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iHuman 07/02/18 8:49:49 PM #52: |
Kruppe posted...
That guy was also defending Dinesh D'Souza's tweet about burning the Jews He didn't tweet that, he retweeted it. If you're position is so correct why do you have to lie about it? --- Intelligence is just a 12 letter word, what are you? -Me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kruppe 07/02/18 8:50:41 PM #53: |
iHuman posted...
Kruppe posted...That guy was also defending Dinesh D'Souza's tweet about burning the Jews ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 07/02/18 8:51:50 PM #54: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Oookay. As soon as someone suggested unionizing you immediately went off about "union tyrants." That sounds a lot more like a general statement about unions than a comment about the specific situation of that lady. I'm glad the upper management decided to overturn the manager's lack of judgement. Good on them. If you think large unions just take advantage of workers, that's fine. I've heard that sort of argument a million times from people who tow the employer line and I've yet to meet someone using that kind of language being genuinely interested in discussing unions instead of just name-calling. People have fought for decades and decades for the right to unionize. And sometimes those fights were fucking vicious and violent. In the end, it all comes down to power relationships. A guy stocking the shelves in a grocery, for example, has zero negotiating power. But a grocery needs people stocking the shelves. And so the guys stocking the shelves decide to band together and negotiate together to be able to get better conditions. That's the core of unions. And the initial response from employers and governments was extreme. It took a long time for unions to be able to even do anything. And in the end, by negotiating together, they have the power to get much better work conditions than they would get by themselves. But in the US, it's obviously different. The laws in the US are so unfavorable to unions that they very much lack the leverage to negotiate good CBAs for their members. Not only are such as mall percentage of US workers unionized, but also the use of scabs is pretty much unregulated. In other countries, lock outs and strikes are almost equivalent powers, but when it's so easy to use scabs then the unions lose a huge amount of leverage. Maybe that's why so many Americans think badly of unions. They operate in such a hostile legal environment, and they get demonized nonstop. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 07/02/18 8:53:04 PM #55: |
the irony of proudclad of all fucking people accusing others of shitposting
this board, man --- https://imgur.com/5UL2v5u "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 8:55:49 PM #56: |
frozenshock posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted... I think a lot of Americans think badly of unions because they see what massive and powerful unions do. Again,I point to the Chicago Teachers Union as an example. And if you have examples of good large and powerful unions and what they can do for the average worker, I'd like to see them. I'm not referring to what unions did long ago, either. I know all that. I'm referring to recent years. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/02/18 8:56:03 PM #57: |
Delirious_Beard posted...
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Delirious_Beard 07/02/18 8:59:29 PM #58: |
really wish the topic wouldn't bump for invisible posts
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Zeeak4444 07/02/18 9:20:19 PM #60: |
ExtremeLuchador posted...
Stuff like this happens everywhere. US Bank made my friend come back from her honeymoon or be fired. She and her husband had to rent a car and drive 14 hours back. Damn that's suck man. Not as bad as that but I once requested off a month ahead of time and was approved. Told the corporation I was going out of town for it and all that but would be available by phone if needed. Someone else didn't show up or called off (I can't recall). Long story short I was called and told I'd be fired if I didn't come back and work. Cue 3 hour drive back to work the shift. The best part is the person I covered for wasn't fired. I quit as soon as I found another offer. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myztikrice 07/02/18 9:21:03 PM #61: |
dave_is_slick posted...
GATTJT posted...DK9292 posted...Veggeta X posted... Are you guys insane? She's commenting on the company only firing the manager because of the publicity the story got and similar managers elsewhere are doing the same without consequence --- "Why are you always smiling?" "'Cause it's all so f***in' hysterical." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EternalDivide 07/02/18 9:22:58 PM #62: |
Good. Hope the hag has trouble finding work for a while.
You can bet your last cent that she was one of those types of managers that thinks they're lord almighty and that the employees are there to serve her first and not the customers. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 07/02/18 9:26:36 PM #63: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
If you want "specific" examples you'd have to compare item by item the working conditions and benefits of unionized workers with a CBA and someone who's not unionized in a comparable job. You really wanna go through that trouble? Its not like you'll change your mind anyway. Well one union group im familiar with is the TUAC here because i interned for them when i was in college many years ago. Almost all grocery workers in quebec are members of a chapter union of the TUAC. They're pretty big. And they made it pretty hard to get fired unless you screwed up. I dont know what it is now but back in 2007 there was a 1500$ per year dental plan and 2500$ of orthodontics. They negotiated a "night premium" so that the people who work nights (stocking shelves) get paid extra. Theres a good pension plan too. And more sick days. And a nice medication plan. And you want me to pull up the fucking pamplet? Point is, ive seen enough to know that the employees were better off with them than without even if theres nothing news shattering. Anyway, we're just not gonna agree. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 07/02/18 9:26:50 PM #64: |
I hope her son is ok
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CapnMuffin 07/02/18 9:28:57 PM #65: |
@ExtremeLuchador posted...
Stuff like this happens everywhere. US Bank made my friend come back from her honeymoon or be fired. She and her husband had to rent a car and drive 14 hours back. Really? Kind of interested to hear the details on this (I work for US Bank) --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 | NNID : CapnMuffin | XBGT : Capn Muffin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trigg3rH4ppy 07/02/18 9:31:37 PM #66: |
iHuman posted...
I think people focus too much on "spiritual meanings." Holding someones hand while on life support isn't doing anything and will mean nothing. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 07/02/18 10:38:54 PM #67: |
Both are right/wrong.
Manager was too callous, just put her on unpaid leave. That way everyone wins. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 07/03/18 10:09:26 AM #68: |
CapnMuffin posted...
@ExtremeLuchador posted...Stuff like this happens everywhere. US Bank made my friend come back from her honeymoon or be fired. She and her husband had to rent a car and drive 14 hours back. It was a branch in Ohio. Her boss called her on her honeymoon and demanded she come in because of short-staffing. She was a supervisor. This happened in maybe 2005 or 2006. --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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clearaflagrantj 07/03/18 10:11:11 AM #69: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Why unionize? The management layer already had a protocol for treating the employee well. There are already channels in place to resolve management abuses, as we see evidenced here. You really drank the dumbass Kool Aid huh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 07/03/18 10:11:27 AM #70: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
If you have an argument for why this worker would've needed to unionize for something, I'd love to hear it. you can't always count on social media outrage to work as a backstop for your shitty boss theoretically you can always count on the union for that --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 07/03/18 10:15:05 AM #71: |
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gp1829 07/03/18 2:00:47 PM #72: |
Knowledge_King posted...
Both are right/wrong. So how does that make them both wrong and right? In what way is the mother in the wrong? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 07/03/18 2:02:18 PM #73: |
JustMyOpinion posted...
Fair, next. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3khc 07/03/18 2:07:15 PM #74: |
Balrog0 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...If you have an argument for why this worker would've needed to unionize for something, I'd love to hear it. This. Unions fight for workers rights. Exactly what social media did here. --- ---- ----- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3khc 07/03/18 2:10:13 PM #75: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...GATTJT posted...DK9292 posted...Veggeta X posted... Seems to me she's about to bring up how this customer was saved due to getting attention. While others were fired for similar reasons becauze they didn't make enough noise. --- ---- ----- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 07/03/18 2:11:48 PM #76: |
Also the chick who commented on the companys post about it...wtf. Why do people like that exist?
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Questionmarktarius 07/03/18 2:13:29 PM #77: |
JustMyOpinion posted...
Fair, next. FMLA, next. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 07/03/18 2:24:08 PM #78: |
Here is the full quote of the post that was cut off in the picture
Many other people had similar issues and were just fired. This one got the companys "sympathy" just because it went viral on social media. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 07/03/18 2:24:24 PM #79: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...Fair, next. So rather than saying there is no reason you cant work the manager should have known about FMLA and spoke about it with the employee. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/03/18 2:31:01 PM #80: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...JustMyOpinion posted...Fair, next. Yes. Very yes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sunhawk 07/03/18 2:43:59 PM #81: |
I know employees like this, or at least, I used to. They are fucking vile. I'm glad the person got fired, though. How was this not in first-tier media, though, like news channels and newspaper? I don't understand.
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Questionmarktarius 07/03/18 2:52:12 PM #82: |
Sunhawk posted...
I know employees like this, or at least, I used to. They are fucking vile. I'm glad the person got fired, though. How was this not in first-tier media, though, like news channels and newspaper? I don't understand. Doesn't fit the current "fuck Trump / ban guns! / oooo - celebrity wedding!" media trend? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthGravid 07/03/18 3:14:30 PM #83: |
The Corporate Office posted...
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SomeGuyUO 07/03/18 3:14:37 PM #84: |
Here's the Facebook post from the picture
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155476607486643&id=362238971642&_rdr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 07/03/18 8:33:34 PM #85: |
gp1829 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...Both are right/wrong. She shouldn't be given paid leave forever/special treatment IMO just because her son is dying. However the manager is right about that, but wrong about her not showing up meaning she's fired. That's just...callous and mean. And honestly helps no one. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dib153 07/03/18 8:38:47 PM #86: |
Irony posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...Veggeta X posted...JustMyOpinion posted...You're the one who attacked me for no reason. I lol'd --- "Dib is my new hero. Epic insult man, epic to the max" ~ Drakona ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/03/18 8:59:53 PM #87: |
frozenshock posted...
If you want "specific" examples you'd have to compare item by item the working conditions and benefits of unionized workers with a CBA and someone who's not unionized in a comparable job. You really wanna go through that trouble? Its not like you'll change your mind anyway. FWIW it's been pretty well documented that the presence of a union benefits all the workers, even the non-unionized ones. --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 07/05/18 1:07:29 PM #88: |
averagejoel posted...
frozenshock posted...If you want "specific" examples you'd have to compare item by item the working conditions and benefits of unionized workers with a CBA and someone who's not unionized in a comparable job. You really wanna go through that trouble? Its not like you'll change your mind anyway. isn't that because unions have traditionally negotiated for all workers, and charged non-membership fees for doing so? not saying whether that's bad or good, but the court just made that harder to do so I wonder how public unions are going to work going forward --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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