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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 8:57:03 AM #54: |
Funkydog posted...
KhanJohnny posted...CyricZ posted...Are there any lines in the play where the priest's gender is thematically important or commented on? And many Anglicans and former Anglicans view that as a massive heresy. Shakespeare himself would have shared that view, and he incidentally may have been a secret Catholic himself, who do not have male priests. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 07/21/18 8:57:10 AM #55: |
KhanJohnny posted...
COVxy posted...If you're culture must be to the exclusion of others, it probably wasn't a very good culture to begin with. Nobody sees how anything you say works. It makes much sense as facedesking a scrabble board and trying to construct a sentence from the result. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 07/21/18 8:57:48 AM #56: |
KhanJohnny posted...
frozenshock posted...Well then make a Shakespeare play yourself and hire an all-male cast instead of complaining about female actors. do you want some cheese with that whine --- "Never seen a group of people more obsessed with a man's naked, hairy ass than the men at Current Events." -SBAllen 2018 We live in a society ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 07/21/18 8:59:06 AM #57: |
KhanJohnny posted...
Funkydog posted...KhanJohnny posted...CyricZ posted...Are there any lines in the play where the priest's gender is thematically important or commented on? Who cares? The head of the church supports it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tamashiini 07/21/18 8:59:07 AM #58: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
KhanJohnny posted...COVxy posted...If you're culture must be to the exclusion of others, it probably wasn't a very good culture to begin with. I mean that could at least be interesting --- PSN: helicene Careful, Icarus. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 8:59:32 AM #59: |
Garioshi posted...
KhanJohnny posted...frozenshock posted...Well then make a Shakespeare play yourself and hire an all-male cast instead of complaining about female actors. Sure ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 07/21/18 9:00:01 AM #61: |
Yeah keep it up with the identity politics, cons - I mean liberals!
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CyricZ 07/21/18 9:01:17 AM #62: |
KhanJohnny posted...
CyricZ posted...Are there any lines in the play where the priest's gender is thematically important or commented on? How arrogant are you to assume "this is what Shakespeare believed"? Hell, the world doesn't even truly know Shakespeare or his identity, or if indeed he is a "him". There's some massive assumption making in your posts all across the board. Have you even done any research at all into the concept of Shakespeare? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 07/21/18 9:01:20 AM #63: |
This is a fucking stupid topic
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Error1355 07/21/18 9:03:38 AM #64: |
back in the day we didn't have these motor vehicles.
by us driving we're shitting on tradition and trying to erase history. --- Welcome home, shed your skin and expose your bones. Take my hand, follow us into the black so far that we can't get back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 07/21/18 9:05:32 AM #65: |
TC mom and dad shit on the perfectly fine tradition of TC not existimg by having sex.
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:07:26 AM #67: |
CyricZ posted...
KhanJohnny posted...CyricZ posted...Are there any lines in the play where the priest's gender is thematically important or commented on? The concept of female priests was an extremely marginal view in the late 1500s and it's quite uncontroversial to think Shakespeare, as a member of the establishment religion with possible Catholic sympathies would have held it unthinkable. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:08:53 AM #68: |
Error1355 posted...
back in the day we didn't have these motor vehicles. Terrible analogy. Driving a vehicle isn't analogous to changing a text. We just as well should change the Declaration of Independence to state "all people". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 07/21/18 9:09:41 AM #69: |
KhanJohnny posted...
The concept of female priests was an extremely marginal view in the late 1500s and it's quite uncontroversial to think Shakespeare, as a member of the establishment religion with possible Catholic sympathies would have held it unthinkable. Who the fuck cares dude. It's a play. Watch it and enjoy yourself without thinking everything is an overarching political statement because it probably fucking wasn't. Take off the tin foil hat. --- Welcome home, shed your skin and expose your bones. Take my hand, follow us into the black so far that we can't get back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:12:52 AM #70: |
Error1355 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...The concept of female priests was an extremely marginal view in the late 1500s and it's quite uncontroversial to think Shakespeare, as a member of the establishment religion with possible Catholic sympathies would have held it unthinkable. You think changing the gender of the priest at a time when this is a contentious issue in Christian churches isnt a political statement? Maybe I'm wearing a tin hat, but you certainly must have a blindfold on. Also, it was the left who promoted the idea that everything, especially art, is political. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 07/21/18 9:15:09 AM #71: |
Female priests are not a contentuous issue in Shakespeare church. Youre literally jumping through hoops (and probably penises) to make the argument that it is.
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CyricZ 07/21/18 9:17:33 AM #73: |
KhanJohnny posted...
You think changing the gender of the priest at a time when this is a contentious issue in Christian churches isnt a political statement? Honestly it very well could be, and frankly, I could not care less with regards to your reaction. Moreso, while I still doubt this scenario of yours is real, I realize I don't care if it's real or not. I honestly hope it is real, because the idea of a thin mind such as your own spending his Saturday in outrage over this is a perfect picture of modern traditionalism. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:17:46 AM #74: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Female priests are not a contentuous issue in Shakespeare church. Youre literally jumping through hoops (and probably penises) to make the argument that it is. Actually it is. Anglicans are a loose confederation, and they do not all accept female priests. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/21/18 9:18:23 AM #75: |
Dude, if you don't want to watch Shakespeare plays with women priests, don't watch them.
Do you complain about Shakespeare plays with motor vehicles in them? After all Shakespeare would consider them unthinkable as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:19:50 AM #77: |
CyricZ posted...
KhanJohnny posted...You think changing the gender of the priest at a time when this is a contentious issue in Christian churches isnt a political statement? Why wouldn't it be real? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/21/18 9:20:19 AM #78: |
Quick, everyone watch while I trigger TC: (skip to 36:10)
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NibeIungsnarf 07/21/18 9:21:54 AM #79: |
KhanJohnny posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...Female priests are not a contentuous issue in Shakespeare church. Youre literally jumping through hoops (and probably penises) to make the argument that it is. Just because theres only 99% and not 100% agreement that this topic is spastic does not mean that its a contentuous issue. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 07/21/18 9:27:59 AM #80: |
TC isn't wrong
Why are people pretending he's wrong? --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 07/21/18 9:28:12 AM #81: |
This topic should not have as many posts as it does.
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Alphamon 07/21/18 9:31:54 AM #83: |
SageHarpuia posted...
waaaah!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:32:37 AM #84: |
SageHarpuia posted...
TC isn't wrong Thanks! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 07/21/18 9:36:37 AM #85: |
back in the day the internet didn't exist and we only talked via written letters
this topic is trying to erase culture and erase the past --- Welcome home, shed your skin and expose your bones. Take my hand, follow us into the black so far that we can't get back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 07/21/18 9:38:55 AM #87: |
shockthemonkey posted...
KhanJohnny posted...CyricZ posted...KhanJohnny posted...CyricZ posted...Are there any lines in the play where the priest's gender is thematically important or commented on? --- "Never seen a group of people more obsessed with a man's naked, hairy ass than the men at Current Events." -SBAllen 2018 We live in a society ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:44:15 AM #88: |
Error1355 posted...
back in the day the internet didn't exist and we only talked via written letters Thats still a garbage analogy and you know it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/21/18 9:44:20 AM #89: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Why are you ok with women acting in his plays at all? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:45:34 AM #90: |
Garioshi posted...
Why are you ok with women acting in his plays at all? There is a large distinction between cast diversity and actually changing the text of the play. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 07/21/18 9:47:48 AM #92: |
KhanJohnny posted...
Garioshi posted...Why are you ok with women acting in his plays at all? There literally isnt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 9:58:02 AM #93: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
KhanJohnny posted...Garioshi posted...Why are you ok with women acting in his plays at all? Next time there's a public reading of the Declaration of Independence, demand that they change it to "All people". We must be consistent. It is obviously irrelevant what the author put on the page. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 07/21/18 9:59:28 AM #94: |
Shakespeare was also bisexual. Take that Christian values
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BignutzisBack 07/21/18 10:00:25 AM #95: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
KhanJohnny posted...Garioshi posted...Why are you ok with women acting in his plays at all? Uhh yes there is, Wtf? People who think in black and white on everything are so weird smh --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 07/21/18 10:03:48 AM #96: |
KhanJohnny posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...KhanJohnny posted...Garioshi posted...Why are you ok with women acting in his plays at all? Do you take issue with the changing of the constitution via amendmends or the interpretative work of the supreme court that grants rights not explicitly mentioned therein? If someone wants to do an interpretative piece on the declaration of independence, what would be the issue with changing the wording? Never heard of interpretative works of the DoI, though, so youre being a dishonest, conniving little dwimmerlaik, though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 07/21/18 10:05:08 AM #98: |
...Wasn't 'men' generally used in such a manner? What material difference in theme would changing it to 'all people' create?
Unless if you're opting to go the direction of "the interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment and the express terms of the Nineteenth Amendment are wrong." But who would want to do that? --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 10:08:29 AM #99: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
KhanJohnny posted...NibeIungsnarf posted...KhanJohnny posted...Garioshi posted...Why are you ok with women acting in his plays at all? No I don't have a problem with amending the Constitution, a legal text. The Declaration is different, as it is not a document with any legal meaning. It's a historical statement whose language has literary value. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/21/18 10:09:20 AM #100: |
ThePieReborn posted...
...Wasn't 'men' generally used in such a manner? What material difference in theme would changing it to 'all people' create? By continuing to use men we are supporting male supremacy, so says the liberal. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 07/21/18 10:10:31 AM #101: |
I don't really care about "muh oppression" arguments.
The text is unimportant so long as the themes of the piece remain intact. That parts of the text are integral to the theme is immaterial when the issue is changing text that does not impact the theme. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 07/21/18 10:11:28 AM #102: |
What a dumb topic. Also, Christians must have loved all of those men kissing men scenes in Shakespeare's plays.
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