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Renraku_San 09/25/19 3:20:34 PM #51: |
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...*just gets fired* Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 09/25/19 3:21:34 PM #52: |
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...*just gets fired* Thats a pretty big assumption. And that is probably why people dont like you... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 09/25/19 3:29:32 PM #53: |
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...*just gets fired* Got it. What field are you also a fake doctor in? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BillyPones 09/25/19 4:05:16 PM #54: |
You should no doubt report them. They doing shady shit like paying people under the table it's not like it's gonna get any better. The obviously aren't following any type of labor laws...so call them out on it.
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TigerTycoon 09/25/19 4:08:29 PM #55: |
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.
The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government. Which is why of course, it's technically illegal. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 09/25/19 4:23:42 PM #56: |
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that. The business can benefit from it. Because the employees basically have no rights. Bad shot can happen. Money can be basically taken from them, and they cant report it. The business has much more control over employees in that situation... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 09/25/19 4:31:25 PM #57: |
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees They may also not have proper coverage for workman's comp They also don't get any benefits Employees get fucked over getting paid like that. --- Not a doctor. Shh! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bugmeat 09/25/19 4:35:31 PM #58: |
LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that. The business also benefits by not having to pay their share of benefits. All that stuff like health insurance, workers comp insurance, unemployment, sick time, vacation, etc. They can save a lot of money by paying under the table. --- John Mellencamp said it best "Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 09/25/19 4:36:13 PM #59: |
LinkPizza posted...
The business can benefit from it. Because the employees basically have no rights. Bad shot can happen. Money can be basically taken from them, and they cant report it. The business has much more control over employees in that situation... They could also pay them less than minimum wage and get away with it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mad_Max 09/25/19 4:36:50 PM #60: |
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...*just gets fired* lmao --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 09/25/19 4:38:13 PM #61: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
TigerTycoon posted...The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees You can get paid under the table, then claim you have low income and get benefits from the government. The pay check wouldn't be $0 though, it would a small amount of money, so in the government records you're still employed. Of course yes, you can take a job that under pays while paying under the table and your boss treats you like crap, but that's also on you. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 09/25/19 4:41:24 PM #62: |
TigerTycoon posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...TigerTycoon posted...The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees And youre risking a lot. You can get caught and go to jail... Not to mention having to pay all that money back. But they company itself still benefits. Multiple people have stated how... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 09/25/19 4:43:41 PM #63: |
LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...Doctor Foxx posted...TigerTycoon posted...The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees Paying under the table is illegal in the first place regardless of how it's done and a risk for everyone involved. I'm just saying it's not always 100% the employer screwing over the employee as others are suggesting. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 09/25/19 4:45:16 PM #64: |
TigerTycoon posted...
LinkPizza posted...TigerTycoon posted...Doctor Foxx posted...TigerTycoon posted...The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees It kind of is. Maybe some place arent screwing them over. But you said businesses dont benefit from it which is false... It seems like they always do... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 09/25/19 4:54:22 PM #65: |
LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...LinkPizza posted...TigerTycoon posted...Doctor Foxx posted...TigerTycoon posted...The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees How is the business massively benefiting over the employee in the scenario I mention where the employee gets a small paycheck plus money under the table, and thus meets the requirements for government benefits as a result while actually having too high of an income for it? While technically everyone involved is breaking the law, unless you are an illegal immigrant, or are getting a huge amount of under the table money, the government likely won't go after every single employee to get the money back, they'll just go after the business. And yes, like I said you can just have a terrible boss that under pays you and mistreats you, but this can happen even when all employment is legal. The video game industry does this every day as they hire tons of developers as "freelancers" so they don't have to give them the treatment of long term employees. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 09/25/19 5:12:00 PM #66: |
TigerTycoon posted...
How is the business massively benefiting over the employee in the scenario I mention where the employee gets a small paycheck plus money under the table, and thus meets the requirements for government benefits as a result while actually having too high of an income for it? I dont know where you saw massively. But they save money by not having to pay for stuff like insurance and stuff. Nor are they required to give stuff like PTO, sick time, vacation. And a bunch of other stuff they save by not having legal employees. Many people have pointed out stuff. They can also cheap out the employees. Not all jobs offer that stuff. But some jobs like to offer some of that stuff. But the company saves money by not having to pay for stuff like that. And the employees cant really fight for right, so... And while they can happen with legal employment, its less likely because you can fight for you rights. And stuff like that... As for the employees, the government might go after al the ones they can. They dont like losing money. Also, those employees also get cheated out of employment they can mentioned. Like for job experience. Theyll have employment gaps. Which can make getting a job hard... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 09/25/19 5:19:26 PM #67: |
TigerTycoon posted...
Paying under the table is illegal in the first place regardless of how it's done and a risk for everyone involved. I'm just saying it's not always 100% the employer screwing over the employee as others are suggesting.It denies employees fundamental rights given by a legally paid job 100% of the time Ergo It screws employees and lowers standards for workplaces If company A offers X wage legally, and company B offers X wage illegally, which party benefits? The employee of company B loses by paying out of pocket for additional expenses and forfeiting benefits from the employer as well as future government benefits that rely on legally reported income. The only beneficiary in that interaction (vs legal employment) is company B, not paying for employee benefits or their share of the taxes of having an employee. --- Not a doctor. Shh! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 09/25/19 5:23:17 PM #68: |
revenge feels good. I say go for it
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InsaneGamer137 09/25/19 5:47:01 PM #69: |
Fuck the fucking fuckers
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Renraku_San 09/26/19 3:32:08 PM #70: |
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...*just gets fired* Not fake, but "expired" doctor. My license has since expired and I no longer practice. I am doing immigration law now. Previously was a dermatologist. And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 09/26/19 3:35:22 PM #71: |
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...*just gets fired* Nice. While were at it, what subject were you a fake teacher in again? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Renraku_San 09/26/19 3:38:14 PM #72: |
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...Cacciato posted...Renraku_San posted...*just gets fired* I taught many years ago in a community college, history. Do you want me to forward my entire fucking resume? WTF. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Renraku_San 09/26/19 3:38:55 PM #73: |
Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths.
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Mead 09/26/19 3:39:32 PM #74: |
Renraku_San posted...
Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths. Youre also a teenager and a doctor and a lawyer --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 09/26/19 3:40:25 PM #75: |
Renraku_San posted...
Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths. Nice. Youre really fake accomplished. Also not sure fake 63 year olds should say bro. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 09/26/19 4:00:56 PM #76: |
Renraku_San posted...
Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths. Did you walk on the moon with Neil Armstrong too? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bugmeat 09/26/19 4:01:56 PM #77: |
Renraku_San posted...
And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures. But what about the weird spot in my groin? I can shave for the picture if you feel that would help. --- "Genetics is fascinating. For example, if I mated with this chicken, I wonder if any of you would tell." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 09/26/19 4:12:22 PM #78: |
Bugmeat posted...
Renraku_San posted...And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures. He said he needs both pre and post shaved pictures --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Renraku_San 10/04/19 1:42:29 PM #79: |
Not sure how the mods are allowing this ebullying to continue.
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Cacciato 10/04/19 1:52:35 PM #80: |
Shut the fuck up.
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LinkPizza 10/04/19 1:56:28 PM #81: |
Renraku_San posted...
Not sure how the mods are allowing this ebullying to continue. I think its called a cyber bullying. But is anyone doing that to you? Also, the mods dont Really care about anything, tbh... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Renraku_San 10/04/19 4:33:11 PM #82: |
Can I get a fucking mod in here please?
jesus --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/04/19 4:33:55 PM #83: |
Renraku_San posted...
Can I get a fucking mod in here please? No one here likes you --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 10/04/19 4:39:31 PM #84: |
Mead posted...
Renraku_San posted...Can I get a fucking mod in here please? Not sure why he got all butthurt and bumped it after over a week. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Renraku_San 10/04/19 4:47:00 PM #85: |
Can a fucking mod do their job? Look at this - this is a toxic environment that shouldn't be allowed. Complete bullying and abuse.
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Mead 10/04/19 4:48:09 PM #86: |
Renraku_San posted...
Can a fucking mod do their job? Look at this - this is a toxic environment that shouldn't be allowed. Complete bullying and abuse. Try over on a different board only next time dont act absolutely terrible --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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