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Renraku_San
09/25/19 3:20:34 PM
#51:


Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
*just gets fired*
*comes to gfaqs for legal advice*

Winning.

But you said you were a lawyer remember


Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law.
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LinkPizza
09/25/19 3:21:34 PM
#52:


Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
*just gets fired*
*comes to gfaqs for legal advice*

Winning.

But you said you were a lawyer remember


Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law.

Thats a pretty big assumption. And that is probably why people dont like you...
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Cacciato
09/25/19 3:29:32 PM
#53:


Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
*just gets fired*
*comes to gfaqs for legal advice*

Winning.

But you said you were a lawyer remember


Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law.

Got it. What field are you also a fake doctor in?
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BillyPones
09/25/19 4:05:16 PM
#54:


You should no doubt report them. They doing shady shit like paying people under the table it's not like it's gonna get any better. The obviously aren't following any type of labor laws...so call them out on it.
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TigerTycoon
09/25/19 4:08:29 PM
#55:


The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.
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LinkPizza
09/25/19 4:23:42 PM
#56:


TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.

The business can benefit from it. Because the employees basically have no rights. Bad shot can happen. Money can be basically taken from them, and they cant report it. The business has much more control over employees in that situation...
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Doctor Foxx
09/25/19 4:31:25 PM
#57:


TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.
The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees

They may also not have proper coverage for workman's comp

They also don't get any benefits

Employees get fucked over getting paid like that.

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Bugmeat
09/25/19 4:35:31 PM
#58:


LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.

The business can benefit from it. Because the employees basically have no rights. Bad shot can happen. Money can be basically taken from them, and they cant report it. The business has much more control over employees in that situation...

The business also benefits by not having to pay their share of benefits. All that stuff like health insurance, workers comp insurance, unemployment, sick time, vacation, etc. They can save a lot of money by paying under the table.


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Revelation34
09/25/19 4:36:13 PM
#59:


LinkPizza posted...
The business can benefit from it. Because the employees basically have no rights. Bad shot can happen. Money can be basically taken from them, and they cant report it. The business has much more control over employees in that situation...


They could also pay them less than minimum wage and get away with it.
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Mad_Max
09/25/19 4:36:50 PM
#60:


Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
*just gets fired*
*comes to gfaqs for legal advice*

Winning.

But you said you were a lawyer remember


Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law.

Got it. What field are you also a fake doctor in?

lmao
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TigerTycoon
09/25/19 4:38:13 PM
#61:


Doctor Foxx posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.
The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees

They may also not have proper coverage for workman's comp

They also don't get any benefits

Employees get fucked over getting paid like that.

You can get paid under the table, then claim you have low income and get benefits from the government. The pay check wouldn't be $0 though, it would a small amount of money, so in the government records you're still employed.

Of course yes, you can take a job that under pays while paying under the table and your boss treats you like crap, but that's also on you.
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LinkPizza
09/25/19 4:41:24 PM
#62:


TigerTycoon posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.
The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees

They may also not have proper coverage for workman's comp

They also don't get any benefits

Employees get fucked over getting paid like that.

You can get paid under the table, then claim you have low income and get benefits from the government. The pay check wouldn't be $0 though, it would a small amount of money, so in the government records you're still employed.

Of course yes, you can take a job that under pays while playing under the table and your boss treats you like crap, but that's also on you.

And youre risking a lot. You can get caught and go to jail... Not to mention having to pay all that money back. But they company itself still benefits. Multiple people have stated how...
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TigerTycoon
09/25/19 4:43:41 PM
#63:


LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.
The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees

They may also not have proper coverage for workman's comp

They also don't get any benefits

Employees get fucked over getting paid like that.

You can get paid under the table, then claim you have low income and get benefits from the government. The pay check wouldn't be $0 though, it would a small amount of money, so in the government records you're still employed.

Of course yes, you can take a job that under pays while playing under the table and your boss treats you like crap, but that's also on you.

And youre risking a lot. You can get caught and go to jail... Not to mention having to pay all that money back. But they company itself still benefits. Multiple people have stated how...

Paying under the table is illegal in the first place regardless of how it's done and a risk for everyone involved. I'm just saying it's not always 100% the employer screwing over the employee as others are suggesting.
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LinkPizza
09/25/19 4:45:16 PM
#64:


TigerTycoon posted...
LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.
The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees

They may also not have proper coverage for workman's comp

They also don't get any benefits

Employees get fucked over getting paid like that.

You can get paid under the table, then claim you have low income and get benefits from the government. The pay check wouldn't be $0 though, it would a small amount of money, so in the government records you're still employed.

Of course yes, you can take a job that under pays while playing under the table and your boss treats you like crap, but that's also on you.

And youre risking a lot. You can get caught and go to jail... Not to mention having to pay all that money back. But they company itself still benefits. Multiple people have stated how...

Paying under the table is illegal in the first place regardless of how it's done. I'm just saying it's not always 100% the employer screwing over the employee as others are suggesting.

It kind of is. Maybe some place arent screwing them over. But you said businesses dont benefit from it which is false... It seems like they always do...
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TigerTycoon
09/25/19 4:54:22 PM
#65:


LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
The business doesn't benefit from paying people under the table though, the employees benefit from that.

The only party getting screwed over from people getting paid under the table is actually the government.

Which is why of course, it's technically illegal.
The employees can't claim that income for employment benefits or social insurance. That screws the employees

They may also not have proper coverage for workman's comp

They also don't get any benefits

Employees get fucked over getting paid like that.

You can get paid under the table, then claim you have low income and get benefits from the government. The pay check wouldn't be $0 though, it would a small amount of money, so in the government records you're still employed.

Of course yes, you can take a job that under pays while playing under the table and your boss treats you like crap, but that's also on you.

And youre risking a lot. You can get caught and go to jail... Not to mention having to pay all that money back. But they company itself still benefits. Multiple people have stated how...

Paying under the table is illegal in the first place regardless of how it's done. I'm just saying it's not always 100% the employer screwing over the employee as others are suggesting.

It kind of is. Maybe some place arent screwing them over. But you said businesses dont benefit from it which is false... It seems like they always do...

How is the business massively benefiting over the employee in the scenario I mention where the employee gets a small paycheck plus money under the table, and thus meets the requirements for government benefits as a result while actually having too high of an income for it?

While technically everyone involved is breaking the law, unless you are an illegal immigrant, or are getting a huge amount of under the table money, the government likely won't go after every single employee to get the money back, they'll just go after the business.

And yes, like I said you can just have a terrible boss that under pays you and mistreats you, but this can happen even when all employment is legal.

The video game industry does this every day as they hire tons of developers as "freelancers" so they don't have to give them the treatment of long term employees.
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LinkPizza
09/25/19 5:12:00 PM
#66:


TigerTycoon posted...
How is the business massively benefiting over the employee in the scenario I mention where the employee gets a small paycheck plus money under the table, and thus meets the requirements for government benefits as a result while actually having too high of an income for it?

While technically everyone involved is breaking the law, unless you are an illegal immigrant, or are getting a huge amount of under the table money, the government likely won't go after every single employee to get the money back, they'll just go after the business.

And yes, like I said you can just have a terrible boss that under pays you and mistreats you, but this can happen even when all employment is legal.

The video game industry does this every day as they hire tons of developers as "freelancers" so they don't have to give them the treatment of long term employees.

I dont know where you saw massively. But they save money by not having to pay for stuff like insurance and stuff. Nor are they required to give stuff like PTO, sick time, vacation. And a bunch of other stuff they save by not having legal employees. Many people have pointed out stuff. They can also cheap out the employees. Not all jobs offer that stuff. But some jobs like to offer some of that stuff. But the company saves money by not having to pay for stuff like that. And the employees cant really fight for right, so...

And while they can happen with legal employment, its less likely because you can fight for you rights. And stuff like that...

As for the employees, the government might go after al the ones they can. They dont like losing money. Also, those employees also get cheated out of employment they can mentioned. Like for job experience. Theyll have employment gaps. Which can make getting a job hard...
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Doctor Foxx
09/25/19 5:19:26 PM
#67:


TigerTycoon posted...
Paying under the table is illegal in the first place regardless of how it's done and a risk for everyone involved. I'm just saying it's not always 100% the employer screwing over the employee as others are suggesting.
It denies employees fundamental rights given by a legally paid job 100% of the time

Ergo

It screws employees and lowers standards for workplaces

If company A offers X wage legally, and company B offers X wage illegally, which party benefits?

The employee of company B loses by paying out of pocket for additional expenses and forfeiting benefits from the employer as well as future government benefits that rely on legally reported income. The only beneficiary in that interaction (vs legal employment) is company B, not paying for employee benefits or their share of the taxes of having an employee.

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Zikten
09/25/19 5:23:17 PM
#68:


revenge feels good. I say go for it
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InsaneGamer137
09/25/19 5:47:01 PM
#69:


Fuck the fucking fuckers
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Renraku_San
09/26/19 3:32:08 PM
#70:


Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
*just gets fired*
*comes to gfaqs for legal advice*

Winning.

But you said you were a lawyer remember


Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law.

Got it. What field are you also a fake doctor in?


Not fake, but "expired" doctor. My license has since expired and I no longer practice. I am doing immigration law now. Previously was a dermatologist. And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures.
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Cacciato
09/26/19 3:35:22 PM
#71:


Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
*just gets fired*
*comes to gfaqs for legal advice*

Winning.

But you said you were a lawyer remember


Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law.

Got it. What field are you also a fake doctor in?


Not fake, but "expired" doctor. My license has since expired and I no longer practice. I am doing immigration law now. Previously was a dermatologist. And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures.

Nice. While were at it, what subject were you a fake teacher in again?
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Renraku_San
09/26/19 3:38:14 PM
#72:


Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Cacciato posted...
Renraku_San posted...
*just gets fired*
*comes to gfaqs for legal advice*

Winning.

But you said you were a lawyer remember


Immigration lawyer - not "i was lazy and got fired and now i'm mad at my employer wahhhh wahhh wahhh" employment law.

Got it. What field are you also a fake doctor in?


Not fake, but "expired" doctor. My license has since expired and I no longer practice. I am doing immigration law now. Previously was a dermatologist. And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures.

Nice. While were at it, what subject were you a fake teacher in again?


I taught many years ago in a community college, history. Do you want me to forward my entire fucking resume? WTF.
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Renraku_San
09/26/19 3:38:55 PM
#73:


Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths.
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Mead
09/26/19 3:39:32 PM
#74:


Renraku_San posted...
Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths.


Youre also a teenager and a doctor and a lawyer
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Cacciato
09/26/19 3:40:25 PM
#75:


Renraku_San posted...
Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths.

Nice. Youre really fake accomplished. Also not sure fake 63 year olds should say bro.
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Revelation34
09/26/19 4:00:56 PM
#76:


Renraku_San posted...
Bro I'm 63 years old, I'm not sure why you're having trouble believing I've had 3 different career paths.


Did you walk on the moon with Neil Armstrong too?
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Bugmeat
09/26/19 4:01:56 PM
#77:


Renraku_San posted...
And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures.

But what about the weird spot in my groin? I can shave for the picture if you feel that would help.


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Mead
09/26/19 4:12:22 PM
#78:


Bugmeat posted...
Renraku_San posted...
And no - I don't care about the bump/mole/blemish on your face/hand/leg nor do I want any pictures.

But what about the weird spot in my groin? I can shave for the picture if you feel that would help.



He said he needs both pre and post shaved pictures
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Renraku_San
10/04/19 1:42:29 PM
#79:


Not sure how the mods are allowing this ebullying to continue.
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Cacciato
10/04/19 1:52:35 PM
#80:


Shut the fuck up.
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LinkPizza
10/04/19 1:56:28 PM
#81:


Renraku_San posted...
Not sure how the mods are allowing this ebullying to continue.

I think its called a cyber bullying. But is anyone doing that to you? Also, the mods dont Really care about anything, tbh...
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Renraku_San
10/04/19 4:33:11 PM
#82:


Can I get a fucking mod in here please?

jesus
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Mead
10/04/19 4:33:55 PM
#83:


Renraku_San posted...
Can I get a fucking mod in here please?

jesus


No one here likes you
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Cacciato
10/04/19 4:39:31 PM
#84:


Mead posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Can I get a fucking mod in here please?

jesus


No one here likes you

Not sure why he got all butthurt and bumped it after over a week.
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Renraku_San
10/04/19 4:47:00 PM
#85:


Can a fucking mod do their job? Look at this - this is a toxic environment that shouldn't be allowed. Complete bullying and abuse.
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Mead
10/04/19 4:48:09 PM
#86:


Renraku_San posted...
Can a fucking mod do their job? Look at this - this is a toxic environment that shouldn't be allowed. Complete bullying and abuse.


Try over on a different board only next time dont act absolutely terrible
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