Current Events > #URGENT: New indictment/s expected in Mueller probe

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BWLurker
07/13/18 2:46:35 PM
#101:


Trump and the GOP as a whole are having awfully guilty reactions for super innocent people

Think Trump ever saw Hamlet? He should take Queen Gertrudes advice to heart.
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Polycosm
07/13/18 2:46:47 PM
#102:


_RETS_ posted...
If he had no involvement, then we will have been correct about it being a witch hunt to take him down.

The scope of the investigation is Russian coordination with individuals associated with the campaign of the President, and any matters arising from that. If it leads to Trump, so be it. If it doesn't, then it still fulfilled its stated purpose and found a ton of witches. In no scenario is Trump correct in characterizing this as "a witch hunt to take him down," unless you have evidence that Mueller isn't conducting his investigation objectively and dispassionately.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 2:48:34 PM
#104:


CruelBuffalo posted...
Sure, but leftists won't be happy with that at all if Trump ends up coming out of it clean. If he had no involvement, then we will have been correct about it being a witch hunt to take him down

Also I thought you said you had no dog in this fight, @_RETS_. What do you mean by we? What group are you referring to here ;)


Misspoke. Meant "he." I agree with some Trump stuff, disagree with some stuff, support gay marriage, abortion, drug legalization, separation of church and state, think religion has no place in politics, and think people should be able to really do whatever the fuck they want if it isn't causing harm to someone else. So you tell me where that puts me on a political spectrum.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 2:51:12 PM
#105:


Polycosm posted...
_RETS_ posted...
If he had no involvement, then we will have been correct about it being a witch hunt to take him down.

The scope of the investigation is Russian coordination with individuals associated with the campaign of the President, and any matters arising from that. If it leads to Trump, so be it. If it doesn't, then it still fulfilled its stated purpose and found a ton of witches. In no scenario is Trump correct in characterizing this as "a witch hunt to take him down," unless you have evidence that Mueller isn't conducting his investigation objectively and dispassionately.


I already conceded I mis-used the buzz word. My initial post was solely about the leftist meltdown bound to happen if the investigation doesn't go where they want it to go. The same ones praising Mueller will be insisting he has actually been a nazi all along. If that's the case, then watch it happen. I can almost guarantee it.
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Heineken14
07/13/18 2:51:33 PM
#106:


These indictments are more symbolic than anything.
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ultimate reaver
07/13/18 2:53:30 PM
#107:


Heineken14 posted...
These indictments are more symbolic than anything.


Symbolic of what? Guilt?
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Mr_Biscuit
07/13/18 2:54:41 PM
#108:


ultimate reaver posted...
Heineken14 posted...
These indictments are more symbolic than anything.


Symbolic of what? Guilt?

He was mocking Admiral
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The Great Muta 22
07/13/18 2:55:24 PM
#109:


_RETS_ posted...
Polycosm posted...
_RETS_ posted...
If he had no involvement, then we will have been correct about it being a witch hunt to take him down.

The scope of the investigation is Russian coordination with individuals associated with the campaign of the President, and any matters arising from that. If it leads to Trump, so be it. If it doesn't, then it still fulfilled its stated purpose and found a ton of witches. In no scenario is Trump correct in characterizing this as "a witch hunt to take him down," unless you have evidence that Mueller isn't conducting his investigation objectively and dispassionately.


I already conceded I mis-used the buzz word. My initial post was solely about the leftist meltdown bound to happen if the investigation doesn't go where they want it to go. The same ones praising Mueller will be insisting he has actually been a nazi all along. If that's the case, then watch it happen. I can almost guarantee it.


That's a stupid takeaway from all of this. Kind of seems like you're simply desperate to laugh at liberals regardless of anything even happening, which is quite pathetic tbh
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_RETS_
07/13/18 2:58:41 PM
#111:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Polycosm posted...
_RETS_ posted...
If he had no involvement, then we will have been correct about it being a witch hunt to take him down.

The scope of the investigation is Russian coordination with individuals associated with the campaign of the President, and any matters arising from that. If it leads to Trump, so be it. If it doesn't, then it still fulfilled its stated purpose and found a ton of witches. In no scenario is Trump correct in characterizing this as "a witch hunt to take him down," unless you have evidence that Mueller isn't conducting his investigation objectively and dispassionately.


I already conceded I mis-used the buzz word. My initial post was solely about the leftist meltdown bound to happen if the investigation doesn't go where they want it to go. The same ones praising Mueller will be insisting he has actually been a nazi all along. If that's the case, then watch it happen. I can almost guarantee it.


That's a stupid takeaway from all of this. Kind of seems like you're simply desperate to laugh at liberals regardless of anything even happening, which is quite pathetic tbh


What's pathetic is melting down when you don't get your way. Why would I be desperate to laugh at either the far left or the far right? They both embarrass themselves plenty.

Nothing that's happening affects me at all. So my only investment is enjoying the circus.
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The Great Muta 22
07/13/18 3:02:12 PM
#113:


_RETS_ posted...
What's pathetic is melting down when you don't get your way. Why would I be desperate to laugh at either the far left or the far right? They both embarrass themselves plenty.

Nothing that's happening affects me at all. So my only investment is enjoying the circus.


If they both embarrass themselves plenty already, why are you going on about a hypothetical that hasn't come close to happening and not instead laughing at things that actually have happened?

Seems stupid
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:02:33 PM
#114:


shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Polycosm posted...
_RETS_ posted...
If he had no involvement, then we will have been correct about it being a witch hunt to take him down.

The scope of the investigation is Russian coordination with individuals associated with the campaign of the President, and any matters arising from that. If it leads to Trump, so be it. If it doesn't, then it still fulfilled its stated purpose and found a ton of witches. In no scenario is Trump correct in characterizing this as "a witch hunt to take him down," unless you have evidence that Mueller isn't conducting his investigation objectively and dispassionately.


I already conceded I mis-used the buzz word. My initial post was solely about the leftist meltdown bound to happen if the investigation doesn't go where they want it to go. The same ones praising Mueller will be insisting he has actually been a nazi all along. If that's the case, then watch it happen. I can almost guarantee it.


That's a stupid takeaway from all of this. Kind of seems like you're simply desperate to laugh at liberals regardless of anything even happening, which is quite pathetic tbh


What's pathetic is melting down when you don't get your way. Why would I be desperate to laugh at either the far left or the far right? They both embarrass themselves plenty.

Nothing that's happening affects me at all. So my only investment is enjoying the circus.

This is embarrassing for you, though


In what way? Predicting a reaction that will in all likelihood happen if the investigation doesn't up thing down Trump?

You're free to laugh at white lemonade stand lady, which I'm sure you did because of how ridiculous it was, and I'll laugh with you, and I'm free to laugh at leftist meltdowns when it's warranted. Neither of us should be embarrassed by either scenario.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:05:43 PM
#115:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
What's pathetic is melting down when you don't get your way. Why would I be desperate to laugh at either the far left or the far right? They both embarrass themselves plenty.

Nothing that's happening affects me at all. So my only investment is enjoying the circus.


If they both embarrass themselves plenty already, why are you going on about a hypothetical that hasn't come close to happening and not instead laughing at things that actually have happened?

Seems stupid


Is talking about a hypothetical mutually exclusive from laughing at anything currently going on? Are you so upset about this because you know this is how the left would react if the hypothetical were to play out? I just don't understand your point.

Do you voice your objection when people say that conservatives would have been cheering for the perpetrator that bashed that Mexican grandpa with a brick if they had been white instead of black? Because that is a way more far-fetched scenario than my hypothetical here.

As an example, I think it was just as eye-rolling and ridiculous for the bakers to get so hung up on a gay wedding that it got blown up into a national story. Stupid of them to let something that doesn't affect them in any way take away from their business
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COVxy
07/13/18 3:11:58 PM
#117:


Antifar posted...
Hi, leftist here: we already think this investigation is, at best, just adjacent to the material problems Trump and his administration poses to the American public. Like, if you end up finding wrongdoing on Trump's behalf through this, that's fine and would be good, but
- I don't think anything will result in Republicans voting to impeach, and you're going to need Republicans for impeachment
- In the meantime, focusing on the vagaries of the investigation over the more concrete ways in which Trump is screwing the average person feels misguided, as a political tactic. To be fair, it's mostly MSNBC with that; most Democratic politicians I've seen have been good about not going single-minded about Russia.


This is kinda gross.
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ledbowman
07/13/18 3:12:46 PM
#119:


shockthemonkey posted...
You came into a topic about federal indictments, called the Mueller investigation a witch hunt, laughed at a hypothetical meltdown other people will have and then had to backtrack a hundred times because youre just randomly saying nonsense.

Its embarrassing for you. Or at least it should be. Like if youre bored and wanna go laugh at someone, laugh at Rudy Giuliani rather than laughing about a scenario you made up in your head.

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Ganon19
07/13/18 3:17:13 PM
#120:


Frostshock posted...
Indicting Russians is the pinnacle of nothingburgers. They're literally untouchable.

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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:18:08 PM
#121:


shockthemonkey posted...

I am bored, you got me. But if this plays out and leads to nothing on Trump, I'll be sure to follow up about the rapid turn on Mueller.

And I am laughing at Giuliani, just like I laughed at Spicer, just like a laugh at Trump when he rattles off some unintelligible rambling nonsense, just like I laugh at religious people getting butthurt about gays, just like I laugh at the alt-righter who couldn't tear up the protest sign. It actually isn't an either/or kind of thing. I can laugh at current bullshit from either side of the aisle and predict reactions from either side and you can do the same.

The rightist melt down when Roe doesn't get overturned will be just as entertaining.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/13/18 3:20:15 PM
#122:


shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Polycosm posted...
_RETS_ posted...
If he had no involvement, then we will have been correct about it being a witch hunt to take him down.

The scope of the investigation is Russian coordination with individuals associated with the campaign of the President, and any matters arising from that. If it leads to Trump, so be it. If it doesn't, then it still fulfilled its stated purpose and found a ton of witches. In no scenario is Trump correct in characterizing this as "a witch hunt to take him down," unless you have evidence that Mueller isn't conducting his investigation objectively and dispassionately.


I already conceded I mis-used the buzz word. My initial post was solely about the leftist meltdown bound to happen if the investigation doesn't go where they want it to go. The same ones praising Mueller will be insisting he has actually been a nazi all along. If that's the case, then watch it happen. I can almost guarantee it.


What's pathetic is melting down when you don't get your way. Why would I be desperate to laugh at either the far left or the far right? They both embarrass themselves plenty.

Nothing that's happening affects me at all. So my only investment is enjoying the circus.

This is embarrassing for you, though


In what way? Predicting a reaction that will in all likelihood happen if the investigation doesn't up thing down Trump?

You're free to laugh at white lemonade stand lady, which I'm sure you did because of how ridiculous it was, and I'll laugh with you, and I'm free to laugh at leftist meltdowns when it's warranted. Neither of us should be embarrassed by either scenario.

You came into a topic about federal indictments, called the Mueller investigation a witch hunt, laughed at a hypothetical meltdown other people will have and then had to backtrack a hundred times because youre just randomly saying nonsense.

Its embarrassing for you. Or at least it should be. Like if youre bored and wanna go laugh at someone, laugh at Rudy Giuliani rather than laughing about a scenario you made up in your head.

This, plus theres nothing less useful than someone who just comes into discussions to say I have no opinion on this but Im excited to feel superior to whoever loses
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:22:02 PM
#123:


Mr_Biscuit posted...

I don't have to be useful here. I am useful IRL. CE is my outlet for uselessness. I will be superior to whoever loses by the way. If Tump goes down in flames I will also be superior to the Hannitys of the world whining about the outcome.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:26:55 PM
#125:


shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...

I am bored, you got me. But if this plays out and leads to nothing on Trump, I'll be sure to follow up about the rapid turn on Mueller.

And I am laughing at Giuliani, just like I laughed at Spicer, just like a laugh at Trump when he rattles off some unintelligible rambling nonsense, just like I laugh at religious people getting butthurt about gays, just like I laugh at the alt-righter who couldn't tear up the protest sign. It actually isn't an either/or kind of thing. I can laugh at current bullshit from either side of the aisle and predict reactions from either side and you can do the same.

The rightist melt down when Roe doesn't get overturned will be just as entertaining.

Quick, backtrack some more and remind us how youre cooler than everyone else. Surely that will be less embarrassing!


What exactly am I backtracking on? I've said from the start I'll shit on ridiculous behavior from the right or the left.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:33:53 PM
#127:


shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...

I am bored, you got me. But if this plays out and leads to nothing on Trump, I'll be sure to follow up about the rapid turn on Mueller.

And I am laughing at Giuliani, just like I laughed at Spicer, just like a laugh at Trump when he rattles off some unintelligible rambling nonsense, just like I laugh at religious people getting butthurt about gays, just like I laugh at the alt-righter who couldn't tear up the protest sign. It actually isn't an either/or kind of thing. I can laugh at current bullshit from either side of the aisle and predict reactions from either side and you can do the same.

The rightist melt down when Roe doesn't get overturned will be just as entertaining.

Quick, backtrack some more and remind us how youre cooler than everyone else. Surely that will be less embarrassing!


What exactly am I backtracking on? I've said from the start I'll shit on ridiculous behavior from the right or the left.

I swear Im laughing at Rudy too! Please believe me, this isnt embarrassing!

Bud just let it go. You embarrassed yourself and now youre trying to justify it. I already explained it to you.


I don't care if you believe me or not, it doesn't change what is. It's like you cant accept that calling out one thing is not mutually exclusive to calling out another.

You do realize someone can call out leftist bullshit without being a Trump cultist, right? And you realize that me saying "if this happens, this will probably follow" doesn't prevent me from also acknowledging current nonsense?
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BWLurker
07/13/18 3:35:12 PM
#128:


_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...

I am bored, you got me. But if this plays out and leads to nothing on Trump, I'll be sure to follow up about the rapid turn on Mueller.

And I am laughing at Giuliani, just like I laughed at Spicer, just like a laugh at Trump when he rattles off some unintelligible rambling nonsense, just like I laugh at religious people getting butthurt about gays, just like I laugh at the alt-righter who couldn't tear up the protest sign. It actually isn't an either/or kind of thing. I can laugh at current bullshit from either side of the aisle and predict reactions from either side and you can do the same.

The rightist melt down when Roe doesn't get overturned will be just as entertaining.

Quick, backtrack some more and remind us how youre cooler than everyone else. Surely that will be less embarrassing!


What exactly am I backtracking on? I've said from the start I'll shit on ridiculous behavior from the right or the left.

Do you live in the US?
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:39:07 PM
#129:


BWLurker posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...

I am bored, you got me. But if this plays out and leads to nothing on Trump, I'll be sure to follow up about the rapid turn on Mueller.

And I am laughing at Giuliani, just like I laughed at Spicer, just like a laugh at Trump when he rattles off some unintelligible rambling nonsense, just like I laugh at religious people getting butthurt about gays, just like I laugh at the alt-righter who couldn't tear up the protest sign. It actually isn't an either/or kind of thing. I can laugh at current bullshit from either side of the aisle and predict reactions from either side and you can do the same.

The rightist melt down when Roe doesn't get overturned will be just as entertaining.

Quick, backtrack some more and remind us how youre cooler than everyone else. Surely that will be less embarrassing!


What exactly am I backtracking on? I've said from the start I'll shit on ridiculous behavior from the right or the left.

Do you live in the US?


I do.
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ledbowman
07/13/18 3:46:23 PM
#130:


_RETS_ posted...
I don't care if you believe me or not

Clearly
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:48:27 PM
#131:


ledbowman posted...
_RETS_ posted...
I don't care if you believe me or not

Clearly


I'm more just curious as to what the bar is for brig a Trump cultist? I haven't defended the guy and disagree with just about everything he says about the investigation because he shouldn't be shit talking it in his position
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_RETS_
07/13/18 3:53:40 PM
#133:


shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...

I am bored, you got me. But if this plays out and leads to nothing on Trump, I'll be sure to follow up about the rapid turn on Mueller.

And I am laughing at Giuliani, just like I laughed at Spicer, just like a laugh at Trump when he rattles off some unintelligible rambling nonsense, just like I laugh at religious people getting butthurt about gays, just like I laugh at the alt-righter who couldn't tear up the protest sign. It actually isn't an either/or kind of thing. I can laugh at current bullshit from either side of the aisle and predict reactions from either side and you can do the same.

The rightist melt down when Roe doesn't get overturned will be just as entertaining.

Quick, backtrack some more and remind us how youre cooler than everyone else. Surely that will be less embarrassing!


What exactly am I backtracking on? I've said from the start I'll shit on ridiculous behavior from the right or the left.

I swear Im laughing at Rudy too! Please believe me, this isnt embarrassing!

Bud just let it go. You embarrassed yourself and now youre trying to justify it. I already explained it to you.


I don't care if you believe me or not, it doesn't change what is. It's like you cant accept that calling out one thing is not mutually exclusive to calling out another.

You do realize someone can call out leftist bullshit without being a Trump cultist, right? And you realize that me saying "if this happens, this will probably follow" doesn't prevent me from also acknowledging current nonsense?

I realize that you coming into a topic about Mueller indictments and screaming witch hunt and then backpedaling is embarrassing. I know that ranting about how youll laugh at a hypothetical situation instead of discussing whats actually happening is embarrassing. I know you trying to justify it via more backpedaling is embarrassing. I know that getting bodied by someone as dumb as me is definitely embarrassing.

So you can keep embarrassing yourself by trying to justify all this or you can let it go.


Never said it was a witch hunt, as it is not a finished investigation. I said it could end up proving to have been one upon its conclusion. And even then, I admitted my mistake in using the term incorrectly. Admitting to a mistake is not backpedaling.
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Tappor
07/13/18 3:54:07 PM
#134:


Jake Tappor
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ledbowman
07/13/18 3:54:58 PM
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Mr_Biscuit
07/13/18 3:59:20 PM
#136:


ledbowman posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b71f2eYdTc" data-time="

I feel like this gets forgotten somehow

He textbook asked them to do it
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LRodC
07/13/18 3:59:59 PM
#138:


Let me guess, nothing will come of anything and he will win in 2020.

Stop getting peoples hopes up.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 4:01:12 PM
#139:


shockthemonkey posted...
I didnt call it a witch hunt! Except when I did. And then I said that doesnt count, which isnt backpedaling!

guess you want to keep embarrassing yourself


But I didn't say it was a witch hunt.... because that wouldn't be determined until the conclusion, which hasn't been reached.

So witch hunt wasn't the correct term, since I don't think Mueller has a political motive and no reason to believe he isn't doing things correctly. But you're lying to yourself if you think the media and leftist citizens will be as satisfied with the integrity of his investigation as they are now if it concludes Trump did no wrong.
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Axiom
07/13/18 4:03:04 PM
#140:


Lmao. Totally nothing to Russia guys
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BLAKUboy
07/13/18 4:03:42 PM
#141:


LRodC posted...
Let me guess, nothing will come of anything and he will win in 2020.

Stop getting peoples hopes up.

Read past the topic title next time.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/13/18 4:06:28 PM
#142:


_RETS_ posted...
because that wouldn't be determined until the conclusion


Yeah, let us wait to see if this investigation that has already produced guilty pleas is a witch hunt.
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ledbowman
07/13/18 4:08:30 PM
#143:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
ledbowman posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b71f2eYdTc" data-time="

I feel like this gets forgotten somehow

He textbook asked them to do it


July 27, 2016, Trump: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."
Indictment: That evening, Russian operatives targeted Clinton campaign emails "for the first time."
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_RETS_
07/13/18 4:10:44 PM
#144:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
_RETS_ posted...
because that wouldn't be determined until the conclusion


Yeah, let us wait to see if this investigation that has already produced guilty pleas is a witch hunt.


Not on Muellers part. It would be more of a cultural/media witch hunt if it concludes Trump didn't collude because you know they don't care at all about the indictments if they don't end up taking Trump down. That's why my very first post predicted the left will then flip on Mueller if the investigation doesn't go their way.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 4:14:14 PM
#146:


shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
I didnt call it a witch hunt! Except when I did. And then I said that doesnt count, which isnt backpedaling!

guess you want to keep embarrassing yourself


But I didn't say it was a witch hunt.... because that wouldn't be determined until the conclusion, which hasn't been reached.

So witch hunt wasn't the correct term, since I don't think Mueller has a political motive and no reason to believe he isn't doing things correctly. But you're lying to yourself if you think the media and leftist citizens will be as satisfied with the integrity of his investigation as they are now if it concludes Trump did no wrong.

This is what embarrassing backtracking looks like


You continuing to say that doesn't make it true. I can admit if I didn't use a term correctly. I can admit that I was incorrect about something.
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_RETS_
07/13/18 4:16:27 PM
#148:


shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
_RETS_ posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
I didnt call it a witch hunt! Except when I did. And then I said that doesnt count, which isnt backpedaling!

guess you want to keep embarrassing yourself


But I didn't say it was a witch hunt.... because that wouldn't be determined until the conclusion, which hasn't been reached.

So witch hunt wasn't the correct term, since I don't think Mueller has a political motive and no reason to believe he isn't doing things correctly. But you're lying to yourself if you think the media and leftist citizens will be as satisfied with the integrity of his investigation as they are now if it concludes Trump did no wrong.

This is what embarrassing backtracking looks like


You continuing to say that doesn't make it true. I can admit if I didn't use a term correctly. I can admit that I was incorrect about something.

Ok prove it


Prove...what?
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Shadow Don
07/13/18 4:18:10 PM
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Start throwing water on the republican congress and see which one melts
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