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spudger
12/04/18 11:16:36 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/04/politics/robert-mueller-donald-trump-michael-flynn-paul-manafort-russia-investigation/index.html

It is now clear that Mueller is building a layered narrative, starting at the edge of the drama, by first exposing Russian election interference and fingering the culprits in Moscow's spy agencies. He has bolstered his story with successful swoops against former Trump aides like Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates, showing their ties to pro-Russian figures in Ukrainian politics, in a case ostensibly about financial fraud in the dubious trade of international lobbying.

There has been speculation that he is trying to leave a detailed paper trail in public in case Trump manages to fire him in a power play or he is somehow constrained in his writing of a final report.

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EliteC
12/04/18 11:20:11 AM
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Ambience
12/04/18 11:21:32 AM
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Mueller = modern day Elliot Ness if Capone was a moron.
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Muffinz0rz
12/04/18 11:23:24 AM
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This time
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Ambience
12/04/18 11:26:28 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
This time

I don't think you understand why people used that.
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Smashingpmkns
12/04/18 11:27:37 AM
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spudger posted...
fingering the culprits


Ooo
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spudger
12/04/18 11:28:03 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
spudger posted...
fingering the culprits


Ooo

Grab em
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X-Pac_Heat
12/04/18 11:29:09 AM
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They're hyping this up so much holy shit
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spudger
12/04/18 11:43:25 AM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
They're hyping this up so much holy shit

Holy shit!
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/04/18 1:59:38 PM
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EliteC posted...
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DK9292
12/04/18 2:00:30 PM
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Every time I see a topic about this guy, I think it's about yogurt.
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rikasa
12/04/18 2:01:39 PM
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CNN in particular is really hyping it up but I'm right there with em. I can't wait to see what Mueller comes up with. My guess is that it won't be very shocking or damaging to "Donald" but that would be juicy.
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A_Good_Boy
12/04/18 2:03:14 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
spudger posted...
fingering the culprince


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DarkTransient
12/04/18 2:03:57 PM
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I'm just ready to laugh when his final report pretty much comes down to "One time Donald Trump took a shit and didn't wash his hands afterwards."
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rikasa
12/04/18 2:05:57 PM
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Probably the best (most entertaining) possible outcome by far, even better than going about the man himself, is Donnie Jr. Netflix couldn't write it better.
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DEKMStephens
12/04/18 2:06:21 PM
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spudger posted...
fingering the culprits in Moscow

to catch the Trump, Mueller must become the Trump
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Veggeta X
12/04/18 2:06:40 PM
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Can someone dumb this down for me? I am very very slow to these big words.
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Questionmarktarius
12/04/18 2:09:11 PM
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The long con here is for Trump to resign on exactly January 21, to set up ten years of a fundamentalist Pence regime.
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gp1829
12/04/18 2:09:20 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
I'm just ready to laugh when his final report pretty much comes down to "One time Donald Trump took a shit and didn't wash his hands afterwards."


Yeah I'm sure it's just a case of everyone around him being a criminal expect him.
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Heineken14
12/04/18 2:21:04 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
spudger posted...
fingering the culprits


Ooo


When you're a special counsel they just let you do it!
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DarkRoast
12/04/18 2:22:13 PM
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This week in Pure Speculation (TM)
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Heineken14
12/04/18 2:22:36 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
I'm just ready to laugh when his final report pretty much comes down to "One time Donald Trump took a shit and didn't wash his hands afterwards."


Well, considering we already know it's more than that....

What I'M ready for though, is it to come down to him doing a bunch of shady shit that would get anyone else impeached and the GOP doing absolutely dick all about it and instead being "deeply troubled" by his actions, but call for unity so as to not divide the country further.
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creativerealms
12/04/18 2:23:43 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
This time

It's still the first time TM
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creativerealms
12/04/18 2:24:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The long con here is for Trump to resign on exactly January 21, to set up ten years of a fundamentalist Pence regime.

Ahhhhhhh. That would be scary.
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frozenshock
12/04/18 2:25:13 PM
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What manafort did to Yulia Tymoshenko is very, very revealing.
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 2:25:31 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
I'm just ready to laugh when his final report pretty much comes down to "One time Donald Trump took a shit and didn't wash his hands afterwards."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh1CqCAc2fE" data-time="

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Complete_Idi0t
12/04/18 2:26:41 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The long con here is for Trump to resign on exactly January 21, to set up ten years of a fundamentalist Pence regime.


Good thing he can't think of anyone other than himself
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EliteC
12/04/18 2:47:37 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Can someone dumb this down for me? I am very very slow to these big words.


Instead of writing up a report proving that this creature is a duck, which may get thrown to the garbage or kept in secret, he is taking s layered approach, he is using his indictments and conclusions in a way so he can make a matter of public record that this creature has a ducks beak, this creature also has duck feathers, etc and leave all pieces of evidence speak for themselves.

Think about it, if Manafort, Cohen, Stone, don jr and papadopulus get jailed for the Russia stuff, it will be obvious Donnie was on it too, even if the actual report never sees the light of the day
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Alpha218
12/04/18 2:58:32 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
This week in Pure Speculation (TM)

Why do you have to lie like that? Its pretty clear Mueller is much smarter than Trump, as evidenced by the fact that they let Manafort feed info to Trump and then said his lying ass is getting his plea deal revoked after Trump submitted answers to Mueller.

He knows the president wants to fire him. He knows Trump forced Sessions to resign so he could bring in someone not forced to recuse themself as head of DoJ to threaten Mueller. He knows the GOP controlled Congress will not protect him.

So why would he not have a failsafe in place if he gets fired?
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spudger
12/04/18 3:05:54 PM
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DEKMStephens posted...
spudger posted...
fingering the culprits in Moscow

to catch the Trump, Mueller must become the Trump

There can be only 1
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DarkRoast
12/04/18 3:07:48 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
DarkRoast posted...
This week in Pure Speculation (TM)

Why do you have to lie like that? Its pretty clear Mueller is much smarter than Trump, as evidenced by the fact that they let Manafort feed info to Trump and then said his lying ass is getting his plea deal revoked after Trump submitted answers to Mueller.

He knows the president wants to fire him. He knows Trump forced Sessions to resign so he could bring in someone not forced to recuse themself as head of DoJ to threaten Mueller. He knows the GOP controlled Congress will not protect him.

So why would he not have a failsafe in place if he gets fired?


I'm talking about CNN's reporting style.

Which at this point has become "I know a guy who knows a guy".
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spudger
12/04/18 3:14:10 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Alpha218 posted...
DarkRoast posted...
This week in Pure Speculation (TM)

Why do you have to lie like that? Its pretty clear Mueller is much smarter than Trump, as evidenced by the fact that they let Manafort feed info to Trump and then said his lying ass is getting his plea deal revoked after Trump submitted answers to Mueller.

He knows the president wants to fire him. He knows Trump forced Sessions to resign so he could bring in someone not forced to recuse themself as head of DoJ to threaten Mueller. He knows the GOP controlled Congress will not protect him.

So why would he not have a failsafe in place if he gets fired?


I'm talking about CNN's reporting style.

Which at this point has become "I know a guy who knows a guy".

but its not speculation...
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Funbazooka
12/04/18 3:21:28 PM
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 3:23:33 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
3Kw94wd


holy shit 2 years later and people still don't understand the difference between wiretapping trump and wiretapping russians?
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frozenshock
12/04/18 3:24:10 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
3Kw94wd


Didn't Trump say something about Obama spying on him through a bug in a microwave or something like that?
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spudger
12/04/18 3:24:43 PM
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plus it was a legal warrant...why is he bitching?
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Bishop9800
12/04/18 3:26:14 PM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
They're hyping this up so much holy shit


What do Awesome have to do with this?
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Alpha218
12/04/18 3:26:21 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Funbazooka posted...
3Kw94wd


holy shit 2 years later and people still don't understand the difference between wiretapping trump and wiretapping russians?

Notice how he left out literally any context from these pictures, showing just the headlines
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Funbazooka
12/04/18 3:42:24 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Funbazooka posted...
3Kw94wd


holy shit 2 years later and people still don't understand the difference between wiretapping trump and wiretapping russians?


They wiretapped the Trump campaign with the FISA warrant.

Collusion bombshell: DNC lawyers met with FBI on Russia allegations before surveillance warrant
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409817-russia-collusion-bombshell-dnc-lawyers-met-with-fbi-on-dossier-before

Congressional investigators have confirmed that a top FBI official met with Democratic Party lawyers to talk about allegations of Donald Trump-Russia collusion weeks before the 2016 election, and before the bureau secured a search warrant targeting Trumps campaign.

Former FBI general counsel James Baker met during the 2016 season with at least one attorney from Perkins Coie, the Democratic National Committees private law firm.

Thats the firm used by the DNC and Hillary Clintons campaign to secretly pay research firm Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operative, to compile a dossier of uncorroborated raw intelligence alleging Trump and Moscow were colluding to hijack the presidential election.

The dossier, though mostly unverified, was then used by the FBI as the main evidence seeking a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant targeting the Trump campaign in the final days of the campaign.

The revelation was confirmed both in contemporaneous evidence and testimony secured by a joint investigation by Republicans on the House Judiciary and Government Oversight committees, my source tells me.

It means the FBI had good reason to suspect the dossier was connected to the DNCs main law firm and was the product of a Democratic opposition-research effort to defeat Trump yet failed to disclose that information to the FISA court in October 2016, when the bureau applied for a FISA warrant to surveil Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
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frozenshock
12/04/18 3:56:56 PM
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They didn't wiretap the Trump campaign... the FISA warrant was to track financial transactions with Russia
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Bio1590
12/04/18 4:19:47 PM
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You know if you're going to just regurgitate talking points from T_D and /pol/ you should probably save them for when they're relevant.
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Bio1590
12/04/18 4:22:24 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The long con here is for Trump to resign on exactly January 21, to set up ten years of a fundamentalist Pence regime.

Idk if Pence is safe. They are prosecuting the guy who told the Trump campaign to take him as VP even though Trump didn't want him/know him. We know Pence has been involved in the probe.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/04/18 4:23:01 PM
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spudger posted...
DarkRoast posted...
Alpha218 posted...
DarkRoast posted...
This week in Pure Speculation (TM)

Why do you have to lie like that? Its pretty clear Mueller is much smarter than Trump, as evidenced by the fact that they let Manafort feed info to Trump and then said his lying ass is getting his plea deal revoked after Trump submitted answers to Mueller.

He knows the president wants to fire him. He knows Trump forced Sessions to resign so he could bring in someone not forced to recuse themself as head of DoJ to threaten Mueller. He knows the GOP controlled Congress will not protect him.

So why would he not have a failsafe in place if he gets fired?


I'm talking about CNN's reporting style.

Which at this point has become "I know a guy who knows a guy".

but its not speculation...

A lot of it is. There are sooo many articles that just boil down to "Here's what some guy says he thinks Mueller is doing right now."
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loafy013
12/04/18 4:41:23 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Thats the firm used by the DNC and Hillary Clintons campaign to secretly pay research firm Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operative, to compile a dossier of uncorroborated raw intelligence alleging Trump and Moscow were colluding to hijack the presidential election.

Ah, I see you left out the part where the dossier was originally funded by Republican groups until Donald got the nomination, then the DNC took over. I wonder why that part is always left out of the narrative.
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frozenshock
12/04/18 4:49:51 PM
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It's just jaw dropping the way Republicans continue to see Mueller as the enemy, like if they don't give a fuck that the president colluded with the soviets just because he's a republican.
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Cheater87
12/04/18 4:55:49 PM
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It sure is taking forever to finish.
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A_Good_Boy
12/04/18 4:56:33 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
It sure is taking forever to finish.

It's taking less time than all of those Benghazi probes, and with more results to show for it too.
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spudger
12/04/18 4:59:14 PM
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mmm buttery emails
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12/04/18 4:59:54 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
This time

It's still the first time TM

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frozenshock
12/04/18 5:02:09 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Cheater87 posted...
It sure is taking forever to finish.

It's taking less time than all of those Benghazi probes, and with more results to show for it too.


The benghazi probes were a disgrace.

Imagine, just for a second imagine if Al Gore had won in 2000. Imagine a democratic administration in office during 9/11. The republicans would have completely paralyzed the House trying to blame Gore and Lieberman. And the worse thing is, it probably would've worked and Gore would've been crushed in 2004.
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