86:


Truth_Decay posted...

He's beyond ignorant.


What's the word for that?
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FatalAccident
05/11/18 3:02:16 PM
#87:


bet the customer was black lol
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FatalAccident
05/11/18 3:02:46 PM
#88:


also rofl the guys name is areola haha
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Far-Queue
05/11/18 3:29:14 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
also rofl the guys name is areola haha

Had noticed that lol
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