Current Events > Is homophobia and transphobia the same as other phobias?

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Bass_X0 07/20/18 1:16:21 PM #1:	Someone says they have a phobia of spiders, water, heights or whatever - everyone just accepts it and makes allowances because its not something they can have control over; its just a fact of their lives they have to live with. But the same is not true for transphobia and homophobia. I dont think either of those should be described as phobias at all. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:905419911] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>Someone says they have a phobia of spiders, water, heights or whatever - everyone just accepts it and makes allowances because its not something they can have control over; its just a fact of their lives they have to live with. But the same is not true for transphobia and homophobia. I dont think either of those should be described as phobias at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueJester007 07/20/18 1:16:56 PM #2:	No. --- Donald Trump is under your bed. <cite>BlueJester007 posted [p:905419948] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 07/20/18 1:18:09 PM #3:	No, calling them phobias is a bit of a misnomer Although I guess it could have been more applicable back when people coined those terms --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:905420010] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>No, calling them phobias is a bit of a misnomer Although I guess it could have been more applicable back when people coined those terms</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 07/20/18 1:21:06 PM #4:	I agree they shouldn't be labeled phobias and that Homophobia should be fear of things that are like you. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:905420170] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>I agree they shouldn't be labeled phobias and that Homophobia should be fear of things that are like you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 07/20/18 1:21:33 PM #5:	Yes and no. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:905420192] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>Yes and no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 07/20/18 1:23:43 PM #6:	No because they don't fear them. they hate them. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:905420288] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 07/20/18 1:25:19 PM #7:	TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Some people do believe that you can "catch the gay" by being around gay people. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:905420381] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Some people do believe that you can "catch the gay" by being around gay people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amazon_Shampoo 07/20/18 1:26:54 PM #8:	It's more "fear" in the sense that most often fear is derived from a lack of understanding. In a more literal sense it more means a lack of empathy, compassion for another human because they happen to have been born in one of those situations, a lack of acceptance that these are just people trying to find the same happiness your looking for as well. Although it can sometimes go to describe outright hate or prejudice as well. As far as no longer seeing them as humans who are also entitled to happiness. It totally is an outdated word, should be something more akin to hate or wanting people to not have rights. I'm not sure what would be an acceptable word for that. <cite>Amazon_Shampoo posted [p:905420457] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>It's more "fear" in the sense that most often fear is derived from a lack of understanding. In a more literal sense it more means a lack of empathy, compassion for another human because they happen to have been born in one of those situations, a lack of acceptance that these are just people trying to find the same happiness your looking for as well. Although it can sometimes go to describe outright hate or prejudice as well. As far as no longer seeing them as humans who are also entitled to happiness. It totally is an outdated word, should be something more akin to hate or wanting people to not have rights. I'm not sure what would be an acceptable word for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Edge 07/20/18 1:28:48 PM #9:	TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view --- We're here. https://discord.gg/Q9K3ndP <cite>On_The_Edge posted [p:905420544] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpsycho 07/20/18 1:34:09 PM #10:	On_The_Edge posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view Gravity Falls avatar Why am I not surprised. --- https://imgur.com/ZrnUI3A ~drawn by United_World <cite>hyperpsycho posted [p:905420806] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Edge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view</quote> Gravity Falls avatar Why am I not surprised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 07/20/18 1:34:38 PM #11:	EbonTitanium posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Some people do believe that you can "catch the gay" by being around gay people. Or more like they scared of their true supressed self will be revealed around gay people <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:905420829] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Some people do believe that you can "catch the gay" by being around gay people.</quote> Or more like they scared of their true supressed self will be revealed around gay people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/20/18 1:35:35 PM #12:	No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905420864] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 07/20/18 1:39:12 PM #13:	NibeIungsnarf posted... No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then. What part of you thinks that people being technical about the terminology is being used as a mechanism to excuse or lessen the impact of the behavior? --- https://imgur.com/SGkkbF0 <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:905421019] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then.</quote> What part of you thinks that people being technical about the terminology is being used as a mechanism to excuse or lessen the impact of the behavior?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 07/20/18 1:41:00 PM #14:	I have arachnophobia, I'm not afraid of spiders, I just don't think they should get married. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:905421091] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>I have arachnophobia, I'm not afraid of spiders, I just don't think they should get married.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/20/18 1:41:40 PM #15:	People could probably get over a lot of phobias with some therapy and time. And I think a lot of homophobic fuckers are definitely scared of gay people. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:905421120] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>People could probably get over a lot of phobias with some therapy and time. And I think a lot of homophobic fuckers are definitely scared of gay people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 07/20/18 1:41:46 PM #16:	The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:905421125] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 07/20/18 1:44:14 PM #17:	Genocet_10-325 posted... The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter. Is that the DSM 5 definition? --- https://imgur.com/SGkkbF0 <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:905421250] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter.</quote> Is that the DSM 5 definition?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/20/18 1:44:21 PM #18:	Considering the fact that the lefties on this board think not dating a transgendered person is all that's required to call you transphobic, I'd say this hoard is the last place to get honest discussion on the subject. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905421258] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>Considering the fact that the lefties on this board think not dating a transgendered person is all that's required to call you transphobic, I'd say this hoard is the last place to get honest discussion on the subject.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/20/18 1:45:09 PM #19:	MrPeppers posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then. What part of you thinks that people being technical about the terminology is being used as a mechanism to excuse or lessen the impact of the behavior? I have no issue treating that kind of word sticklers the same as actual homophobes. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905421292] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then.</quote> What part of you thinks that people being technical about the terminology is being used as a mechanism to excuse or lessen the impact of the behavior?</quote> I have no issue treating that kind of word sticklers the same as actual homophobes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 07/20/18 1:46:19 PM #20:	Megaman50100 posted... I have arachnophobia, I'm not afraid of spiders, I just don't think they should get married. lol --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:905421359] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>Megaman50100 posted...</cite> <quote>I have arachnophobia, I'm not afraid of spiders, I just don't think they should get married.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/20/18 1:48:05 PM #21:	Irrational fears key word irrational. Yes I believe they are the same as other phobiasm Now hate and fear are related. When you hate something it's easy to fear it and so on. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905421452] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>Irrational fears key word irrational. Yes I believe they are the same as other phobiasm Now hate and fear are related. When you hate something it's easy to fear it and so on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 07/20/18 1:48:13 PM #22:	MrPeppers posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter. Is that the DSM 5 definition? Dictionary definition phobia fb noun an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. "he had a phobia about being under water" synonyms:fear, irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion; --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:905421460] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter.</quote> Is that the DSM 5 definition?</quote> Dictionary definition phobia fb noun an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. "he had a phobia about being under water" synonyms:fear, irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion;</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 07/20/18 1:49:57 PM #23:	Genocet_10-325 posted... MrPeppers posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter. Is that the DSM 5 definition? Dictionary definition phobia fb noun an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. "he had a phobia about being under water" synonyms:fear, irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion; Again, what is the DSM 5 definition? The diagnostic manual used for making a clinical diagnosis of phobias. --- https://imgur.com/SGkkbF0 <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:905421557] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>The definition of phobia is either a strong fear or strong aversion. Transphobia and homophobia fall in to the latter.</quote> Is that the DSM 5 definition?</quote> Dictionary definition phobia fb noun an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. "he had a phobia about being under water" synonyms:fear, irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion;</quote> Again, what is the DSM 5 definition? The diagnostic manual used for making a clinical diagnosis of phobias.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Authentic_fan 07/20/18 1:51:20 PM #24:	EbonTitanium posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Some people do believe that you can "catch the gay" by being around gay people. That depends on how fabulous they are. I'd get gay for redux <cite>Authentic_fan posted [p:905421626] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Some people do believe that you can "catch the gay" by being around gay people.</quote> That depends on how fabulous they are. I'd get gay for redux</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 07/20/18 1:52:27 PM #25:	On_The_Edge posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view Then thats just fucking stupid --- https://imgtc.com/i/6wZBSPr.png -Turbam https://imgtc.com/i/XrKGPKv.jpg <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:905421692] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Edge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view</quote> Then thats just fucking stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/20/18 1:53:01 PM #26:	DezDroppedFreak posted... On_The_Edge posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view Then thats just fucking stupid It's also a propaganda lie <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905421720] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Edge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view</quote> Then thats just fucking stupid</quote> It's also a propaganda lie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 07/20/18 1:54:06 PM #27:	NibeIungsnarf posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... On_The_Edge posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view Then thats just fucking stupid It's also a propaganda lie Exactly. Your personal worldview shouldn't be allowed to affect others lives. No one cares if your worldview disapproves of them --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:905421773] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Edge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view</quote> Then thats just fucking stupid</quote> It's also a propaganda lie</quote> Exactly. Your personal worldview shouldn't be allowed to affect others lives. No one cares if your worldview disapproves of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpsycho 07/20/18 1:55:24 PM #28:	NibeIungsnarf posted... MrPeppers posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then. What part of you thinks that people being technical about the terminology is being used as a mechanism to excuse or lessen the impact of the behavior? I have no issue treating that kind of word sticklers the same as actual homophobes. I'm with you. "Don't call it homophobia!" was a homophobic dog whistle. --- https://imgur.com/ZrnUI3A ~drawn by United_World <cite>hyperpsycho posted [p:905421837] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>No, sometimes the same word is used differently, but homophobes should just go right ahead and keep crying about how they're not afraid of homosexuals, they just hate their guts.I'm surely convinced they're not turd humans then.</quote> What part of you thinks that people being technical about the terminology is being used as a mechanism to excuse or lessen the impact of the behavior?</quote> I have no issue treating that kind of word sticklers the same as actual homophobes.</quote> I'm with you. "Don't call it homophobia!" was a homophobic dog whistle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 07/20/18 1:57:07 PM #29:	I didnt personally state not to call it homophobia. I was merely pointing out, much like estons comment, that its a bit of a misnomer. --- https://imgur.com/SGkkbF0 <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:905421911] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>I didnt personally state not to call it homophobia. I was merely pointing out, much like estons comment, that its a bit of a misnomer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/20/18 1:59:00 PM #30:	I wasn't making a misnormer. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905422020] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>I wasn't making a misnormer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpsycho 07/20/18 1:59:57 PM #31:	MrPeppers posted... I didnt personally state not to call it homophobia. I was merely pointing out, much like estons comment, that its a bit of a misnomer. I wasn't talking about you. --- https://imgur.com/ZrnUI3A ~drawn by United_World <cite>hyperpsycho posted [p:905422060] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>I didnt personally state not to call it homophobia. I was merely pointing out, much like estons comment, that its a bit of a misnomer.</quote> I wasn't talking about you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/20/18 2:03:26 PM #32:	Genocet_10-325 posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... On_The_Edge posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view Then thats just fucking stupid It's also a propaganda lie Exactly. Your personal worldview shouldn't be allowed to affect others lives. No one cares if your worldview disapproves of them Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905422258] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Edge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view</quote> Then thats just fucking stupid</quote> It's also a propaganda lie</quote> Exactly. Your personal worldview shouldn't be allowed to affect others lives. No one cares if your worldview disapproves of them</quote> Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/20/18 2:05:40 PM #33:	darkjedilink posted... Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot? You say stupid shit all the time so should we label all people who follow your pretend ideology as troll accounts? <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905422402] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot?</quote> You say stupid shit all the time so should we label all people who follow your pretend ideology as troll accounts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/18 2:06:07 PM #34:	eston posted... No, calling them phobias is a bit of a misnomer Although I guess it could have been more applicable back when people coined those terms --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:905422438] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>No, calling them phobias is a bit of a misnomer Although I guess it could have been more applicable back when people coined those terms</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 07/20/18 2:06:33 PM #35:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... No, calling them phobias is a bit of a misnomer --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:905422462] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>No, calling them phobias is a bit of a misnomer</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/20/18 2:10:20 PM #36:	NibeIungsnarf posted... darkjedilink posted... Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot? You say stupid shit all the time so should we label all people who follow your pretend ideology as troll accounts? Ad hominem. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905422665] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot?</quote> You say stupid shit all the time so should we label all people who follow your pretend ideology as troll accounts?</quote> Ad hominem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/20/18 2:18:11 PM #37:	I'm sorry but thinking same sex couples marrying will destroy marriage is irrational, believing gays being allowed to adopt is evil is also irrational. Those are just two irrational fears some people have about homosexuals. Yes calling it a phobia is fair. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905423100] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry but thinking same sex couples marrying will destroy marriage is irrational, believing gays being allowed to adopt is evil is also irrational. Those are just two irrational fears some people have about homosexuals. Yes calling it a phobia is fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCurseX2 07/20/18 2:20:12 PM #38:	If they were legitimate phobias then there would be no reason to shame people for having something that is irrational, right? --- As a Level 37 Sage, I expect to be treated with proper respect and acknowledged for my dedication to the GameFAQs Message Board Community as a whole. Thank you. <cite>TheCurseX2 posted [p:905423214] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote>If they were legitimate phobias then there would be no reason to shame people for having something that is irrational, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 07/20/18 2:28:14 PM #39:	TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. It's both. Bigots fear their families and peers being infiltrated by the abnormal and lash out in self-righteous anger to reject it. Many people who adamantly hate queer culture are scared shitless one of their children will grow up to be a part of it. It can throw a giant monkey wrench into their typical heteronormative timeline of goals (ie: career, dating, settling down, produce grandkids, passing the torch, etc). And that paranoia can spark rage within cultural purists bent on punishing those who don't conform, including their own children. It's especially funny when someone claims to be progressive and empathetic towards LGBT issues, yet desperately panics when it's revealed their child might be queer. Remember, folks: it's not just the extreme conservatives afraid their kids might grow up to be gay or trans. Almost anyone prone to desiring the white picket fenced priority of having grandchildren is just as susceptible of being a hater of queer culture. Political leaning often has very little impact on that. Because it's easy for people to say they're supportive of LGBT rights when it's a mainstream trend that attracts a pat on the back for doing the least possible. But it's a whole different ballgame for them when those issues enter their home...then you get to see their real colors. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/flcnpawn.png http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/84543589.gif <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:905423660] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> It's both. Bigots fear their families and peers being infiltrated by the abnormal and lash out in self-righteous anger to reject it. Many people who adamantly hate queer culture are scared shitless one of their children will grow up to be a part of it. It can throw a giant monkey wrench into their typical heteronormative timeline of goals (ie: career, dating, settling down, produce grandkids, passing the torch, etc). And that paranoia can spark rage within cultural purists bent on punishing those who don't conform, including their own children. It's especially funny when someone claims to be progressive and empathetic towards LGBT issues, yet desperately panics when it's revealed their child might be queer. Remember, folks: it's not just the extreme conservatives afraid their kids might grow up to be gay or trans. Almost anyone prone to desiring the white picket fenced priority of having grandchildren is just as susceptible of being a hater of queer culture. Political leaning often has very little impact on that. Because it's easy for people to say they're supportive of LGBT rights when it's a mainstream trend that attracts a pat on the back for doing the least possible. But it's a whole different ballgame for them when those issues enter their home...then you get to see their real colors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amazon_Shampoo 07/20/18 2:38:10 PM #40:	darkjedilink posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... On_The_Edge posted... TheVipaGTS posted... No because they don't fear them. they hate them. Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view Then thats just fucking stupid It's also a propaganda lie Exactly. Your personal worldview shouldn't be allowed to affect others lives. No one cares if your worldview disapproves of them Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot? It shouldn't, no one had the right to force their world view on your personal life. Same as I am sure you wouldn't ever disrespect a trans person right? It's just common sense. You will always find people on either side of things that are just rude and not great people, ignore them and just continue to respect the people you meet and in time you will see that it really is a both ways thing. <cite>Amazon_Shampoo posted [p:905424186] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Edge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No because they don't fear them. they hate them.</quote> Yet most of what people call homophobia or transphobia doesn't reflect hatred at all, just a difference in world view</quote> Then thats just fucking stupid</quote> It's also a propaganda lie</quote> Exactly. Your personal worldview shouldn't be allowed to affect others lives. No one cares if your worldview disapproves of them</quote> Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot?</quote> It shouldn't, no one had the right to force their world view on your personal life. Same as I am sure you wouldn't ever disrespect a trans person right? It's just common sense. You will always find people on either side of things that are just rude and not great people, ignore them and just continue to respect the people you meet and in time you will see that it really is a both ways thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NonDairyMiltank 07/20/18 5:04:11 PM #41:	darkjedilink posted... Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot? you're not a bigot if you decide you don't want to date or fuck a trans person no one is entitled to sex, relationships, or even a conversation with you if someone's butthurt demanding you support trans rights, you're already doing that by leaving them the fuck alone that's your contribution, if someone doesn't think that's enough, tough shit just remember there's a big difference between saying "all trans folk are unattractive" and "i haven't found a trans person i felt was attractive enough to date" if someone is dumb enough to try and call you out for saying the latter, remind their stupid ass that they don't have the right to dictate what you're supposed to think is attractive, only you determine that and its entirely possible to do all that above without being a complete jackass towards trans folk you don't like getting slaughtered by a savage rejection? hey guess what: neither do trans people let them down easy like you would want done with you... --- Moo. <cite>NonDairyMiltank posted [p:905432526] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot?</quote> you're not a bigot if you decide you don't want to date or fuck a trans person no one is entitled to sex, relationships, or even a conversation with you if someone's butthurt demanding you support trans rights, you're already doing that by leaving them the fuck alone that's your contribution, if someone doesn't think that's enough, tough shit just remember there's a big difference between saying "all trans folk are unattractive" and "i haven't found a trans person i felt was attractive enough to date" if someone is dumb enough to try and call you out for saying the latter, remind their stupid ass that they don't have the right to dictate what you're supposed to think is attractive, only you determine that and its entirely possible to do all that above without being a complete jackass towards trans folk you don't like getting slaughtered by a savage rejection? hey guess what: neither do trans people let them down easy like you would want done with you...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/20/18 5:08:34 PM #42:	NonDairyMiltank posted... darkjedilink posted... Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot? you're not a bigot if you decide you don't want to date or fuck a trans person no one is entitled to sex, relationships, or even a conversation with you if someone's butthurt demanding you support trans rights, you're already doing that by leaving them the fuck alone that's your contribution, if someone doesn't think that's enough, tough shit just remember there's a big difference between saying "all trans folk are unattractive" and "i haven't found a trans person i felt was attractive enough to date" if someone is dumb enough to try and call you out for saying the latter, remind their stupid ass that they don't have the right to dictate what you're supposed to think is attractive, only you determine that and its entirely possible to do all that above without being a complete jackass towards trans folk you don't like getting slaughtered by a savage rejection? hey guess what: neither do trans people let them down easy like you would want done with you... but also: people's preferences are heavily informed by society society is transphobic so it's perfectly reasonable to assume that some of this societal transphobia would find its way into someone's preferences --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:905432743] in Is homopho... [t:76825589]...</cite> <quote><cite>NonDairyMiltank posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Is that why choosing not to date transgendered people gets you labeled a bigot?</quote> you're not a bigot if you decide you don't want to date or fuck a trans person no one is entitled to sex, relationships, or even a conversation with you if someone's butthurt demanding you support trans rights, you're already doing that by leaving them the fuck alone that's your contribution, if someone doesn't think that's enough, tough shit just remember there's a big difference between saying "all trans folk are unattractive" and "i haven't found a trans person i felt was attractive enough to date" if someone is dumb enough to try and call you out for saying the latter, remind their stupid ass that they don't have the right to dictate what you're supposed to think is attractive, only you determine that and its entirely possible to do all that above without being a complete jackass towards trans folk you don't like getting slaughtered by a savage rejection? hey guess what: neither do trans people let them down easy like you would want done with you...</quote> but also: people's preferences are heavily informed by society society is transphobic so it's perfectly reasonable to assume that some of this societal transphobia would find its way into someone's preferences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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