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Antifar
12/19/18 10:54:32 AM
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/south-carolina-gop-could-scrap-2020-primary-to-protect-trump

The South Carolina Republican Party could cancel its marquee presidential nominating contest in 2020 in a move to protect President Trump from any primary challengers.

Drew McKissick, chairman of the South Carolina GOP, said he doesnt anticipate Trump would face a primary challenge and emphasized that the state party executive committee hasnt held any formal discussions about the contest, dubbed first in the South and usually third on the presidential nominating calendar. But McKissick would pointedly not rule out canceling the primary, indicating that that would be his preference.

We have complete autonomy and flexibility in either direction, McKissick told the Washington Examiner on Tuesday. Considering the fact that the entire party supports the president, well end up doing whats in the presidents best interest.

As Trumps re-election campaign ramps up, one component of the effort is preparing for possible primary challenges. The president is solid with Republican voters and would almost certainly defeat any intraparty opposition. But incumbent presidents who faced primaries are in greater peril in the general election, a fact not lost on the Trump campaign and the GOP more broadly.

To minimize potential political hurdles for Trump, some state parties could move to scrap their 2020 presidential primaries. Already a long shot, the unavailability of one or more high profile primary contests could further hamstring the odds of any Republican who dares to run against Trump in 2020. There is precedent for this strategy, even when less uncertainty has swirled around the incumbent president.

In 1992, the Iowa GOP didnt issue a presidential ballot during its caucus, to save President George H.W. Bush from being embarrassed by Pat Buchanan Bush won the New Hampshire primary, although Buchanan still did better than Bush had hoped. In 2004, when President George W. Bush was running for re-election, the South Carolina GOP skipped its presidential primary.

Luke Byars, a veteran Republican operative in South Carolina and the executive director of the state party in 2004, said that there were some complaints but that the point was to further Bushs re-election and avoid unnecessary distractions.

We did not want to have a primary, Byars said. We had a meeting of executive committee, passed a resolution endorsing the president for re-election and said there would no Republican primary.

More than a few state GOP affiliates could make a similar call in this election cycle.

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Bloodychess
12/19/18 10:55:28 AM
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Democracy in action
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Doom_Art
12/19/18 10:55:43 AM
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It's Trump's Party now
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DaveTheUseless
12/19/18 10:56:06 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77316535

it's kool tho
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averagejoel
12/19/18 10:56:31 AM
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undermining the idea of democracy to own the libs
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Anteaterking
12/19/18 10:56:32 AM
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I feel like in the situation where they would need to do that, it wouldn't end well for them.
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Alphamon
12/19/18 10:56:32 AM
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there goes nikki haleys chances bill kristol lol
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Antifar
12/19/18 10:57:19 AM
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DaveTheUseless posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77316535

it's kool tho

I spent too much time copy/pasting lol
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VectorChaos
12/19/18 10:58:18 AM
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Taking a page from the Democrat strategy last election and just making someone The Anointed One already

It's a bold strategy Cotton
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eston
12/19/18 10:58:18 AM
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This is really disturbing. It's no longer about party to them, it's about one specific individual. That type of thinking is very dangerous
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Bloodychess
12/19/18 10:59:45 AM
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VectorChaos posted...
Taking a page from the Democrat strategy last election and just making someone The Anointed One already

It's a bold strategy Cotton


DNC was a smidge more subtle about their rigging
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Doom_Art
12/19/18 11:00:07 AM
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eston posted...
This is really disturbing. It's no longer about party to them, it's about one specific individual. That type of thinking is very dangerous

I'm interested in that they seem to be doubling down on him personally after the losses in the midterms.

Kinda the opposite direction I expected the party to go in at this point.

I'm going to be very curious to see what the party looks like after Trump
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DarkRoast
12/19/18 11:00:59 AM
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It's cool when one of your candidates funds your primaries, though.
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darkjedilink
12/19/18 11:02:03 AM
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averagejoel posted...
undermining the idea of democracy to own the libs

It's no different than 2016's DNC undermining Bernie.

Primary elections are organized and ran by the parties themselves. There's nothing illegal about either.
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Doom_Art
12/19/18 11:02:35 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
It's no different than 2016's DBC undermining Bernie.

Ehhhhhh
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darkjedilink
12/19/18 11:03:02 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
eston posted...
This is really disturbing. It's no longer about party to them, it's about one specific individual. That type of thinking is very dangerous

I'm interested in that they seem to be doubling down on him personally after the losses in the midterms.

Kinda the opposite direction I expected the party to go in at this point.

I'm going to be very curious to see what the party looks like after Trump

Didn't all GOP candidates he campaigned for win? With maybe one exception?
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A_Good_Boy
12/19/18 11:03:07 AM
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The GOP does plan on existing past the next 2 years, doesn't it? The doubling down on Trumpism just can't be any good for the long term outlook for this party. Surely they know that they can reach out and cater to more than just evangelicals and racists, don't they?
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DarkRoast
12/19/18 11:04:07 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
It's no different than 2016's DBC undermining Bernie.

Ehhhhhh


Come on, DA. I know you hate Republicans but Hilldog's campaign controlling the primary funds was the most obvious conflict of interest.
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Ambience
12/19/18 11:04:12 AM
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Here's darkjedi "totally not a Trumpanzee, but I hate black people" link to slurp for Trump's sake
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Tmaster148
12/19/18 11:04:21 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
The GOP does plan on existing past the next 2 years, doesn't it? The doubling down on Trumpism just can't be any good for the long term outlook for this party. Surely they know that they can reach out and cater to more than just evangelicals and racists, don't they?


Time and time again has shown that Republicans have no standards as long as you carry an R.
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BLAKUboy
12/19/18 11:04:45 AM
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Considering the fact that the entire party supports the president

If that were true, there'd be no reason to not hold the primary.
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Antifar
12/19/18 11:05:18 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
It's cool when one of your candidates funds your primaries, though.

That was bad too! Thankfully I'm not a Democrat.
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A_Good_Boy
12/19/18 11:06:56 AM
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Antifar posted...
DarkRoast posted...
It's cool when one of your candidates funds your primaries, though.

That was bad too! Thankfully I'm not a Democrat.

Also kinda different. Democrats were on the verge of bankruptcy and needed that Clinton cash. The same isn't true for Republicans. Their donor base ensures that they're always rolling in dough.
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uwnim
12/19/18 11:07:18 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
eston posted...
This is really disturbing. It's no longer about party to them, it's about one specific individual. That type of thinking is very dangerous

I'm interested in that they seem to be doubling down on him personally after the losses in the midterms.

Kinda the opposite direction I expected the party to go in at this point.

I'm going to be very curious to see what the party looks like after Trump

The issue is that as president, he represents the entire republican party and so going against him would be going against the party. If there'd be a significant primary challenge, then they believe the party would look weak.
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davyheinz
12/19/18 11:08:08 AM
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Thats some bullshit. Id be pretty fucking mad if that affected me.
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Doom_Art
12/19/18 11:08:41 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Didn't all GOP candidates he campaigned for win? With maybe one exception?

And they lost the House and several governorships.

If that's what Trump's brilliant campaigning can muster when he's not running against Hillary, it's rather unimpressive

DarkRoast posted...
Come on, DA. I know you hate Republicans but Hilldog's campaign controlling the primary funds was the most obvious conflict of interest.

Yeah that's a conflict of interest but it's hardly on the same level as just canceling a fucking primary lol
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darkjedilink
12/19/18 11:08:45 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
It's no different than 2016's DBC undermining Bernie.

Ehhhhhh

Come on, DA. I know you hate Republicans but Hilldog's campaign controlling the primary funds was the most obvious conflict of interest.

This.
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darkjedilink
12/19/18 11:09:18 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Didn't all GOP candidates he campaigned for win? With maybe one exception?

And they lost the House and several governorships.

If that's what Trump's brilliant campaigning can muster when he's not running against Hillary, it's rather unimpressive

DarkRoast posted...
Come on, DA. I know you hate Republicans but Hilldog's campaign controlling the primary funds was the most obvious conflict of interest.

Yeah that's a conflict of interest but it's hardly on the same level as just canceling a fucking primary lol

It's actually worse, since the parties control their own primaries.
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darkjedilink
12/19/18 11:10:32 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Didn't all GOP candidates he campaigned for win? With maybe one exception?

And they lost the House and several governorships.

If that's what Trump's brilliant campaigning can muster when he's not running against Hillary, it's rather unimpressive

They lost less than expected, and way less than the historic gains of 2016.
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VipaGTS
12/19/18 11:10:49 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
undermining the idea of democracy to own the libs

It's no different than 2016's DNC undermining Bernie.

Primary elections are organized and ran by the parties themselves. There's nothing illegal about either.


So I never want to see you bitch about or laugh about the DNC rigging it like you have in the past, again. Since you now seem to be ok with it..
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Anteaterking
12/19/18 11:10:53 AM
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Doom_Art
12/19/18 11:11:27 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
They lost less than expected

They lost about what was expected, maybe slightly more lol

darkjedilink posted...
less than the historic gains of 2016.

wat
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Ambience
12/19/18 11:12:11 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
way less than the historic gains of 2016.

The fuck are you talking about?
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UnholyMudcrab
12/19/18 11:14:02 AM
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BLAKUboy
12/19/18 11:14:57 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Please stop feeding DJL

Like, he's not even subtle.
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The Great Muta 22
12/19/18 11:18:49 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Doom_Art posted...
eston posted...
This is really disturbing. It's no longer about party to them, it's about one specific individual. That type of thinking is very dangerous

I'm interested in that they seem to be doubling down on him personally after the losses in the midterms.

Kinda the opposite direction I expected the party to go in at this point.

I'm going to be very curious to see what the party looks like after Trump

Didn't all GOP candidates he campaigned for win? With maybe one exception?


No? Maybe in the Senate but that absolutely wasn't the case in the House or Gubernatorial races. I mean, I distinctly know he and his entire fucking family and other major GOP names campaigned for my former House rep in upstate NY and she lost.
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Bio1590
12/19/18 11:19:14 AM
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Imagine bringing up the DNC/Clinton in 2016 to "meh" this away as if the DNC fucking over Bernie wasn't some huge rallying cry/attack point during the election lmao.
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The Great Muta 22
12/19/18 11:22:02 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
They lost less than expected, and way less than the historic gains of 2016.


1. No, they didn't. They won one more Senate seat than most pollsters predicted and lost about a dozen more House seats than predicted.

2. What "Historic gains of 2016" are you talking about? The Democrats won 2 seats in the Senate, 6 seats in the House, and Republicans won the Presidency and 2 Governor seats. Stop making shit up to fit the narrative you want to be true.
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A_Good_Boy
12/19/18 11:22:25 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Imagine bringing up the DNC/Clinton in 2016 to "meh" this away as if the DNC fucking over Bernie wasn't some huge rallying cry/attack point during the election lmao.

Hell, DJL wouldn't shut up about it then. Now it's just a meh.

Must be pretty awesome having no principles to stand behind. All you gotta do is see who has an R or D next to their name and your opinion is already decided.
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DarkRoast
12/19/18 11:22:34 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Didn't all GOP candidates he campaigned for win? With maybe one exception?

And they lost the House and several governorships.

If that's what Trump's brilliant campaigning can muster when he's not running against Hillary, it's rather unimpressive

DarkRoast posted...
Come on, DA. I know you hate Republicans but Hilldog's campaign controlling the primary funds was the most obvious conflict of interest.

Yeah that's a conflict of interest but it's hardly on the same level as just canceling a fucking primary lol


I'd argue it's worse because it means you're potentially holding a sham vote.
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A_Good_Boy
12/19/18 11:23:40 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Didn't all GOP candidates he campaigned for win? With maybe one exception?

And they lost the House and several governorships.

If that's what Trump's brilliant campaigning can muster when he's not running against Hillary, it's rather unimpressive

DarkRoast posted...
Come on, DA. I know you hate Republicans but Hilldog's campaign controlling the primary funds was the most obvious conflict of interest.

Yeah that's a conflict of interest but it's hardly on the same level as just canceling a fucking primary lol


I'd argue it's worse because it means you're potentially holding a sham vote.

How is a sham vote worse than not having a vote at all?
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Broseph_Stalin
12/19/18 11:24:07 AM
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Oh look it's DJL making a blatantly false claim that took two seconds to refute.

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Bloodychess
12/19/18 11:24:39 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Imagine bringing up the DNC/Clinton in 2016 to "meh" this away as if the DNC fucking over Bernie wasn't some huge rallying cry/attack point during the election lmao.


Be aware that the people who went "meh" to that in 2016 seem to want this to be an attack point now

Unless we're forgetting all those "She would have won anyway" topics
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spudger
12/19/18 11:25:44 AM
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averagejoel posted...
undermining the idea of democracy to own the libs

Pathetic really
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Antifar
12/19/18 11:25:48 AM
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To describe the 2016 primaries as "sham votes" is really to oversell what happened there. Election results weren't changed or altered; the Superdelegate process was just laid on top of it.
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Bio1590
12/19/18 11:26:43 AM
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Anyways I kind of hope they do this just for the sheer potential hilarity of Trump not being able to run.
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Tmaster148
12/19/18 11:27:39 AM
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Bloodychess posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Imagine bringing up the DNC/Clinton in 2016 to "meh" this away as if the DNC fucking over Bernie wasn't some huge rallying cry/attack point during the election lmao.


Be aware that the people who went "meh" to that in 2016 seem to want this to be an attack point now

Unless we're forgetting all those "She would have won anyway" topics


If we are being honest. Bernie wasnt going to win the primary if the super delegates had kept quiet till after the primary. And in the end they changed the super delegates system.

I would say it really isn't as big as a deal people are making it out to be in 2018.
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uwnim
12/19/18 11:27:49 AM
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Wasn't it just heavily skewed in her favor? Like all the delegates not decided by voting were automatically given to her before anything started and media connections were used to push the idea that voting for anyone else in the primaries was a waste of time.
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Libpwner
12/19/18 11:28:23 AM
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averagejoel posted...
undermining the idea of democracy to own the libs


It owns libs, so fair, next.
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Tyranthraxus
12/19/18 11:30:49 AM
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I was told voter suppression is fake news so #MAGA
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