Current Events > Playing Metroid for the first time.

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Should I be using a map? Is this like that crap game Legend of Zelda that is nigh impossible without using something not in the game?

I've just been doing trial and error for the past 2 hours and I'm making progress, but it's starting to be a bit of a slog hitting dead ends. I got a power up I don't even know what it was.
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Don't

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Go zero mission if you can't stand playing it the way we old timers did back in the nes days
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for guys my age this game holds a special place in our heart. for the modern generation unless you are genuinely interested in retro gaming i would probably pass on metroid. pick up super metroid instead.
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Save yourself the frustration and play Zero Mission instead.
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GameGodOfAll posted...

Is this like that crap game Legend of Zelda that is nigh impossible without using something not in the game?

sure is

Metroid is honestly a bad game. I have fun playing LoZ even though there are dumb things that Nintendo tried to use to sell their magazine and hotline.

Metroid on the other hand is atrocious, even with a map. Controls are awkward, dying is one of the biggest pains in gaming, a lot of glitchy stuff, just a bad game. Honestly, even for a game in the 80's, I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole.

But yeah, if you are going to go ahead and beat it, just use a map, game doesn't deserve your full effort.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

for guys my age this game holds a special place in our heart. for the modern generation unless you are genuinely interested in retro gaming i would probably pass on metroid. pick up super metroid instead.

I grew up with an NES, but Metroid's always been one of the classics I just never got to play. I still enjoy retro games a bunch, but stuff like LoZ is just way too time consuming to play straight up. This doesn't seem nearly as bad, but I might resort to a walkthrough if it means enjoying the game more.

__aCEr__ posted...

Save yourself the frustration and play Zero Mission instead.

Thought about it, but I want the raw experience one way or the other. I needs to know.
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GameGodOfAll posted...

this like that crap game Legend of Zelda

Shut your damn mouth >:(

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Is this like that crap game Legend of Zelda that is nigh impossible without using something not in the game?

to what do you refer?
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I beat LoZ as a 6 year old without a guide....

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almost all NES games are total garbage, save like the original SMB
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Delirious_Beard posted...

almost all NES games are total garbage, save like the original SMB

and kirby's adventure, dewd

I played it all the way through about a decade ago. Pain in the ass without creating a map as you go along. And you will hit parts that will require you to look up how to progress. Not quite as bad as Castlevania II and kneeling in front of a wall levels of How the fuck should I know that?, but close.

GameGodOfAll posted...

Is this like that crap game Legend of Zelda that is nigh impossible without using something not in the game?

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I love the Metroid series but the NES original is straight garbage. Go for Zero Mission if you want to experience the original in a way thats actually fun to play
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Alright I'll use a map for starters. Try to avoid a guide.

Does it get better with Metroid II? That'll be next before I get to Super Metroid which I'm assuming will be like the LttP of the series where it gets really good.
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Id say Metroid II is a step backwards, but its to be expected going from NES to Game Boy. Youre very zoomed into the action, and Samus takes up a much larger chunk of the screen (see below). And since you dont have colors to differentiate locations, it can be trickier to recognize where you are.

Its a very good Game Boy game, but not a step forward in the series IMO. Either a parallel step of a backwards step.


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If you don't have a lot of patience and a good stomach for NES game design, you're not going to have fun playing Metroid. You'll have a better experience with Zero Mission.

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I never played Super Metroid until this year simply because I just never could get into Metroid. I have many regrets now. Never heard of Zero Mission though.

The only thing the NES Metroid really has going for it is the atmosphere. It's the only Metroid game where I feel like I'm playing in a genuine alien world. Kraid's Lair is probably the best example of that, with the music being creepy as hell (below) and and the world looking extraterrestrial. Zero Mission butchers that track.

In Zero Mission and Super Metroid, all the stages just look like underground caves, which doesn't evoke the same feeling.

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16-BITTER posted...

I beat it when I was a kid. Drawing your own map isn't that difficult (I found almost all the items save 1-2) and it's not particularly huge of a game anyway.

Delirious_Beard posted...

almost all NES games are total garbage, save like the original SMB

You have to be at least 13 to make an account here.

NES games have their place and role in history, but there's a reason almost no one returns to them

they've aged horribly
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Delirious_Beard posted...

NES games have their place and role in history, but there's a reason almost no one returns to them

they've aged horribly

I don't don't know who you're speaking for, but this is utter bullshit.

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don't quote me, please
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Delirious_Beard posted...

16-BITTER posted...

I beat it when I was a kid. Drawing your own map isn't that difficult (I found almost all the items save 1-2) and it's not particularly huge of a game anyway.

Delirious_Beard posted...

almost all NES games are total garbage, save like the original SMB

You have to be at least 13 to make an account here.

NES games have their place and role in history, but there's a reason almost no one returns to them

they've aged horribly

lmao who is this guy

Delirious_Beard posted...

don't quote me, please

Use the ignore/block list or get over it

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Delirious_Beard posted...

almost all NES games are total garbage, save like the original SMB

Mario is garbage

kunio kun series were the best nes had to offet
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ModLogic posted...

Mario is garbage

kunio kun series were the best nes had to offet

Your opinion is filth.

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16-BITTER posted...

I beat it when I was a kid. Drawing your own map isn't that difficult (I found almost all the items save 1-2) and it's not particularly huge of a game anyway.

Delirious_Beard posted...

almost all NES games are total garbage, save like the original SMB

You have to be at least 13 to make an account here.

You can be fucking 30 and never have touched an NES
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Son, just get yourself a copy of Zero Mission. This is embarrassing.

Plus, once you beat Zero Mission, you unlock the classic version to fill in any of your remaining curiosity.
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Zero Mission is when Samuss butt was at its peak
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if you think LoZ is bad because it needs you to make a map I think NES metroid might literally kill you

that game has some of the worst area layout ddesign I have ever seen and is legitimately not a good game at all
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kirbymuncher posted...

if you think LoZ is bad because it needs you to make a map I think NES metroid might literally kill you

that game has some of the worst area layout ddesign I have ever seen and is legitimately not a good game at all

Super agreement. There are some flaws in design that I think people sweep under the rug of "well, for its time..." when other games found ways to work around these flaws or just not have them in the first place.

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I have a certain hatred for the original Zelda. People go on and on about how great it was and what an impact it made and while it deserves a ton of praise for its influence, the game itself is just not very good at all. The combat's bleh, but fine. I've played much worse from the era. But the real problem is the map and hints. They are atrocious. Not flawed, straight up terrible. The game came with a physical map, but if you didn't have that, you were pretty much fucked. People bragging about beating the game without any help are either liars or wasted hours upon hours on mindless searching. It was the finding the dungeon where you had to burn 1 random bush out of dozens and dozens that broke me. There were clues to make that bush stand out. There are no hints in the game that give you anywhere close to enough info to figure it out. It might as well be dumb luck. I hate it.

There's my mini rant. And a lot of my hate does come from me trying to beat it without a map or a walkthrough at all.
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The original Metroid is one of the worst games I've ever beaten. It's devoid of fun entirely.
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Tbf the original Zelda wasnt meant to be played in a vacuum. There was a meta element that most games today dont indulge.

And on the flip side, Im absolutely terrible at finding secrets in almost any video game, and i found that bush dungeon on accident while I was still looking for Level 2 >_>
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GameGodOfAll posted...

There were clues to make that bush stand out. There are no hints in the game that give you anywhere close to enough info to figure it out.

I mean... I'm pretty sure I found that one just by burning it because it was in the way and I hoped I could walk past it <_<

unless you're talking about second quest
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Wow is Metroid II better across the board. Still have to use an online map, but I can make a good amount of progress on my own with a little exploration. Power ups are at least labeled even though they don't teach you how to use them, so I had to look up what to do for the spider ball, but it's something. On top of that this is the best looking Game Boy game I've ever seen by a country mile.
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The Admiral posted...

In Zero Mission and Super Metroid, all the stages just look like underground caves, which doesn't evoke the same feeling.

I'd say ZM does a great job of updating the game's look while still having a similar atmosphere

the bubbly platforms in Norfair
the white brick walls in Kraid's lair
the pipes in Tourian

it's all there
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I was able the beat the original Zelda when I was 7

Quit whining
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AlisLandale posted...

Tbf the original Zelda wasnt meant to be played in a vacuum. There was a meta element that most games today dont indulge.

also this, most if not all older games required you to have friends to share tips and secrets with

the internet has made that largely irrelevant
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Remember when games made you draw your own maps?

I really miss that.
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